Understanding the Existence and Uniqueness of the GCD
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For $a,b in mathbb{Z}$, a positive integer $c$ is said to be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ if $cmid a$ and $cmid b$.
$c$ is the greatest common divisor of $a$ and $b$ if it is a common divisor of $a,b$ and for any common divisor $d$ of $a$ and $b$, we have $dmid c$.
The Proof
For all $a,b in mathbb{Z^{+}}$ there exists a unique $c in mathbb{Z^{+}}$, that is the greatest common divisor of $a,b$.
Let $S = {as + bt: s,tin mathbb{Z}, as+bt > 0}$. Since $ S neq emptyset$, then by the WOP, S has a least element $c$. We claim $c$ is a greatest common denominator of $a,b$.
My Problem
$S = {as + bt: s,tin mathbb{Z}, as+bt > 0}$. I have no idea what this has to do with the greatest common divisor. I understand the WOP ensures the existence of a smallest element, but why can I just claim this as the GCD?
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For $a,b in mathbb{Z}$, a positive integer $c$ is said to be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ if $cmid a$ and $cmid b$.
$c$ is the greatest common divisor of $a$ and $b$ if it is a common divisor of $a,b$ and for any common divisor $d$ of $a$ and $b$, we have $dmid c$.
The Proof
For all $a,b in mathbb{Z^{+}}$ there exists a unique $c in mathbb{Z^{+}}$, that is the greatest common divisor of $a,b$.
Let $S = {as + bt: s,tin mathbb{Z}, as+bt > 0}$. Since $ S neq emptyset$, then by the WOP, S has a least element $c$. We claim $c$ is a greatest common denominator of $a,b$.
My Problem
$S = {as + bt: s,tin mathbb{Z}, as+bt > 0}$. I have no idea what this has to do with the greatest common divisor. I understand the WOP ensures the existence of a smallest element, but why can I just claim this as the GCD?
elementary-number-theory discrete-mathematics proof-explanation greatest-common-divisor
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That's not a proof of the greatest common divisor. That's a proof of the least common multiple.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:11
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The proof of gcd would be to let S={k| k|a,k||b}. It's not empty as 1 is in it. So it has a max element c. Gotta prove all divisors divide c
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:18
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@fleablood this comes from the book "Discrete and Combinatorial Mathematics: An Applied Introduction" by Ralph P. Grimaldi. Maybe an error?
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– Dunka
Apr 3 '17 at 5:46
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Oops. I assumed those had to be positive integers. So, yes this is the gcd. But you have to continue the prove to see that this is so. It's not imediately apparent. Example: gcd(6,15) is 3 and the smallest 15s+6t is 1x15-2x6=3. And 3 is the gcd.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:00
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Are you asking how to finish the quoted proof (isn't that done in your book?), or, instead, do you seek some intuition about why the proof uses the set $S$?
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– Bill Dubuque
Apr 3 '17 at 16:11
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show 2 more comments
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Definitions
For $a,b in mathbb{Z}$, a positive integer $c$ is said to be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ if $cmid a$ and $cmid b$.
$c$ is the greatest common divisor of $a$ and $b$ if it is a common divisor of $a,b$ and for any common divisor $d$ of $a$ and $b$, we have $dmid c$.
The Proof
For all $a,b in mathbb{Z^{+}}$ there exists a unique $c in mathbb{Z^{+}}$, that is the greatest common divisor of $a,b$.
Let $S = {as + bt: s,tin mathbb{Z}, as+bt > 0}$. Since $ S neq emptyset$, then by the WOP, S has a least element $c$. We claim $c$ is a greatest common denominator of $a,b$.
My Problem
$S = {as + bt: s,tin mathbb{Z}, as+bt > 0}$. I have no idea what this has to do with the greatest common divisor. I understand the WOP ensures the existence of a smallest element, but why can I just claim this as the GCD?
elementary-number-theory discrete-mathematics proof-explanation greatest-common-divisor
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Definitions
For $a,b in mathbb{Z}$, a positive integer $c$ is said to be a common divisor of $a$ and $b$ if $cmid a$ and $cmid b$.
