Find an appropriate set and a function such that neither is a subset of the other.












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I'm supposed to find a function $f:Xrightarrow Y$ and a set $Asubseteq X$ such that neither $f(A^{c})subseteq f(A)^{c}$ nor $f(A)^{c}subseteq f(A^{c})$.



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      I'm supposed to find a function $f:Xrightarrow Y$ and a set $Asubseteq X$ such that neither $f(A^{c})subseteq f(A)^{c}$ nor $f(A)^{c}subseteq f(A^{c})$.



      I really don't know what to look for or start.










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      I really don't know what to look for or start.







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          Always try some finite examples first:



          $X=Y={1,2,3,4}$, $A={1,2}$, $f(1)=1, f(2)=2,f(3)=2, f(4)=3$.



          Then $f[A]= {1,2}$, $f[A^c]={2,3}$, $f[A]^c = {3,4}$, so neither inclusion holds between $f[A^c]$ and $f[A]^c$. Found by some trial and error.






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            Always try some finite examples first:



            $X=Y={1,2,3,4}$, $A={1,2}$, $f(1)=1, f(2)=2,f(3)=2, f(4)=3$.



            Then $f[A]= {1,2}$, $f[A^c]={2,3}$, $f[A]^c = {3,4}$, so neither inclusion holds between $f[A^c]$ and $f[A]^c$. Found by some trial and error.






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              Always try some finite examples first:



              $X=Y={1,2,3,4}$, $A={1,2}$, $f(1)=1, f(2)=2,f(3)=2, f(4)=3$.



              Then $f[A]= {1,2}$, $f[A^c]={2,3}$, $f[A]^c = {3,4}$, so neither inclusion holds between $f[A^c]$ and $f[A]^c$. Found by some trial and error.






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                Always try some finite examples first:



                $X=Y={1,2,3,4}$, $A={1,2}$, $f(1)=1, f(2)=2,f(3)=2, f(4)=3$.



                Then $f[A]= {1,2}$, $f[A^c]={2,3}$, $f[A]^c = {3,4}$, so neither inclusion holds between $f[A^c]$ and $f[A]^c$. Found by some trial and error.






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                Always try some finite examples first:



                $X=Y={1,2,3,4}$, $A={1,2}$, $f(1)=1, f(2)=2,f(3)=2, f(4)=3$.



                Then $f[A]= {1,2}$, $f[A^c]={2,3}$, $f[A]^c = {3,4}$, so neither inclusion holds between $f[A^c]$ and $f[A]^c$. Found by some trial and error.







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