How many odd three-digits numbers are there whose all three digits are different

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I faced this problem on one test. I wrote my solution but then I found out that my solution is wrong, I still cannot find where my mistake is.
The problem says: How many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and their digits are all different.
Here is my approach:
We have three digits. Since the number should be odd, the last digit should be one of those numbers $1, 3, 5, 7, 9$. Now the second digits can be one of the digits: $0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9$ There are 10 different digits for the second digits, but since the digits should be different we cannot place 10 digits, but we can place 9 digits. And for the first digits we can place digits in the range $1...9$ but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits and we can place only 7 digits.
So my result is $7cdot9cdot5 = 315$
However the result is not correct, because there are $320$ odd three-digits numbers with different digits.
Can you point me where is my mistake, thanks in advance.
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I faced this problem on one test. I wrote my solution but then I found out that my solution is wrong, I still cannot find where my mistake is.
The problem says: How many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and their digits are all different.
Here is my approach:
We have three digits. Since the number should be odd, the last digit should be one of those numbers $1, 3, 5, 7, 9$. Now the second digits can be one of the digits: $0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9$ There are 10 different digits for the second digits, but since the digits should be different we cannot place 10 digits, but we can place 9 digits. And for the first digits we can place digits in the range $1...9$ but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits and we can place only 7 digits.
So my result is $7cdot9cdot5 = 315$
However the result is not correct, because there are $320$ odd three-digits numbers with different digits.
Can you point me where is my mistake, thanks in advance.
combinatorics number-theory
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The mistake is you might have used 0 for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:36
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I don't see why we cant use the 0 for the middle digit, number 503, 305, 307 are all valid for counting.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:39
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@someone123123 if you use 0 for the middle digit, you have 8 options available for the first digit. This gives 5 additional cases.
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– IanF1
Jul 9 '17 at 15:34
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To really pinpoint the problem: "For the first digits we can place digits in the range 1...9 [good so far] but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits [still good] and we can place only 7 digits [this is not correct!].".
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– Daniel Wagner
Jul 9 '17 at 23:19
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I faced this problem on one test. I wrote my solution but then I found out that my solution is wrong, I still cannot find where my mistake is.
The problem says: How many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and their digits are all different.
Here is my approach:
We have three digits. Since the number should be odd, the last digit should be one of those numbers $1, 3, 5, 7, 9$. Now the second digits can be one of the digits: $0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9$ There are 10 different digits for the second digits, but since the digits should be different we cannot place 10 digits, but we can place 9 digits. And for the first digits we can place digits in the range $1...9$ but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits and we can place only 7 digits.
So my result is $7cdot9cdot5 = 315$
However the result is not correct, because there are $320$ odd three-digits numbers with different digits.
Can you point me where is my mistake, thanks in advance.
combinatorics number-theory
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I faced this problem on one test. I wrote my solution but then I found out that my solution is wrong, I still cannot find where my mistake is.
The problem says: How many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and their digits are all different.
Here is my approach:
We have three digits. Since the number should be odd, the last digit should be one of those numbers $1, 3, 5, 7, 9$. Now the second digits can be one of the digits: $0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9$ There are 10 different digits for the second digits, but since the digits should be different we cannot place 10 digits, but we can place 9 digits. And for the first digits we can place digits in the range $1...9$ but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits and we can place only 7 digits.
So my result is $7cdot9cdot5 = 315$
However the result is not correct, because there are $320$ odd three-digits numbers with different digits.
Can you point me where is my mistake, thanks in advance.
combinatorics number-theory
combinatorics number-theory
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The mistake is you might have used 0 for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:36
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I don't see why we cant use the 0 for the middle digit, number 503, 305, 307 are all valid for counting.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:39
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@someone123123 if you use 0 for the middle digit, you have 8 options available for the first digit. This gives 5 additional cases.
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– IanF1
Jul 9 '17 at 15:34
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To really pinpoint the problem: "For the first digits we can place digits in the range 1...9 [good so far] but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits [still good] and we can place only 7 digits [this is not correct!].".
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– Daniel Wagner
Jul 9 '17 at 23:19
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The mistake is you might have used 0 for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:36
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I don't see why we cant use the 0 for the middle digit, number 503, 305, 307 are all valid for counting.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:39
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@someone123123 if you use 0 for the middle digit, you have 8 options available for the first digit. This gives 5 additional cases.