$c$ is the greatest common divisor of $a$ and $b$ if it is a common divisor of $a,b$ and for any common divisor $d$ of $a$ and $b$, we have $dmid c$.
The Proof
For all $a,b in mathbb{Z^{+}}$ there exists a unique $c in mathbb{Z^{+}}$, that is the greatest common divisor of $a,b$.
Let $S = {as + bt: s,tin mathbb{Z}, as+bt > 0}$. Since $ S neq emptyset$, then by the WOP, S has a least element $c$. We claim $c$ is a greatest common denominator of $a,b$.
My Problem
$S = {as + bt: s,tin mathbb{Z}, as+bt > 0}$. I have no idea what this has to do with the greatest common divisor. I understand the WOP ensures the existence of a smallest element, but why can I just claim this as the GCD?
elementary-number-theory discrete-mathematics proof-explanation greatest-common-divisor
elementary-number-theory discrete-mathematics proof-explanation greatest-common-divisor
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That's not a proof of the greatest common divisor. That's a proof of the least common multiple.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:11
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The proof of gcd would be to let S={k| k|a,k||b}. It's not empty as 1 is in it. So it has a max element c. Gotta prove all divisors divide c
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:18
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@fleablood this comes from the book "Discrete and Combinatorial Mathematics: An Applied Introduction" by Ralph P. Grimaldi. Maybe an error?
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– Dunka
Apr 3 '17 at 5:46
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Oops. I assumed those had to be positive integers. So, yes this is the gcd. But you have to continue the prove to see that this is so. It's not imediately apparent. Example: gcd(6,15) is 3 and the smallest 15s+6t is 1x15-2x6=3. And 3 is the gcd.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:00
1
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Are you asking how to finish the quoted proof (isn't that done in your book?), or, instead, do you seek some intuition about why the proof uses the set $S$?
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– Bill Dubuque
Apr 3 '17 at 16:11
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show 2 more comments
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That's not a proof of the greatest common divisor. That's a proof of the least common multiple.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:11
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The proof of gcd would be to let S={k| k|a,k||b}. It's not empty as 1 is in it. So it has a max element c. Gotta prove all divisors divide c
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:18
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@fleablood this comes from the book "Discrete and Combinatorial Mathematics: An Applied Introduction" by Ralph P. Grimaldi. Maybe an error?
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– Dunka
Apr 3 '17 at 5:46
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Oops. I assumed those had to be positive integers. So, yes this is the gcd. But you have to continue the prove to see that this is so. It's not imediately apparent. Example: gcd(6,15) is 3 and the smallest 15s+6t is 1x15-2x6=3. And 3 is the gcd.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:00
1
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Are you asking how to finish the quoted proof (isn't that done in your book?), or, instead, do you seek some intuition about why the proof uses the set $S$?
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– Bill Dubuque
Apr 3 '17 at 16:11
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That's not a proof of the greatest common divisor. That's a proof of the least common multiple.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:11
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That's not a proof of the greatest common divisor. That's a proof of the least common multiple.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:11
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The proof of gcd would be to let S={k| k|a,k||b}. It's not empty as 1 is in it. So it has a max element c. Gotta prove all divisors divide c
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:18
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The proof of gcd would be to let S={k| k|a,k||b}. It's not empty as 1 is in it. So it has a max element c. Gotta prove all divisors divide c
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:18
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@fleablood this comes from the book "Discrete and Combinatorial Mathematics: An Applied Introduction" by Ralph P. Grimaldi. Maybe an error?
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– Dunka
Apr 3 '17 at 5:46
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@fleablood this comes from the book "Discrete and Combinatorial Mathematics: An Applied Introduction" by Ralph P. Grimaldi. Maybe an error?
