If an operator $T$ satisfy a property, then $|Tx|=c|x|$

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Let $(E,langlecdot;,;cdotrangle)$ be a complex Hilbert space and $mathcal{L}(E)$ be the algebra of all operators on $E$.
Assume that $Tin mathcal{L}(E)$ and satisfy the following property (P):
$$langle x,yrangle=0Longrightarrow langle Tx,Tyrangle=0,$$
for all $x,yin E$.
I want to prove under the property $(P)$ that there exists $cgeq0$ such that
$$|Tx|=c|x|,$$
for all $xin E$.
Note that, if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$
for some $0leqalpha <beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$.
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Let $(E,langlecdot;,;cdotrangle)$ be a complex Hilbert space and $mathcal{L}(E)$ be the algebra of all operators on $E$.
Assume that $Tin mathcal{L}(E)$ and satisfy the following property (P):
$$langle x,yrangle=0Longrightarrow langle Tx,Tyrangle=0,$$
for all $x,yin E$.
I want to prove under the property $(P)$ that there exists $cgeq0$ such that
$$|Tx|=c|x|,$$
for all $xin E$.
Note that, if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$
for some $0leqalpha <beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$.
functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces
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This is the infinite-dimensional version of this property of conformal matrices.
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Let $(E,langlecdot;,;cdotrangle)$ be a complex Hilbert space and $mathcal{L}(E)$ be the algebra of all operators on $E$.
Assume that $Tin mathcal{L}(E)$ and satisfy the following property (P):
$$langle x,yrangle=0Longrightarrow langle Tx,Tyrangle=0,$$
for all $x,yin E$.
I want to prove under the property $(P)$ that there exists $cgeq0$ such that
$$|Tx|=c|x|,$$
for all $xin E$.
Note that, if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$
for some $0leqalpha <beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$.
functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces
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Let $(E,langlecdot;,;cdotrangle)$ be a complex Hilbert space and $mathcal{L}(E)$ be the algebra of all operators on $E$.
Assume that $Tin mathcal{L}(E)$ and satisfy the following property (P):
$$langle x,yrangle=0Longrightarrow langle Tx,Tyrangle=0,$$
for all $x,yin E$.
I want to prove under the property $(P)$ that there exists $cgeq0$ such that
$$|Tx|=c|x|,$$
for all $xin E$.
Note that, if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$
for some $0leqalpha <beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$.
functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces
functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces
edited Jan 22 at 10:36
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This is the infinite-dimensional version of this property of conformal matrices.
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– Giuseppe Negro
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This is the infinite-dimensional version of this property of conformal matrices.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Jan 22 at 10:56
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This is the infinite-dimensional version of this property of conformal matrices.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Jan 22 at 10:56
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This is the infinite-dimensional version of this property of conformal matrices.
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The claim as stated is false, because the operator $T=0$ provides a counterexample.
I assume for the rest that $Tneq 0$.
You wrote that
Note that, if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$
for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$.
This is already a very good start.
However, this statement is also true if you allow $alpha=0$
(although i do not know your proof of your statement, I would guess it could be modified to allow $alpha=0$).
Thus we can assume that $ker T={0}$.
Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$.
For an element $zin Esetminus{0}$ with $langle x,zrangle=0$,
we can use your observation to obtain that $|Tz|=c|z|$.
(Otherwise we would have have $|Tz|=alpha|z|$ for some $alphaneq c$.
Then your observation would imply $langle x,zrangle neq0$.)
Let $yin E$ be given.
Then we can find a decomposition $y=alpha x+z$ for $alphainmathbb C$ and $zin {x}^perp$.
Note that it follows that $alpha Txperp Tz$.
We calculate
$$
|Ty|^2=|alpha Tx+Tz|^2 = |alpha|^2|Tx|^2+|Tz|^2+ langle alpha Tx,Tzrangle
+ langle Tz,alpha Txrangle
\= |alpha|^2 c^2 |x|^2+c^2|z|^2 = c^2|alpha x+z|^2 = c^2|y|^2.
$$
Thus it holds for all $yin E$.
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$T$ is not zero operator
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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Please why we assume that $T$ is injective? Also I don't understand the idea here '' Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$. Then due to the thing you wrote, we also know that $|Tz|=|z|$ for $z$ such that $zperp x$.''
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:27
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Well, it is sufficient to fix the statement by changing $c>0$ into $cge0$.