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– IanF1
Jul 9 '17 at 15:34
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To really pinpoint the problem: "For the first digits we can place digits in the range 1...9 [good so far] but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits [still good] and we can place only 7 digits [this is not correct!].".
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– Daniel Wagner
Jul 9 '17 at 23:19
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The mistake is you might have used 0 for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:36
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The mistake is you might have used 0 for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:36
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I don't see why we cant use the 0 for the middle digit, number 503, 305, 307 are all valid for counting.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:39
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I don't see why we cant use the 0 for the middle digit, number 503, 305, 307 are all valid for counting.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:39
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@someone123123 if you use 0 for the middle digit, you have 8 options available for the first digit. This gives 5 additional cases.
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– IanF1
Jul 9 '17 at 15:34
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@someone123123 if you use 0 for the middle digit, you have 8 options available for the first digit. This gives 5 additional cases.
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– IanF1
Jul 9 '17 at 15:34
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To really pinpoint the problem: "For the first digits we can place digits in the range 1...9 [good so far] but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits [still good] and we can place only 7 digits [this is not correct!].".
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– Daniel Wagner
Jul 9 '17 at 23:19
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To really pinpoint the problem: "For the first digits we can place digits in the range 1...9 [good so far] but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits [still good] and we can place only 7 digits [this is not correct!].".
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– Daniel Wagner
Jul 9 '17 at 23:19
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Problems of this type are often solved more simply if we place the digits in a suitable order, instead of necessarily left to right.
Here we'll place the digits in the order last-first-second, i.e. in the order $Units-Hundreds-Tens$
$5$ choices for the last digit (to make the number odd)
$8$ choices left for the first digit (since $0$ can't be used)
$8$ choices still left for the second digit (since $0$ is now available for use)
Thus, without breaking up into cases, we get $5cdot8cdot8 = 320$
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The mistake is you might have used $0$ for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
Case ($1$): Using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},1,{times},8=40$.
Case ($2$): Not using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},8,{times},7=280$.
So you get a total count of $40+280=320$.
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Thanks for the answer, but can you explain why having 0 for middle digits makes difference.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:44
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Because if you use $0$ for the middle digit, the leading digit has only two exclusions, not three.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:46
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Since this problem is only created by one single digit i.e. zero as you can't put zero on hundred's place like 013 which is not 3 digit number so when you put zero on the ten's place i.e. in the middle you will get 8 remaining digits for hundred place. Therefore we have two cases which are:
Case (1): Using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×1×8=40.
Case (2): Not using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×8×7=280.
So you get a total count of 40+280=320.
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Welcome to MSE. Your answer adds nothing new to the already existing answers.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 17 at 17:54
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Three digit odd numbers implies the numbers would only be made of digits 1 , 3 , 5 , 7 , 9
With repetition of digits we would have had 5 * 5 * 5 = 125
But for every hundreds, maximum of 4 tens is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digit used in hundreds)
And each of these 4 tens, maximum of 3 units is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digits used in tens)
5 * 4 * 3 = 60 is my answer
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I think you didn't understand the question, the question says how many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and they have three different digits. The first two digits don't have to be odd.
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– someone123123
Jul 12 '17 at 10:13
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Problems of this type are often solved more simply if we place the digits in a suitable order, instead of necessarily left to right.
Here we'll place the digits in the order last-first-second, i.e. in the order $Units-Hundreds-Tens$
$5$ choices for the last digit (to make the number odd)
$8$ choices left for the first digit (since $0$ can't be used)
$8$ choices still left for the second digit (since $0$ is now available for use)
Thus, without breaking up into cases, we get $5cdot8cdot8 = 320$
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Problems of this type are often solved more simply if we place the digits in a suitable order, instead of necessarily left to right.
Here we'll place the digits in the order last-first-second, i.e. in the order $Units-Hundreds-Tens$
$5$ choices for the last digit (to make the number odd)
$8$ choices left for the first digit (since $0$ can't be used)
$8$ choices still left for the second digit (since $0$ is now available for use)
Thus, without breaking up into cases, we get $5cdot8cdot8 = 320$
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Problems of this type are often solved more simply if we place the digits in a suitable order, instead of necessarily left to right.