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– Dunka
Apr 3 '17 at 5:46
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Oops. I assumed those had to be positive integers. So, yes this is the gcd. But you have to continue the prove to see that this is so. It's not imediately apparent. Example: gcd(6,15) is 3 and the smallest 15s+6t is 1x15-2x6=3. And 3 is the gcd.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:00
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Oops. I assumed those had to be positive integers. So, yes this is the gcd. But you have to continue the prove to see that this is so. It's not imediately apparent. Example: gcd(6,15) is 3 and the smallest 15s+6t is 1x15-2x6=3. And 3 is the gcd.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:00
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Are you asking how to finish the quoted proof (isn't that done in your book?), or, instead, do you seek some intuition about why the proof uses the set $S$?
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– Bill Dubuque
Apr 3 '17 at 16:11
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Are you asking how to finish the quoted proof (isn't that done in your book?), or, instead, do you seek some intuition about why the proof uses the set $S$?
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– Bill Dubuque
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This is related to Bezout identity.
Let $c_0=as_0+bt_0=min(S)tag{0}$
Then if $d$ is a common divisor of $a,b$ then $a=da'$ and $b=db'$ we have $as_0+bt_0=d(a's_0+b't_0)=c_0$
$text{d divides a,b}Rightarrow dmid c_0tag{1}$
On the other hand for $cin S$, we have $c=as+bt=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$
So $r=(s-s_0q)a+(t-t_0q)b overset{?}{in} Squad$ but $0le r<c_0$ by euclidian division definition.
If $r>0$ this contradict the fact that $c_0$ is $min(S)$, so $r=0$ and $c=c_0q$
Note: since $qge 1$ then $cge c_0$ ($qge 0$ integer, and cannot be $0$, else $c=0notin S$). We already know it from the minimum assertion, but it's good to have it back as a verification.
$cin SRightarrow ctext{ is a multiple of }c_0tag{2}$
Using the same method of euclidian division by $c_0$, we can show that $a$ and $b$ are also multiples of $c_0$. (note: $q,r$ are dummy variables, they are not the same than previously).
$a=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$ with $0le r<c_0$ so $r=(1-s_0q)a+(-t_0q)boverset{?}{in} S$ and we conclude like previously, same with $b$.
$a,b text{ are multiples of } c_0tag{3}$
Combining $(0),(1),(2),(3)$ we proved that $c_0=gcd(a,b)$ and that $c_0$ is the smallest number reachable by a relation of type $S$ whose elements are all multiples of $c_0$.
To put this in everyday words: if two numbers are multiple of $3$ for instance, then their sum and their difference is also a multiple of $3$. Plus if they are not equal, the smallest possible difference is $3$.
Replace $3$ by $gcd(a,b)$ and this is exactly what is mathematically written above.
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In paragraph 4 how do you know c_0 is a common divisor?
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:30
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@fleablood you are right, it is not written explicitly, I'll edit, this is equation (3).
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We are asked to show the existence and uniqueness of the GCD denoted as $c$ of two integers $a,b$. There are two parts of of this proof: Showing the existence and showing the uniqueness. To show the existence we must show there is a $c$ that divides $a,b$ and for any common divisor $d$ of $a,b$, $d|c$.
Part I: Existence
1) Let $S = {as+bt|s,t in mathbb{Z},as+bt > 0}$. Since $S neq emptyset$, by WOP, $S$ has a smallest element $c$, which we will call the GCD.
2) Will now show any divisor $d$ also divided $c$. $c in S implies c =ax+by$ and any $d in mathbb{Z} land d|a land d|b implies d|(ax+by) implies d|c$
3) We now show that $c|a$ and $c|b$. If $c$ doesn't divide $a$, then $a = qc + r$ where $q,r in mathbb{Z^+} land 0 < r < c implies r = a - qc = a - q(ax + by) = a - qax - qby = a(1-qx) + (-qy)b implies r in S$ this contradicts that $c$ is the smallest element in $S$. Similar arguments apply for b
4) We have shown $c|a land c|b land d|c$ for any divisor $d$ of $a,b$, so now we must show that $c$ is unique.