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– egreg
Jan 22 at 10:27
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@egreg I fix it in my question.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:30
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@Student sorry i forgot the factor $c$, it should have been $|Tz|=c|z|$.
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Suppose there exists $x,yneq 0$ with $langle x,yrangle =0$ and $|T(x)|=a|x|, |T(y)|=b|y|, aneq b$. We can assume $|x|=|y|=1$.
$$langle x+y,x-yrangle=0, langle T(x+y),T(x-y)rangle$$ $$ =langle T(x),T(x)rangle-langle T(x),T(y)rangle+langle T(y),T(x)rangle-langle T(y),T(y)rangle=a^2-b^2neq 0$$ contradiction.
Let $xneq 0$, $yin Vec(x)^{perp}$, $|T(x)|=c|x|, |T(y)|=c|y|$. For every $zin H$, $z=ux+vy, yin Vect(x)^{perp}$, implies $|T(z)|^2=|T(ux+vy)|^2=langle T(ux)+T(vy),T(ux)+T(vy)rangle=c^2|z|^2$.
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Assuming the statement you made at the end we can complete the proof as follows. We first show that $T$ is one-to-one unless it is the zero operator. Suppose $Tx =0, xneq 0$. Let $y neq0$. If $langle x,yrangle neq 0$ and $a= frac {langle x,yrangle } {|y|^{2}}$then $x-ay$ and $y$ are orthogonal. The hypothesis now tells us that $Ty=0$. On the other hand if $langle x,yrangle = 0$ then there exist $aneq 0, bneq 0$ such that $x-ay$ and $x-by$ are orthogonal which again gives $Ty=0$. Hence $T$ is the zero operator in which case we can take $c=0$. Thus $T neq 0$ implies $T$ is one-to -one. Let ${e_i}$ be an orthonormal basis (not necessarily countable). It follows that $|Te_i|$ is independent of $i$ (unless $T(e_i)=0$). Also $T(e_i)$ are orthogonal. This immediately gives the result with $c=|Te_i|$. Just expand any element in terms of the basis and use orthogonality of $T(e_i)$'s. [Proof of the fact that $ |Te_i |neq |Te_j |$ cannot occur: suppose $|Te_i |< |Te_j |$. Take $x =e_i,y=e_j, alpha =|Te_i |, beta =|Te_j |$. We get the contradiction that $langle e_i,e_jrangle neq 0$].
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We work in Hilbert space which not necessarely separable.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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@Student Separability is not required for this arguement. Every Hilbert space has an orthonormal basis and any element of the space has an expansion in terms of the basis.
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Jan 22 at 10:03
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Please I don't understand how do you use the following fact ''if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$ for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$'' to show the result.
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@Student I have added an explanation.
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The claim as stated is false, because the operator $T=0$ provides a counterexample.
I assume for the rest that $Tneq 0$.
You wrote that
Note that, if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$
for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$.
This is already a very good start.
However, this statement is also true if you allow $alpha=0$
(although i do not know your proof of your statement, I would guess it could be modified to allow $alpha=0$).
Thus we can assume that $ker T={0}$.
Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$.
For an element $zin Esetminus{0}$ with $langle x,zrangle=0$,
we can use your observation to obtain that $|Tz|=c|z|$.
(Otherwise we would have have $|Tz|=alpha|z|$ for some $alphaneq c$.
Then your observation would imply $langle x,zrangle neq0$.)
Let $yin E$ be given.
Then we can find a decomposition $y=alpha x+z$ for $alphainmathbb C$ and $zin {x}^perp$.
Note that it follows that $alpha Txperp Tz$.
We calculate
$$
|Ty|^2=|alpha Tx+Tz|^2 = |alpha|^2|Tx|^2+|Tz|^2+ langle alpha Tx,Tzrangle
+ langle Tz,alpha Txrangle
\= |alpha|^2 c^2 |x|^2+c^2|z|^2 = c^2|alpha x+z|^2 = c^2|y|^2.
$$
Thus it holds for all $yin E$.
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$T$ is not zero operator
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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Please why we assume that $T$ is injective? Also I don't understand the idea here '' Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$. Then due to the thing you wrote, we also know that $|Tz|=|z|$ for $z$ such that $zperp x$.''
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:27
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Well, it is sufficient to fix the statement by changing $c>0$ into $cge0$.
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– egreg
Jan 22 at 10:27
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@egreg I fix it in my question.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:30
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@Student sorry i forgot the factor $c$, it should have been $|Tz|=c|z|$.
