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Number of ways of breaking a stick of length $ngeq1$ into $n$ pieces of unit length (at each step break one of the pieces with length $geq1$ into two pieces of integer lengths) is what?



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    The points to break are clear, now we only need to take an order on them to get a breaking strategy...
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    Can you please elaborate
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    Ok no need i get it now, answer should be (n-1)!, right ?
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    Take a stick of length 5, so [0-1-2-3-4-5], now the breaking points are 1,2,3,4, take a permutation say 1234 $to$ 4132, then break first in 4, then in 1, ... So we count permutations finally...
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    Excellent, well done!
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$begingroup$


Number of ways of breaking a stick of length $ngeq1$ into $n$ pieces of unit length (at each step break one of the pieces with length $geq1$ into two pieces of integer lengths) is what?



I couldn’t figure out how to approach this question, can someone help me out?










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    $begingroup$
    The points to break are clear, now we only need to take an order on them to get a breaking strategy...
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Jan 17 at 19:08










  • $begingroup$
    Can you please elaborate
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    – user601297
    Jan 17 at 19:09










  • $begingroup$
    Ok no need i get it now, answer should be (n-1)!, right ?
    $endgroup$
    – user601297
    Jan 17 at 19:11






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    $begingroup$
    Take a stick of length 5, so [0-1-2-3-4-5], now the breaking points are 1,2,3,4, take a permutation say 1234 $to$ 4132, then break first in 4, then in 1, ... So we count permutations finally...
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Jan 17 at 19:12










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    Excellent, well done!
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    – dan_fulea
    Jan 17 at 19:12














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Number of ways of breaking a stick of length $ngeq1$ into $n$ pieces of unit length (at each step break one of the pieces with length $geq1$ into two pieces of integer lengths) is what?



I couldn’t figure out how to approach this question, can someone help me out?










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Number of ways of breaking a stick of length $ngeq1$ into $n$ pieces of unit length (at each step break one of the pieces with length $geq1$ into two pieces of integer lengths) is what?



I couldn’t figure out how to approach this question, can someone help me out?







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    $begingroup$
    The points to break are clear, now we only need to take an order on them to get a breaking strategy...
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Jan 17 at 19:08










  • $begingroup$
    Can you please elaborate
    $endgroup$
    – user601297
    Jan 17 at 19:09










  • $begingroup$
    Ok no need i get it now, answer should be (n-1)!, right ?
    $endgroup$
    – user601297
    Jan 17 at 19:11






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Take a stick of length 5, so [0-1-2-3-4-5], now the breaking points are 1,2,3,4, take a permutation say 1234 $to$ 4132, then break first in 4, then in 1, ... So we count permutations finally...
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Jan 17 at 19:12










  • $begingroup$
    Excellent, well done!
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Jan 17 at 19:12














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The points to break are clear, now we only need to take an order on them to get a breaking strategy...
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Jan 17 at 19:08










  • $begingroup$
    Can you please elaborate
    $endgroup$
    – user601297
    Jan 17 at 19:09










  • $begingroup$
    Ok no need i get it now, answer should be (n-1)!, right ?
    $endgroup$
    – user601297
    Jan 17 at 19:11






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Take a stick of length 5, so [0-1-2-3-4-5], now the breaking points are 1,2,3,4, take a permutation say 1234 $to$ 4132, then break first in 4, then in 1, ... So we count permutations finally...
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Jan 17 at 19:12










  • $begingroup$
    Excellent, well done!
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Jan 17 at 19:12








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$begingroup$
The points to break are clear, now we only need to take an order on them to get a breaking strategy...
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Jan 17 at 19:08




$begingroup$
The points to break are clear, now we only need to take an order on them to get a breaking strategy...
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Jan 17 at 19:08












$begingroup$
Can you please elaborate
$endgroup$
– user601297
Jan 17 at 19:09




$begingroup$
Can you please elaborate
$endgroup$
– user601297
Jan 17 at 19:09












$begingroup$
Ok no need i get it now, answer should be (n-1)!, right ?
$endgroup$
– user601297
Jan 17 at 19:11




$begingroup$
Ok no need i get it now, answer should be (n-1)!, right ?
$endgroup$
– user601297
Jan 17 at 19:11




1




1




$begingroup$
Take a stick of length 5, so [0-1-2-3-4-5], now the breaking points are 1,2,3,4, take a permutation say 1234 $to$ 4132, then break first in 4, then in 1, ... So we count permutations finally...
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Jan 17 at 19:12




$begingroup$
Take a stick of length 5, so [0-1-2-3-4-5], now the breaking points are 1,2,3,4, take a permutation say 1234 $to$ 4132, then break first in 4, then in 1, ... So we count permutations finally...
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Jan 17 at 19:12












$begingroup$
Excellent, well done!
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Jan 17 at 19:12




$begingroup$
Excellent, well done!
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Jan 17 at 19:12










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