Part II: Uniqueness
1) If $c_1,c_2$ both satisfy the conditions of GCD, then one is GCD and one is common divisor. If $c_1$ is GCD and $c_2$ is CD, then $c_2|c_1$ the other way around, we have $c_1|c_2$ which means $c_1 = c_2$ because they are both positive.
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This is related to Bezout identity.
Let $c_0=as_0+bt_0=min(S)tag{0}$
Then if $d$ is a common divisor of $a,b$ then $a=da'$ and $b=db'$ we have $as_0+bt_0=d(a's_0+b't_0)=c_0$
$text{d divides a,b}Rightarrow dmid c_0tag{1}$
On the other hand for $cin S$, we have $c=as+bt=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$
So $r=(s-s_0q)a+(t-t_0q)b overset{?}{in} Squad$ but $0le r<c_0$ by euclidian division definition.
If $r>0$ this contradict the fact that $c_0$ is $min(S)$, so $r=0$ and $c=c_0q$
Note: since $qge 1$ then $cge c_0$ ($qge 0$ integer, and cannot be $0$, else $c=0notin S$). We already know it from the minimum assertion, but it's good to have it back as a verification.
$cin SRightarrow ctext{ is a multiple of }c_0tag{2}$
Using the same method of euclidian division by $c_0$, we can show that $a$ and $b$ are also multiples of $c_0$. (note: $q,r$ are dummy variables, they are not the same than previously).
$a=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$ with $0le r<c_0$ so $r=(1-s_0q)a+(-t_0q)boverset{?}{in} S$ and we conclude like previously, same with $b$.
$a,b text{ are multiples of } c_0tag{3}$
Combining $(0),(1),(2),(3)$ we proved that $c_0=gcd(a,b)$ and that $c_0$ is the smallest number reachable by a relation of type $S$ whose elements are all multiples of $c_0$.
To put this in everyday words: if two numbers are multiple of $3$ for instance, then their sum and their difference is also a multiple of $3$. Plus if they are not equal, the smallest possible difference is $3$.
Replace $3$ by $gcd(a,b)$ and this is exactly what is mathematically written above.
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In paragraph 4 how do you know c_0 is a common divisor?
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:30
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@fleablood you are right, it is not written explicitly, I'll edit, this is equation (3).
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– zwim
Apr 3 '17 at 8:20
add a comment |
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This is related to Bezout identity.
Let $c_0=as_0+bt_0=min(S)tag{0}$
Then if $d$ is a common divisor of $a,b$ then $a=da'$ and $b=db'$ we have $as_0+bt_0=d(a's_0+b't_0)=c_0$
$text{d divides a,b}Rightarrow dmid c_0tag{1}$
On the other hand for $cin S$, we have $c=as+bt=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$
So $r=(s-s_0q)a+(t-t_0q)b overset{?}{in} Squad$ but $0le r<c_0$ by euclidian division definition.
If $r>0$ this contradict the fact that $c_0$ is $min(S)$, so $r=0$ and $c=c_0q$
Note: since $qge 1$ then $cge c_0$ ($qge 0$ integer, and cannot be $0$, else $c=0notin S$). We already know it from the minimum assertion, but it's good to have it back as a verification.
$cin SRightarrow ctext{ is a multiple of }c_0tag{2}$
Using the same method of euclidian division by $c_0$, we can show that $a$ and $b$ are also multiples of $c_0$. (note: $q,r$ are dummy variables, they are not the same than previously).
$a=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$ with $0le r<c_0$ so $r=(1-s_0q)a+(-t_0q)boverset{?}{in} S$ and we conclude like previously, same with $b$.
$a,b text{ are multiples of } c_0tag{3}$
Combining $(0),(1),(2),(3)$ we proved that $c_0=gcd(a,b)$ and that $c_0$ is the smallest number reachable by a relation of type $S$ whose elements are all multiples of $c_0$.