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– supinf
Jan 22 at 10:39
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The claim as stated is false, because the operator $T=0$ provides a counterexample.
I assume for the rest that $Tneq 0$.
You wrote that
Note that, if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$
for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$.
This is already a very good start.
However, this statement is also true if you allow $alpha=0$
(although i do not know your proof of your statement, I would guess it could be modified to allow $alpha=0$).
Thus we can assume that $ker T={0}$.
Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$.
For an element $zin Esetminus{0}$ with $langle x,zrangle=0$,
we can use your observation to obtain that $|Tz|=c|z|$.
(Otherwise we would have have $|Tz|=alpha|z|$ for some $alphaneq c$.
Then your observation would imply $langle x,zrangle neq0$.)
Let $yin E$ be given.
Then we can find a decomposition $y=alpha x+z$ for $alphainmathbb C$ and $zin {x}^perp$.
Note that it follows that $alpha Txperp Tz$.
We calculate
$$
|Ty|^2=|alpha Tx+Tz|^2 = |alpha|^2|Tx|^2+|Tz|^2+ langle alpha Tx,Tzrangle
+ langle Tz,alpha Txrangle
\= |alpha|^2 c^2 |x|^2+c^2|z|^2 = c^2|alpha x+z|^2 = c^2|y|^2.
$$
Thus it holds for all $yin E$.
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$T$ is not zero operator
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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Please why we assume that $T$ is injective? Also I don't understand the idea here '' Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$. Then due to the thing you wrote, we also know that $|Tz|=|z|$ for $z$ such that $zperp x$.''
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:27
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Well, it is sufficient to fix the statement by changing $c>0$ into $cge0$.
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– egreg
Jan 22 at 10:27
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@egreg I fix it in my question.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:30
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@Student sorry i forgot the factor $c$, it should have been $|Tz|=c|z|$.
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– supinf
Jan 22 at 10:39
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The claim as stated is false, because the operator $T=0$ provides a counterexample.
I assume for the rest that $Tneq 0$.
You wrote that
Note that, if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$
for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$.
This is already a very good start.
However, this statement is also true if you allow $alpha=0$
(although i do not know your proof of your statement, I would guess it could be modified to allow $alpha=0$).
Thus we can assume that $ker T={0}$.
Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$.
For an element $zin Esetminus{0}$ with $langle x,zrangle=0$,
we can use your observation to obtain that $|Tz|=c|z|$.
(Otherwise we would have have $|Tz|=alpha|z|$ for some $alphaneq c$.
Then your observation would imply $langle x,zrangle neq0$.)
Let $yin E$ be given.
Then we can find a decomposition $y=alpha x+z$ for $alphainmathbb C$ and $zin {x}^perp$.
Note that it follows that $alpha Txperp Tz$.
We calculate
$$
|Ty|^2=|alpha Tx+Tz|^2 = |alpha|^2|Tx|^2+|Tz|^2+ langle alpha Tx,Tzrangle
+ langle Tz,alpha Txrangle
\= |alpha|^2 c^2 |x|^2+c^2|z|^2 = c^2|alpha x+z|^2 = c^2|y|^2.
$$
Thus it holds for all $yin E$.
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The claim as stated is false, because the operator $T=0$ provides a counterexample.
I assume for the rest that $Tneq 0$.
You wrote that
Note that, if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$
for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$.
This is already a very good start.
However, this statement is also true if you allow $alpha=0$
(although i do not know your proof of your statement, I would guess it could be modified to allow $alpha=0$).
Thus we can assume that $ker T={0}$.
Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$.
For an element $zin Esetminus{0}$ with $langle x,zrangle=0$,
we can use your observation to obtain that $|Tz|=c|z|$.
(Otherwise we would have have $|Tz|=alpha|z|$ for some $alphaneq c$.
Then your observation would imply $langle x,zrangle neq0$.)
Let $yin E$ be given.
Then we can find a decomposition $y=alpha x+z$ for $alphainmathbb C$ and $zin {x}^perp$.
Note that it follows that $alpha Txperp Tz$.
We calculate
$$
|Ty|^2=|alpha Tx+Tz|^2 = |alpha|^2|Tx|^2+|Tz|^2+ langle alpha Tx,Tzrangle
+ langle Tz,alpha Txrangle
\= |alpha|^2 c^2 |x|^2+c^2|z|^2 = c^2|alpha x+z|^2 = c^2|y|^2.
$$
Thus it holds for all $yin E$.