Here we'll place the digits in the order last-first-second, i.e. in the order $Units-Hundreds-Tens$
$5$ choices for the last digit (to make the number odd)
$8$ choices left for the first digit (since $0$ can't be used)
$8$ choices still left for the second digit (since $0$ is now available for use)
Thus, without breaking up into cases, we get $5cdot8cdot8 = 320$
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Problems of this type are often solved more simply if we place the digits in a suitable order, instead of necessarily left to right.
Here we'll place the digits in the order last-first-second, i.e. in the order $Units-Hundreds-Tens$
$5$ choices for the last digit (to make the number odd)
$8$ choices left for the first digit (since $0$ can't be used)
$8$ choices still left for the second digit (since $0$ is now available for use)
Thus, without breaking up into cases, we get $5cdot8cdot8 = 320$
edited Jul 9 '17 at 15:15
answered Jul 9 '17 at 9:16
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The mistake is you might have used $0$ for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
Case ($1$): Using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},1,{times},8=40$.
Case ($2$): Not using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},8,{times},7=280$.
So you get a total count of $40+280=320$.
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Thanks for the answer, but can you explain why having 0 for middle digits makes difference.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:44
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Because if you use $0$ for the middle digit, the leading digit has only two exclusions, not three.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:46
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The mistake is you might have used $0$ for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
Case ($1$): Using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},1,{times},8=40$.
Case ($2$): Not using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},8,{times},7=280$.
So you get a total count of $40+280=320$.
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Thanks for the answer, but can you explain why having 0 for middle digits makes difference.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:44
6
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Because if you use $0$ for the middle digit, the leading digit has only two exclusions, not three.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:46
add a comment |
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The mistake is you might have used $0$ for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
Case ($1$): Using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},1,{times},8=40$.
Case ($2$): Not using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},8,{times},7=280$.
So you get a total count of $40+280=320$.
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The mistake is you might have used $0$ for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
Case ($1$): Using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},1,{times},8=40$.
Case ($2$): Not using $0$ for the middle digit:
$qquad$The count is $5,{times},8,{times},7=280$.
So you get a total count of $40+280=320$.
edited Jul 9 '17 at 8:45
answered Jul 9 '17 at 8:41
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Thanks for the answer, but can you explain why having 0 for middle digits makes difference.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:44
6
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Because if you use $0$ for the middle digit, the leading digit has only two exclusions, not three.
$endgroup$
– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:46
add a comment |
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Thanks for the answer, but can you explain why having 0 for middle digits makes difference.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:44
6
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Because if you use $0$ for the middle digit, the leading digit has only two exclusions, not three.
$endgroup$
– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:46
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Thanks for the answer, but can you explain why having 0 for middle digits makes difference.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:44
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Thanks for the answer, but can you explain why having 0 for middle digits makes difference.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:44
6
6
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Because if you use $0$ for the middle digit, the leading digit has only two exclusions, not three.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:46
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Because if you use $0$ for the middle digit, the leading digit has only two exclusions, not three.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:46
add a comment |
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Since this problem is only created by one single digit i.e. zero as you can't put zero on hundred's place like 013 which is not 3 digit number so when you put zero on the ten's place i.e. in the middle you will get 8 remaining digits for hundred place. Therefore we have two cases which are:
Case (1): Using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×1×8=40.
Case (2): Not using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×8×7=280.
So you get a total count of 40+280=320.
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Welcome to MSE. Your answer adds nothing new to the already existing answers.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 17 at 17:54
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Since this problem is only created by one single digit i.e. zero as you can't put zero on hundred's place like 013 which is not 3 digit number so when you put zero on the ten's place i.e. in the middle you will get 8 remaining digits for hundred place. Therefore we have two cases which are:
Case (1): Using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×1×8=40.
Case (2): Not using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×8×7=280.
So you get a total count of 40+280=320.
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Welcome to MSE. Your answer adds nothing new to the already existing answers.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 17 at 17:54
add a comment |
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Since this problem is only created by one single digit i.e. zero as you can't put zero on hundred's place like 013 which is not 3 digit number so when you put zero on the ten's place i.e. in the middle you will get 8 remaining digits for hundred place. Therefore we have two cases which are:
Case (1): Using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×1×8=40.