To put this in everyday words: if two numbers are multiple of $3$ for instance, then their sum and their difference is also a multiple of $3$. Plus if they are not equal, the smallest possible difference is $3$.
Replace $3$ by $gcd(a,b)$ and this is exactly what is mathematically written above.
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In paragraph 4 how do you know c_0 is a common divisor?
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:30
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@fleablood you are right, it is not written explicitly, I'll edit, this is equation (3).
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– zwim
Apr 3 '17 at 8:20
add a comment |
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This is related to Bezout identity.
Let $c_0=as_0+bt_0=min(S)tag{0}$
Then if $d$ is a common divisor of $a,b$ then $a=da'$ and $b=db'$ we have $as_0+bt_0=d(a's_0+b't_0)=c_0$
$text{d divides a,b}Rightarrow dmid c_0tag{1}$
On the other hand for $cin S$, we have $c=as+bt=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$
So $r=(s-s_0q)a+(t-t_0q)b overset{?}{in} Squad$ but $0le r<c_0$ by euclidian division definition.
If $r>0$ this contradict the fact that $c_0$ is $min(S)$, so $r=0$ and $c=c_0q$
Note: since $qge 1$ then $cge c_0$ ($qge 0$ integer, and cannot be $0$, else $c=0notin S$). We already know it from the minimum assertion, but it's good to have it back as a verification.
$cin SRightarrow ctext{ is a multiple of }c_0tag{2}$
Using the same method of euclidian division by $c_0$, we can show that $a$ and $b$ are also multiples of $c_0$. (note: $q,r$ are dummy variables, they are not the same than previously).
$a=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$ with $0le r<c_0$ so $r=(1-s_0q)a+(-t_0q)boverset{?}{in} S$ and we conclude like previously, same with $b$.
$a,b text{ are multiples of } c_0tag{3}$
Combining $(0),(1),(2),(3)$ we proved that $c_0=gcd(a,b)$ and that $c_0$ is the smallest number reachable by a relation of type $S$ whose elements are all multiples of $c_0$.
To put this in everyday words: if two numbers are multiple of $3$ for instance, then their sum and their difference is also a multiple of $3$. Plus if they are not equal, the smallest possible difference is $3$.
Replace $3$ by $gcd(a,b)$ and this is exactly what is mathematically written above.
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This is related to Bezout identity.
Let $c_0=as_0+bt_0=min(S)tag{0}$
Then if $d$ is a common divisor of $a,b$ then $a=da'$ and $b=db'$ we have $as_0+bt_0=d(a's_0+b't_0)=c_0$
$text{d divides a,b}Rightarrow dmid c_0tag{1}$
On the other hand for $cin S$, we have $c=as+bt=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$
So $r=(s-s_0q)a+(t-t_0q)b overset{?}{in} Squad$ but $0le r<c_0$ by euclidian division definition.
If $r>0$ this contradict the fact that $c_0$ is $min(S)$, so $r=0$ and $c=c_0q$
Note: since $qge 1$ then $cge c_0$ ($qge 0$ integer, and cannot be $0$, else $c=0notin S$). We already know it from the minimum assertion, but it's good to have it back as a verification.
$cin SRightarrow ctext{ is a multiple of }c_0tag{2}$
Using the same method of euclidian division by $c_0$, we can show that $a$ and $b$ are also multiples of $c_0$. (note: $q,r$ are dummy variables, they are not the same than previously).
$a=c_0q+r=(as_0+bt_0)q+r$ with $0le r<c_0$ so $r=(1-s_0q)a+(-t_0q)boverset{?}{in} S$ and we conclude like previously, same with $b$.
$a,b text{ are multiples of } c_0tag{3}$
Combining $(0),(1),(2),(3)$ we proved that $c_0=gcd(a,b)$ and that $c_0$ is the smallest number reachable by a relation of type $S$ whose elements are all multiples of $c_0$.
To put this in everyday words: if two numbers are multiple of $3$ for instance, then their sum and their difference is also a multiple of $3$. Plus if they are not equal, the smallest possible difference is $3$.
