Need Help with Differentiation












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I came across below expression where I needed to find the value of K where the maximum value will occur for the below function



$P=binom{k}{2} times 2^{n-k}$



I re-wrote it as



$P=2^{n-1} times {frac{k^2-k}{2^k}}$



differentiating it with respect to k



$frac{dP}{dk}=2^{n-1} times Biggl( frac{(2k-1)-(k^2-k)(log2^k)}{2^k} Biggr)$



My query is, can I keep base of log in the above expression to 2?



I know I need to equate the above value to 0, to find the critical point.



Please help me further I am stuck here.










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    The derivative of $2^k$ is $2^klog 2$.
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    – Gaffney
    Jan 11 at 7:09










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    Yeah in the above shown step I have removed $2^k$ from both numerator and denominator.
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    – user3767495
    Jan 11 at 7:10










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    Why not take logs and use $$log(m!) = sum_{j=1}^{m} log(j)$$ It should make life easier.
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    – Mattos
    Jan 11 at 7:12












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    You will get $log2$, not $log2^k$, in the numerator. On equating to $0$, you will get a quadratic in $k$, which can be solved easily, though integral solutions are not guaranteed
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    – Shubham Johri
    Jan 11 at 7:54


















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$begingroup$


I came across below expression where I needed to find the value of K where the maximum value will occur for the below function



$P=binom{k}{2} times 2^{n-k}$



I re-wrote it as



$P=2^{n-1} times {frac{k^2-k}{2^k}}$



differentiating it with respect to k



$frac{dP}{dk}=2^{n-1} times Biggl( frac{(2k-1)-(k^2-k)(log2^k)}{2^k} Biggr)$



My query is, can I keep base of log in the above expression to 2?



I know I need to equate the above value to 0, to find the critical point.



Please help me further I am stuck here.










share|cite|improve this question









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    $begingroup$
    The derivative of $2^k$ is $2^klog 2$.
    $endgroup$
    – Gaffney
    Jan 11 at 7:09










  • $begingroup$
    Yeah in the above shown step I have removed $2^k$ from both numerator and denominator.
    $endgroup$
    – user3767495
    Jan 11 at 7:10










  • $begingroup$
    Why not take logs and use $$log(m!) = sum_{j=1}^{m} log(j)$$ It should make life easier.
    $endgroup$
    – Mattos
    Jan 11 at 7:12












  • $begingroup$
    You will get $log2$, not $log2^k$, in the numerator. On equating to $0$, you will get a quadratic in $k$, which can be solved easily, though integral solutions are not guaranteed
    $endgroup$
    – Shubham Johri
    Jan 11 at 7:54
















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$begingroup$


I came across below expression where I needed to find the value of K where the maximum value will occur for the below function



$P=binom{k}{2} times 2^{n-k}$



I re-wrote it as



$P=2^{n-1} times {frac{k^2-k}{2^k}}$



differentiating it with respect to k



$frac{dP}{dk}=2^{n-1} times Biggl( frac{(2k-1)-(k^2-k)(log2^k)}{2^k} Biggr)$



My query is, can I keep base of log in the above expression to 2?



I know I need to equate the above value to 0, to find the critical point.



Please help me further I am stuck here.










share|cite|improve this question









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I came across below expression where I needed to find the value of K where the maximum value will occur for the below function



$P=binom{k}{2} times 2^{n-k}$



I re-wrote it as



$P=2^{n-1} times {frac{k^2-k}{2^k}}$



differentiating it with respect to k



$frac{dP}{dk}=2^{n-1} times Biggl( frac{(2k-1)-(k^2-k)(log2^k)}{2^k} Biggr)$



My query is, can I keep base of log in the above expression to 2?



I know I need to equate the above value to 0, to find the critical point.



Please help me further I am stuck here.







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    $begingroup$
    The derivative of $2^k$ is $2^klog 2$.
    $endgroup$
    – Gaffney
    Jan 11 at 7:09










  • $begingroup$
    Yeah in the above shown step I have removed $2^k$ from both numerator and denominator.
    $endgroup$
    – user3767495
    Jan 11 at 7:10










  • $begingroup$
    Why not take logs and use $$log(m!) = sum_{j=1}^{m} log(j)$$ It should make life easier.
    $endgroup$
    – Mattos
    Jan 11 at 7:12












  • $begingroup$
    You will get $log2$, not $log2^k$, in the numerator. On equating to $0$, you will get a quadratic in $k$, which can be solved easily, though integral solutions are not guaranteed
    $endgroup$
    – Shubham Johri
    Jan 11 at 7:54
















  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The derivative of $2^k$ is $2^klog 2$.
    $endgroup$
    – Gaffney
    Jan 11 at 7:09










  • $begingroup$
    Yeah in the above shown step I have removed $2^k$ from both numerator and denominator.
    $endgroup$
    – user3767495
    Jan 11 at 7:10










  • $begingroup$
    Why not take logs and use $$log(m!) = sum_{j=1}^{m} log(j)$$ It should make life easier.
    $endgroup$
    – Mattos
    Jan 11 at 7:12












  • $begingroup$
    You will get $log2$, not $log2^k$, in the numerator. On equating to $0$, you will get a quadratic in $k$, which can be solved easily, though integral solutions are not guaranteed
    $endgroup$
    – Shubham Johri
    Jan 11 at 7:54










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$begingroup$
The derivative of $2^k$ is $2^klog 2$.
$endgroup$
– Gaffney
Jan 11 at 7:09




$begingroup$
The derivative of $2^k$ is $2^klog 2$.
$endgroup$
– Gaffney
Jan 11 at 7:09












$begingroup$
Yeah in the above shown step I have removed $2^k$ from both numerator and denominator.
$endgroup$
– user3767495
Jan 11 at 7:10




$begingroup$
Yeah in the above shown step I have removed $2^k$ from both numerator and denominator.
$endgroup$
– user3767495
Jan 11 at 7:10












$begingroup$
Why not take logs and use $$log(m!) = sum_{j=1}^{m} log(j)$$ It should make life easier.
$endgroup$
– Mattos
Jan 11 at 7:12






$begingroup$
Why not take logs and use $$log(m!) = sum_{j=1}^{m} log(j)$$ It should make life easier.
$endgroup$
– Mattos
Jan 11 at 7:12














$begingroup$
You will get $log2$, not $log2^k$, in the numerator. On equating to $0$, you will get a quadratic in $k$, which can be solved easily, though integral solutions are not guaranteed
$endgroup$
– Shubham Johri
Jan 11 at 7:54






$begingroup$
You will get $log2$, not $log2^k$, in the numerator. On equating to $0$, you will get a quadratic in $k$, which can be solved easily, though integral solutions are not guaranteed
$endgroup$
– Shubham Johri
Jan 11 at 7:54












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