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$T$ is not zero operator
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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Please why we assume that $T$ is injective? Also I don't understand the idea here '' Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$. Then due to the thing you wrote, we also know that $|Tz|=|z|$ for $z$ such that $zperp x$.''
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:27
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Well, it is sufficient to fix the statement by changing $c>0$ into $cge0$.
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– egreg
Jan 22 at 10:27
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@egreg I fix it in my question.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:30
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@Student sorry i forgot the factor $c$, it should have been $|Tz|=c|z|$.
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– supinf
Jan 22 at 10:39
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show 2 more comments
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$T$ is not zero operator
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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Please why we assume that $T$ is injective? Also I don't understand the idea here '' Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$. Then due to the thing you wrote, we also know that $|Tz|=|z|$ for $z$ such that $zperp x$.''
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:27
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Well, it is sufficient to fix the statement by changing $c>0$ into $cge0$.
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– egreg
Jan 22 at 10:27
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@egreg I fix it in my question.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:30
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@Student sorry i forgot the factor $c$, it should have been $|Tz|=c|z|$.
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– supinf
Jan 22 at 10:39
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$T$ is not zero operator
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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$T$ is not zero operator
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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Please why we assume that $T$ is injective? Also I don't understand the idea here '' Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$. Then due to the thing you wrote, we also know that $|Tz|=|z|$ for $z$ such that $zperp x$.''
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:27
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Please why we assume that $T$ is injective? Also I don't understand the idea here '' Let $xin Esetminus{0}$ be an arbitrary point and let $c>0$ be such that $|Tx|=c|x|$. Then due to the thing you wrote, we also know that $|Tz|=|z|$ for $z$ such that $zperp x$.''
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:27
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Well, it is sufficient to fix the statement by changing $c>0$ into $cge0$.
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– egreg
Jan 22 at 10:27
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Well, it is sufficient to fix the statement by changing $c>0$ into $cge0$.
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– egreg
Jan 22 at 10:27
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@egreg I fix it in my question.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:30
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@egreg I fix it in my question.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:30
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@Student sorry i forgot the factor $c$, it should have been $|Tz|=c|z|$.
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– supinf
Jan 22 at 10:39
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@Student sorry i forgot the factor $c$, it should have been $|Tz|=c|z|$.
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– supinf
Jan 22 at 10:39
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Suppose there exists $x,yneq 0$ with $langle x,yrangle =0$ and $|T(x)|=a|x|, |T(y)|=b|y|, aneq b$. We can assume $|x|=|y|=1$.
$$langle x+y,x-yrangle=0, langle T(x+y),T(x-y)rangle$$ $$ =langle T(x),T(x)rangle-langle T(x),T(y)rangle+langle T(y),T(x)rangle-langle T(y),T(y)rangle=a^2-b^2neq 0$$ contradiction.
Let $xneq 0$, $yin Vec(x)^{perp}$, $|T(x)|=c|x|, |T(y)|=c|y|$. For every $zin H$, $z=ux+vy, yin Vect(x)^{perp}$, implies $|T(z)|^2=|T(ux+vy)|^2=langle T(ux)+T(vy),T(ux)+T(vy)rangle=c^2|z|^2$.
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Suppose there exists $x,yneq 0$ with $langle x,yrangle =0$ and $|T(x)|=a|x|, |T(y)|=b|y|, aneq b$. We can assume $|x|=|y|=1$.
$$langle x+y,x-yrangle=0, langle T(x+y),T(x-y)rangle$$ $$ =langle T(x),T(x)rangle-langle T(x),T(y)rangle+langle T(y),T(x)rangle-langle T(y),T(y)rangle=a^2-b^2neq 0$$ contradiction.
Let $xneq 0$, $yin Vec(x)^{perp}$, $|T(x)|=c|x|, |T(y)|=c|y|$. For every $zin H$, $z=ux+vy, yin Vect(x)^{perp}$, implies $|T(z)|^2=|T(ux+vy)|^2=langle T(ux)+T(vy),T(ux)+T(vy)rangle=c^2|z|^2$.
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Suppose there exists $x,yneq 0$ with $langle x,yrangle =0$ and $|T(x)|=a|x|, |T(y)|=b|y|, aneq b$. We can assume $|x|=|y|=1$.
$$langle x+y,x-yrangle=0, langle T(x+y),T(x-y)rangle$$ $$ =langle T(x),T(x)rangle-langle T(x),T(y)rangle+langle T(y),T(x)rangle-langle T(y),T(y)rangle=a^2-b^2neq 0$$ contradiction.