Replace $3$ by $gcd(a,b)$ and this is exactly what is mathematically written above.
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In paragraph 4 how do you know c_0 is a common divisor?
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:30
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@fleablood you are right, it is not written explicitly, I'll edit, this is equation (3).
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– zwim
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In paragraph 4 how do you know c_0 is a common divisor?
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:30
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@fleablood you are right, it is not written explicitly, I'll edit, this is equation (3).
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– zwim
Apr 3 '17 at 8:20
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In paragraph 4 how do you know c_0 is a common divisor?
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:30
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In paragraph 4 how do you know c_0 is a common divisor?
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 6:30
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@fleablood you are right, it is not written explicitly, I'll edit, this is equation (3).
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– zwim
Apr 3 '17 at 8:20
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@fleablood you are right, it is not written explicitly, I'll edit, this is equation (3).
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– zwim
Apr 3 '17 at 8:20
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We are asked to show the existence and uniqueness of the GCD denoted as $c$ of two integers $a,b$. There are two parts of of this proof: Showing the existence and showing the uniqueness. To show the existence we must show there is a $c$ that divides $a,b$ and for any common divisor $d$ of $a,b$, $d|c$.
Part I: Existence
1) Let $S = {as+bt|s,t in mathbb{Z},as+bt > 0}$. Since $S neq emptyset$, by WOP, $S$ has a smallest element $c$, which we will call the GCD.
2) Will now show any divisor $d$ also divided $c$. $c in S implies c =ax+by$ and any $d in mathbb{Z} land d|a land d|b implies d|(ax+by) implies d|c$
3) We now show that $c|a$ and $c|b$. If $c$ doesn't divide $a$, then $a = qc + r$ where $q,r in mathbb{Z^+} land 0 < r < c implies r = a - qc = a - q(ax + by) = a - qax - qby = a(1-qx) + (-qy)b implies r in S$ this contradicts that $c$ is the smallest element in $S$. Similar arguments apply for b
4) We have shown $c|a land c|b land d|c$ for any divisor $d$ of $a,b$, so now we must show that $c$ is unique.
Part II: Uniqueness
1) If $c_1,c_2$ both satisfy the conditions of GCD, then one is GCD and one is common divisor. If $c_1$ is GCD and $c_2$ is CD, then $c_2|c_1$ the other way around, we have $c_1|c_2$ which means $c_1 = c_2$ because they are both positive.
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We are asked to show the existence and uniqueness of the GCD denoted as $c$ of two integers $a,b$. There are two parts of of this proof: Showing the existence and showing the uniqueness. To show the existence we must show there is a $c$ that divides $a,b$ and for any common divisor $d$ of $a,b$, $d|c$.
Part I: Existence
1) Let $S = {as+bt|s,t in mathbb{Z},as+bt > 0}$. Since $S neq emptyset$, by WOP, $S$ has a smallest element $c$, which we will call the GCD.
2) Will now show any divisor $d$ also divided $c$. $c in S implies c =ax+by$ and any $d in mathbb{Z} land d|a land d|b implies d|(ax+by) implies d|c$
3) We now show that $c|a$ and $c|b$. If $c$ doesn't divide $a$, then $a = qc + r$ where $q,r in mathbb{Z^+} land 0 < r < c implies r = a - qc = a - q(ax + by) = a - qax - qby = a(1-qx) + (-qy)b implies r in S$ this contradicts that $c$ is the smallest element in $S$. Similar arguments apply for b
4) We have shown $c|a land c|b land d|c$ for any divisor $d$ of $a,b$, so now we must show that $c$ is unique.
Part II: Uniqueness
1) If $c_1,c_2$ both satisfy the conditions of GCD, then one is GCD and one is common divisor. If $c_1$ is GCD and $c_2$ is CD, then $c_2|c_1$ the other way around, we have $c_1|c_2$ which means $c_1 = c_2$ because they are both positive.