Case (2): Not using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×8×7=280.
So you get a total count of 40+280=320.
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Since this problem is only created by one single digit i.e. zero as you can't put zero on hundred's place like 013 which is not 3 digit number so when you put zero on the ten's place i.e. in the middle you will get 8 remaining digits for hundred place. Therefore we have two cases which are:
Case (1): Using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×1×8=40.
Case (2): Not using 0 for the middle digit.
The count is 5×8×7=280.
So you get a total count of 40+280=320.
answered Jan 17 at 17:26


AJ WARRIORAJ WARRIOR
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Welcome to MSE. Your answer adds nothing new to the already existing answers.
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– José Carlos Santos
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Welcome to MSE. Your answer adds nothing new to the already existing answers.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 17 at 17:54
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Welcome to MSE. Your answer adds nothing new to the already existing answers.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 17 at 17:54
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Three digit odd numbers implies the numbers would only be made of digits 1 , 3 , 5 , 7 , 9
With repetition of digits we would have had 5 * 5 * 5 = 125
But for every hundreds, maximum of 4 tens is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digit used in hundreds)
And each of these 4 tens, maximum of 3 units is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digits used in tens)
5 * 4 * 3 = 60 is my answer
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I think you didn't understand the question, the question says how many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and they have three different digits. The first two digits don't have to be odd.
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– someone123123
Jul 12 '17 at 10:13
add a comment |
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Three digit odd numbers implies the numbers would only be made of digits 1 , 3 , 5 , 7 , 9
With repetition of digits we would have had 5 * 5 * 5 = 125
But for every hundreds, maximum of 4 tens is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digit used in hundreds)
And each of these 4 tens, maximum of 3 units is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digits used in tens)
5 * 4 * 3 = 60 is my answer
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1
$begingroup$
I think you didn't understand the question, the question says how many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and they have three different digits. The first two digits don't have to be odd.
$endgroup$
– someone123123
Jul 12 '17 at 10:13
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Three digit odd numbers implies the numbers would only be made of digits 1 , 3 , 5 , 7 , 9
With repetition of digits we would have had 5 * 5 * 5 = 125
But for every hundreds, maximum of 4 tens is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digit used in hundreds)
And each of these 4 tens, maximum of 3 units is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digits used in tens)
5 * 4 * 3 = 60 is my answer
$endgroup$
Three digit odd numbers implies the numbers would only be made of digits 1 , 3 , 5 , 7 , 9
With repetition of digits we would have had 5 * 5 * 5 = 125
But for every hundreds, maximum of 4 tens is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digit used in hundreds)
And each of these 4 tens, maximum of 3 units is possible (avoiding the duplicate of digits used in tens)
5 * 4 * 3 = 60 is my answer
answered Jul 11 '17 at 21:57


korwalskiykorwalskiy
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I think you didn't understand the question, the question says how many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and they have three different digits. The first two digits don't have to be odd.
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– someone123123
Jul 12 '17 at 10:13
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1
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I think you didn't understand the question, the question says how many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and they have three different digits. The first two digits don't have to be odd.
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– someone123123
Jul 12 '17 at 10:13
1
1
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I think you didn't understand the question, the question says how many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and they have three different digits. The first two digits don't have to be odd.
$endgroup$
– someone123123
Jul 12 '17 at 10:13
$begingroup$
I think you didn't understand the question, the question says how many three-digits numbers are there such that they are odd and they have three different digits. The first two digits don't have to be odd.
$endgroup$
– someone123123
Jul 12 '17 at 10:13
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The mistake is you might have used 0 for the middle digit. So there are two cases.
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– quasi
Jul 9 '17 at 8:36
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I don't see why we cant use the 0 for the middle digit, number 503, 305, 307 are all valid for counting.
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– someone123123
Jul 9 '17 at 8:39
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@someone123123 if you use 0 for the middle digit, you have 8 options available for the first digit. This gives 5 additional cases.
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– IanF1
Jul 9 '17 at 15:34
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To really pinpoint the problem: "For the first digits we can place digits in the range 1...9 [good so far] but we cannot place the digits that are used in the two other digits [still good] and we can place only 7 digits [this is not correct!].".
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– Daniel Wagner
Jul 9 '17 at 23:19