Let $xneq 0$, $yin Vec(x)^{perp}$, $|T(x)|=c|x|, |T(y)|=c|y|$. For every $zin H$, $z=ux+vy, yin Vect(x)^{perp}$, implies $|T(z)|^2=|T(ux+vy)|^2=langle T(ux)+T(vy),T(ux)+T(vy)rangle=c^2|z|^2$.
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Suppose there exists $x,yneq 0$ with $langle x,yrangle =0$ and $|T(x)|=a|x|, |T(y)|=b|y|, aneq b$. We can assume $|x|=|y|=1$.
$$langle x+y,x-yrangle=0, langle T(x+y),T(x-y)rangle$$ $$ =langle T(x),T(x)rangle-langle T(x),T(y)rangle+langle T(y),T(x)rangle-langle T(y),T(y)rangle=a^2-b^2neq 0$$ contradiction.
Let $xneq 0$, $yin Vec(x)^{perp}$, $|T(x)|=c|x|, |T(y)|=c|y|$. For every $zin H$, $z=ux+vy, yin Vect(x)^{perp}$, implies $|T(z)|^2=|T(ux+vy)|^2=langle T(ux)+T(vy),T(ux)+T(vy)rangle=c^2|z|^2$.
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Assuming the statement you made at the end we can complete the proof as follows. We first show that $T$ is one-to-one unless it is the zero operator. Suppose $Tx =0, xneq 0$. Let $y neq0$. If $langle x,yrangle neq 0$ and $a= frac {langle x,yrangle } {|y|^{2}}$then $x-ay$ and $y$ are orthogonal. The hypothesis now tells us that $Ty=0$. On the other hand if $langle x,yrangle = 0$ then there exist $aneq 0, bneq 0$ such that $x-ay$ and $x-by$ are orthogonal which again gives $Ty=0$. Hence $T$ is the zero operator in which case we can take $c=0$. Thus $T neq 0$ implies $T$ is one-to -one. Let ${e_i}$ be an orthonormal basis (not necessarily countable). It follows that $|Te_i|$ is independent of $i$ (unless $T(e_i)=0$). Also $T(e_i)$ are orthogonal. This immediately gives the result with $c=|Te_i|$. Just expand any element in terms of the basis and use orthogonality of $T(e_i)$'s. [Proof of the fact that $ |Te_i |neq |Te_j |$ cannot occur: suppose $|Te_i |< |Te_j |$. Take $x =e_i,y=e_j, alpha =|Te_i |, beta =|Te_j |$. We get the contradiction that $langle e_i,e_jrangle neq 0$].
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We work in Hilbert space which not necessarely separable.
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– Student
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@Student Separability is not required for this arguement. Every Hilbert space has an orthonormal basis and any element of the space has an expansion in terms of the basis.
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Please I don't understand how do you use the following fact ''if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$ for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$'' to show the result.
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@Student I have added an explanation.
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Assuming the statement you made at the end we can complete the proof as follows. We first show that $T$ is one-to-one unless it is the zero operator. Suppose $Tx =0, xneq 0$. Let $y neq0$. If $langle x,yrangle neq 0$ and $a= frac {langle x,yrangle } {|y|^{2}}$then $x-ay$ and $y$ are orthogonal. The hypothesis now tells us that $Ty=0$. On the other hand if $langle x,yrangle = 0$ then there exist $aneq 0, bneq 0$ such that $x-ay$ and $x-by$ are orthogonal which again gives $Ty=0$. Hence $T$ is the zero operator in which case we can take $c=0$. Thus $T neq 0$ implies $T$ is one-to -one. Let ${e_i}$ be an orthonormal basis (not necessarily countable). It follows that $|Te_i|$ is independent of $i$ (unless $T(e_i)=0$). Also $T(e_i)$ are orthogonal. This immediately gives the result with $c=|Te_i|$. Just expand any element in terms of the basis and use orthogonality of $T(e_i)$'s. [Proof of the fact that $ |Te_i |neq |Te_j |$ cannot occur: suppose $|Te_i |< |Te_j |$. Take $x =e_i,y=e_j, alpha =|Te_i |, beta =|Te_j |$. We get the contradiction that $langle e_i,e_jrangle neq 0$].