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We are asked to show the existence and uniqueness of the GCD denoted as $c$ of two integers $a,b$. There are two parts of of this proof: Showing the existence and showing the uniqueness. To show the existence we must show there is a $c$ that divides $a,b$ and for any common divisor $d$ of $a,b$, $d|c$.
Part I: Existence
1) Let $S = {as+bt|s,t in mathbb{Z},as+bt > 0}$. Since $S neq emptyset$, by WOP, $S$ has a smallest element $c$, which we will call the GCD.
2) Will now show any divisor $d$ also divided $c$. $c in S implies c =ax+by$ and any $d in mathbb{Z} land d|a land d|b implies d|(ax+by) implies d|c$
3) We now show that $c|a$ and $c|b$. If $c$ doesn't divide $a$, then $a = qc + r$ where $q,r in mathbb{Z^+} land 0 < r < c implies r = a - qc = a - q(ax + by) = a - qax - qby = a(1-qx) + (-qy)b implies r in S$ this contradicts that $c$ is the smallest element in $S$. Similar arguments apply for b
4) We have shown $c|a land c|b land d|c$ for any divisor $d$ of $a,b$, so now we must show that $c$ is unique.
Part II: Uniqueness
1) If $c_1,c_2$ both satisfy the conditions of GCD, then one is GCD and one is common divisor. If $c_1$ is GCD and $c_2$ is CD, then $c_2|c_1$ the other way around, we have $c_1|c_2$ which means $c_1 = c_2$ because they are both positive.
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We are asked to show the existence and uniqueness of the GCD denoted as $c$ of two integers $a,b$. There are two parts of of this proof: Showing the existence and showing the uniqueness. To show the existence we must show there is a $c$ that divides $a,b$ and for any common divisor $d$ of $a,b$, $d|c$.
Part I: Existence
1) Let $S = {as+bt|s,t in mathbb{Z},as+bt > 0}$. Since $S neq emptyset$, by WOP, $S$ has a smallest element $c$, which we will call the GCD.
2) Will now show any divisor $d$ also divided $c$. $c in S implies c =ax+by$ and any $d in mathbb{Z} land d|a land d|b implies d|(ax+by) implies d|c$
3) We now show that $c|a$ and $c|b$. If $c$ doesn't divide $a$, then $a = qc + r$ where $q,r in mathbb{Z^+} land 0 < r < c implies r = a - qc = a - q(ax + by) = a - qax - qby = a(1-qx) + (-qy)b implies r in S$ this contradicts that $c$ is the smallest element in $S$. Similar arguments apply for b
4) We have shown $c|a land c|b land d|c$ for any divisor $d$ of $a,b$, so now we must show that $c$ is unique.
Part II: Uniqueness
1) If $c_1,c_2$ both satisfy the conditions of GCD, then one is GCD and one is common divisor. If $c_1$ is GCD and $c_2$ is CD, then $c_2|c_1$ the other way around, we have $c_1|c_2$ which means $c_1 = c_2$ because they are both positive.
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That's not a proof of the greatest common divisor. That's a proof of the least common multiple.
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:11
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The proof of gcd would be to let S={k| k|a,k||b}. It's not empty as 1 is in it. So it has a max element c. Gotta prove all divisors divide c
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– fleablood
Apr 3 '17 at 3:18
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@fleablood this comes from the book "Discrete and Combinatorial Mathematics: An Applied Introduction" by Ralph P. Grimaldi. Maybe an error?
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– Dunka
Apr 3 '17 at 5:46
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Oops. I assumed those had to be positive integers. So, yes this is the gcd. But you have to continue the prove to see that this is so. It's not imediately apparent. Example: gcd(6,15) is 3 and the smallest 15s+6t is 1x15-2x6=3. And 3 is the gcd.
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– fleablood
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Are you asking how to finish the quoted proof (isn't that done in your book?), or, instead, do you seek some intuition about why the proof uses the set $S$?
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– Bill Dubuque
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