Prove or disprove. Let $G$ be an abelian group. Let $N triangleleft G$. Then, $ Gcong N times G/N. $...
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Prove or disprove. Let $G$ be an abelian group. Let $N triangleleft G$. Then,
$$
Gcong N times G/N.
$$
I tried to prove this claim, but then it seems that since $G$ is abelian then every subgroup is normal. So every group can be factored as above. But I did not find a counter example.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for helpers!
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Prove or disprove. Let $G$ be an abelian group. Let $N triangleleft G$. Then,
$$
Gcong N times G/N.
$$
I tried to prove this claim, but then it seems that since $G$ is abelian then every subgroup is normal. So every group can be factored as above. But I did not find a counter example.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for helpers!
group-theory examples-counterexamples abelian-groups normal-subgroups group-isomorphism
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Prove or disprove. Let $G$ be an abelian group. Let $N triangleleft G$. Then,
$$
Gcong N times G/N.
$$
I tried to prove this claim, but then it seems that since $G$ is abelian then every subgroup is normal. So every group can be factored as above. But I did not find a counter example.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for helpers!
group-theory examples-counterexamples abelian-groups normal-subgroups group-isomorphism
edited Jan 22 at 17:15
Martin Sleziak
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asked Jan 22 at 9:25
Shlomo WaknineShlomo Waknine
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This question already has an answer here:
if $A$ is Abelian group , $B$ is subgroup of $A$ , Is $B times A/B cong A$? [duplicate]
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Prove or disprove. Let $G$ be an abelian group. Let $N triangleleft G$. Then,
$$
Gcong N times G/N.
$$
I tried to prove this claim, but then it seems that since $G$ is abelian then every subgroup is normal. So every group can be factored as above. But I did not find a counter example.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for helpers!
This question already has an answer here:
if $A$ is Abelian group , $B$ is subgroup of $A$ , Is $B times A/B cong A$? [duplicate]
2 answers
group-theory examples-counterexamples abelian-groups normal-subgroups group-isomorphism
group-theory examples-counterexamples abelian-groups normal-subgroups group-isomorphism
edited Jan 22 at 17:15
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asked Jan 22 at 9:25
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edited Jan 22 at 17:15
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asked Jan 22 at 9:25
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Take the cyclic group $G=C_{p^2}$ and $N=C_p$ for $p$ prime. Then it is not true that
$$
G=C_{p^2}cong C_ptimes C_p=Ntimes G/N,
$$
because the group $C_ptimes C_p$ is not cyclic.
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Hint: Is $mathbb{Z}_4$ isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}_2timesmathbb{Z}_2$?
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Take $G=mathbb{Z}timesmathbb{Z}$ and $N=0times 2mathbb{Z}$, $G/N$ has a non-trivial element of finite order, but not $G$.
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Why $G=mathbb{Z}times mathbb{Z}$ rather than just $G=mathbb{Z}$?!
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Take the cyclic group $G=C_{p^2}$ and $N=C_p$ for $p$ prime. Then it is not true that
$$
G=C_{p^2}cong C_ptimes C_p=Ntimes G/N,
$$
because the group $C_ptimes C_p$ is not cyclic.
edited Jan 22 at 14:57
Shaun
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Dietrich BurdeDietrich Burde
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Take the cyclic group $G=C_{p^2}$ and $N=C_p$ for $p$ prime. Then it is not true that
$$
G=C_{p^2}cong C_ptimes C_p=Ntimes G/N,
$$
because the group $C_ptimes C_p$ is not cyclic.
edited Jan 22 at 14:57
Shaun
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Dietrich BurdeDietrich Burde
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Take the cyclic group $G=C_{p^2}$ and $N=C_p$ for $p$ prime. Then it is not true that
$$
G=C_{p^2}cong C_ptimes C_p=Ntimes G/N,
$$
because the group $C_ptimes C_p$ is not cyclic.
edited Jan 22 at 14:57
Shaun
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Dietrich BurdeDietrich Burde
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Take the cyclic group $G=C_{p^2}$ and $N=C_p$ for $p$ prime. Then it is not true that
$$
G=C_{p^2}cong C_ptimes C_p=Ntimes G/N,
$$
because the group $C_ptimes C_p$ is not cyclic.
edited Jan 22 at 14:57
Shaun
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Dietrich BurdeDietrich Burde
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edited Jan 22 at 14:57
Shaun
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edited Jan 22 at 14:57
Shaun
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Shaun
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Dietrich BurdeDietrich Burde
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Hint: Is $mathbb{Z}_4$ isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}_2timesmathbb{Z}_2$?
answered Jan 22 at 9:29
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Hint: Is $mathbb{Z}_4$ isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}_2timesmathbb{Z}_2$?
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Hint: Is $mathbb{Z}_4$ isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}_2timesmathbb{Z}_2$?
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Hint: Is $mathbb{Z}_4$ isomorphic to $mathbb{Z}_2timesmathbb{Z}_2$?
answered Jan 22 at 9:29
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answered Jan 22 at 9:29
José Carlos SantosJosé Carlos Santos
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answered Jan 22 at 9:29
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Take $G=mathbb{Z}timesmathbb{Z}$ and $N=0times 2mathbb{Z}$, $G/N$ has a non-trivial element of finite order, but not $G$.
edited Jan 22 at 17:37
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Why $G=mathbb{Z}times mathbb{Z}$ rather than just $G=mathbb{Z}$?!
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Take $G=mathbb{Z}timesmathbb{Z}$ and $N=0times 2mathbb{Z}$, $G/N$ has a non-trivial element of finite order, but not $G$.
edited Jan 22 at 17:37
user1729
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Tsemo AristideTsemo Aristide
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Why $G=mathbb{Z}times mathbb{Z}$ rather than just $G=mathbb{Z}$?!
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– user1729
Jan 22 at 17:36
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Take $G=mathbb{Z}timesmathbb{Z}$ and $N=0times 2mathbb{Z}$, $G/N$ has a non-trivial element of finite order, but not $G$.
edited Jan 22 at 17:37
user1729
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Tsemo AristideTsemo Aristide
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Take $G=mathbb{Z}timesmathbb{Z}$ and $N=0times 2mathbb{Z}$, $G/N$ has a non-trivial element of finite order, but not $G$.
edited Jan 22 at 17:37
user1729
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Tsemo AristideTsemo Aristide
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edited Jan 22 at 17:37
user1729
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edited Jan 22 at 17:37
user1729
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edited Jan 22 at 17:37
user1729
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17.2k64193
answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Tsemo AristideTsemo Aristide
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Tsemo AristideTsemo Aristide
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answered Jan 22 at 9:30
Tsemo AristideTsemo Aristide
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58.7k11445
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Why $G=mathbb{Z}times mathbb{Z}$ rather than just $G=mathbb{Z}$?!
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– user1729
Jan 22 at 17:36
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Why $G=mathbb{Z}times mathbb{Z}$ rather than just $G=mathbb{Z}$?!
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– user1729
Jan 22 at 17:36
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Why $G=mathbb{Z}times mathbb{Z}$ rather than just $G=mathbb{Z}$?!
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– user1729
Jan 22 at 17:36
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Why $G=mathbb{Z}times mathbb{Z}$ rather than just $G=mathbb{Z}$?!
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– user1729
Jan 22 at 17:36
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