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We work in Hilbert space which not necessarely separable.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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@Student Separability is not required for this arguement. Every Hilbert space has an orthonormal basis and any element of the space has an expansion in terms of the basis.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:03
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Please I don't understand how do you use the following fact ''if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$ for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$'' to show the result.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:16
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@Student I have added an explanation.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:26
add a comment |
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Assuming the statement you made at the end we can complete the proof as follows. We first show that $T$ is one-to-one unless it is the zero operator. Suppose $Tx =0, xneq 0$. Let $y neq0$. If $langle x,yrangle neq 0$ and $a= frac {langle x,yrangle } {|y|^{2}}$then $x-ay$ and $y$ are orthogonal. The hypothesis now tells us that $Ty=0$. On the other hand if $langle x,yrangle = 0$ then there exist $aneq 0, bneq 0$ such that $x-ay$ and $x-by$ are orthogonal which again gives $Ty=0$. Hence $T$ is the zero operator in which case we can take $c=0$. Thus $T neq 0$ implies $T$ is one-to -one. Let ${e_i}$ be an orthonormal basis (not necessarily countable). It follows that $|Te_i|$ is independent of $i$ (unless $T(e_i)=0$). Also $T(e_i)$ are orthogonal. This immediately gives the result with $c=|Te_i|$. Just expand any element in terms of the basis and use orthogonality of $T(e_i)$'s. [Proof of the fact that $ |Te_i |neq |Te_j |$ cannot occur: suppose $|Te_i |< |Te_j |$. Take $x =e_i,y=e_j, alpha =|Te_i |, beta =|Te_j |$. We get the contradiction that $langle e_i,e_jrangle neq 0$].
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Assuming the statement you made at the end we can complete the proof as follows. We first show that $T$ is one-to-one unless it is the zero operator. Suppose $Tx =0, xneq 0$. Let $y neq0$. If $langle x,yrangle neq 0$ and $a= frac {langle x,yrangle } {|y|^{2}}$then $x-ay$ and $y$ are orthogonal. The hypothesis now tells us that $Ty=0$. On the other hand if $langle x,yrangle = 0$ then there exist $aneq 0, bneq 0$ such that $x-ay$ and $x-by$ are orthogonal which again gives $Ty=0$. Hence $T$ is the zero operator in which case we can take $c=0$. Thus $T neq 0$ implies $T$ is one-to -one. Let ${e_i}$ be an orthonormal basis (not necessarily countable). It follows that $|Te_i|$ is independent of $i$ (unless $T(e_i)=0$). Also $T(e_i)$ are orthogonal. This immediately gives the result with $c=|Te_i|$. Just expand any element in terms of the basis and use orthogonality of $T(e_i)$'s. [Proof of the fact that $ |Te_i |neq |Te_j |$ cannot occur: suppose $|Te_i |< |Te_j |$. Take $x =e_i,y=e_j, alpha =|Te_i |, beta =|Te_j |$. We get the contradiction that $langle e_i,e_jrangle neq 0$].
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answered Jan 22 at 9:58


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We work in Hilbert space which not necessarely separable.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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@Student Separability is not required for this arguement. Every Hilbert space has an orthonormal basis and any element of the space has an expansion in terms of the basis.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:03
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Please I don't understand how do you use the following fact ''if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$ for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$'' to show the result.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:16
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@Student I have added an explanation.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:26
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1
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We work in Hilbert space which not necessarely separable.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
1
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@Student Separability is not required for this arguement. Every Hilbert space has an orthonormal basis and any element of the space has an expansion in terms of the basis.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:03
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Please I don't understand how do you use the following fact ''if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$ for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$'' to show the result.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:16
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@Student I have added an explanation.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:26
1
1
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We work in Hilbert space which not necessarely separable.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
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We work in Hilbert space which not necessarely separable.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:00
1
1
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@Student Separability is not required for this arguement. Every Hilbert space has an orthonormal basis and any element of the space has an expansion in terms of the basis.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:03
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@Student Separability is not required for this arguement. Every Hilbert space has an orthonormal basis and any element of the space has an expansion in terms of the basis.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:03
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Please I don't understand how do you use the following fact ''if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$ for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$'' to show the result.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:16
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Please I don't understand how do you use the following fact ''if there exist $x, yin Esetminus{0}$ such that $|Tx|=alpha|x|$ and $|Ty|=beta|y|$ for some $0<alpha< beta$, it can be seen that $langle x,yrangleneq0$'' to show the result.
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– Student
Jan 22 at 10:16
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@Student I have added an explanation.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:26
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@Student I have added an explanation.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 22 at 10:26
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This is the infinite-dimensional version of this property of conformal matrices.
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