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I noticed when trying to make a string of 6 circ symbols that the last one is closer to the one beside it than the rest of them, after playing with it for a while it looks like an even number (greater than 2) of circ causes this, how can I fix the spacing so it is even?



Example:



documentclass{article}
begin{document}
1 circ: $circ $

2 circ: $circ circ $

3 circ: $circ circ circ$

4 circ: $circ circ circ circ$

5 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ $

6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ $

7 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ circ $

end{document}


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    One way is to make circ not a binary/relational operator. Use {circ}

    – Sigur
    Jan 16 at 21:44











  • ... red circ, blue circ. :-)

    – Mees de Vries
    Jan 16 at 23:57
















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I noticed when trying to make a string of 6 circ symbols that the last one is closer to the one beside it than the rest of them, after playing with it for a while it looks like an even number (greater than 2) of circ causes this, how can I fix the spacing so it is even?



Example:



documentclass{article}
begin{document}
1 circ: $circ $

2 circ: $circ circ $

3 circ: $circ circ circ$

4 circ: $circ circ circ circ$

5 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ $

6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ $

7 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ circ $

end{document}


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    One way is to make circ not a binary/relational operator. Use {circ}

    – Sigur
    Jan 16 at 21:44











  • ... red circ, blue circ. :-)

    – Mees de Vries
    Jan 16 at 23:57














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I noticed when trying to make a string of 6 circ symbols that the last one is closer to the one beside it than the rest of them, after playing with it for a while it looks like an even number (greater than 2) of circ causes this, how can I fix the spacing so it is even?



Example:



documentclass{article}
begin{document}
1 circ: $circ $

2 circ: $circ circ $

3 circ: $circ circ circ$

4 circ: $circ circ circ circ$

5 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ $

6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ $

7 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ circ $

end{document}


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I noticed when trying to make a string of 6 circ symbols that the last one is closer to the one beside it than the rest of them, after playing with it for a while it looks like an even number (greater than 2) of circ causes this, how can I fix the spacing so it is even?



Example:



documentclass{article}
begin{document}
1 circ: $circ $

2 circ: $circ circ $

3 circ: $circ circ circ$

4 circ: $circ circ circ circ$

5 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ $

6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ $

7 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ circ $

end{document}


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  • 1





    One way is to make circ not a binary/relational operator. Use {circ}

    – Sigur
    Jan 16 at 21:44











  • ... red circ, blue circ. :-)

    – Mees de Vries
    Jan 16 at 23:57














  • 1





    One way is to make circ not a binary/relational operator. Use {circ}

    – Sigur
    Jan 16 at 21:44











  • ... red circ, blue circ. :-)

    – Mees de Vries
    Jan 16 at 23:57








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One way is to make circ not a binary/relational operator. Use {circ}

– Sigur
Jan 16 at 21:44





One way is to make circ not a binary/relational operator. Use {circ}

– Sigur
Jan 16 at 21:44













... red circ, blue circ. :-)

– Mees de Vries
Jan 16 at 23:57





... red circ, blue circ. :-)

– Mees de Vries
Jan 16 at 23:57










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From the TeXbook (page 187, solution on page 326)




Exercise 19.7

B. L. User tried typing ‘eqno(*)’ and ‘eqno(**)’,
and he was pleased to discover that this produced the equation numbers
‘(∗)’ and ‘(∗∗)’. [He had been a bit worried that they would come out
‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’ instead.] But then a few months later he tried
eqno(***)’ and got a surprise. What was it?



When you type an asterisk in math mode, plain TeX considers
* to be a binary operation. In the cases ‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’, the
binary operations are converted to type Ord, because they don't appear in
a binary context; but the middle asterisk in ‘(***)’ remains of type Bin.
So the result was ‘(∗ ∗ ∗)’. To avoid the extra medium spaces, you can
type ‘eqno(*{*}*)’; or you can change mathcode`*, if you never use
* as a binary operation.




It doesn't matter if we're in an equation number (eqno); the main issue is math mode where the behavior shows. Since circ is a binary operation symbol just like *, you get the same.



If you want evenly spaced circ symbols you can use



{circ};{circ};{circ};{circ}


Even better, define a suitable command:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{xparse}

ExplSyntaxOn
NewDocumentCommand{circs}{m}
{
ensuremath
{{
{circ}prg_replicate:nn { #1 - 1 } { ; {circ} }
}}
}
ExplSyntaxOff

begin{document}

$circs{1}$

$circs{2}$

$circs{3}$

$circs{4}$

$circs{5}$

$circs{6}$

$circs{7}$

end{document}


enter image description here






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  • Great explanation (and excercise too)!

    – manooooh
    Jan 16 at 22:09






  • 1





    @manooooh That's due to Knuth. ;-)

    – egreg
    Jan 16 at 22:09



















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When you issue showcirc you'll see it defined as mathchar"220E. The first number in this definition points to the intrinsic "format" of the character. 2 denotes a binary operator which has a specific spacing around. So, circ is considered a binary operator and therefore expects operands on either side. Odd-numbered circs show better alignment as they supply "operands" on either side (barring accommodation for uniform spacing around consecutive circs):



enter image description here



documentclass{article}

begin{document}

1 circ: $circ$

2 circ: $circ circ$

2 circ: $circ circ {}$

3 circ: $circ circ circ$

4 circ: $circ circ circ circ$

4 circ: $circ circ circ circ {}$

5 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ $

6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ$

6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ {}$

7 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ circ$

end{document}


If you just want to list a number of circs with the correct spacing, consider adding a empty math group at the end when using an even number of circs. Alternatively, use {circ} or mathord{circ} to avoid the surrounding space; mathord turns its argument into a math ordinal.






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    From the TeXbook (page 187, solution on page 326)




    Exercise 19.7

    B. L. User tried typing ‘eqno(*)’ and ‘eqno(**)’,
    and he was pleased to discover that this produced the equation numbers
    ‘(∗)’ and ‘(∗∗)’. [He had been a bit worried that they would come out
    ‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’ instead.] But then a few months later he tried
    eqno(***)’ and got a surprise. What was it?



    When you type an asterisk in math mode, plain TeX considers
    * to be a binary operation. In the cases ‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’, the
    binary operations are converted to type Ord, because they don't appear in
    a binary context; but the middle asterisk in ‘(***)’ remains of type Bin.
    So the result was ‘(∗ ∗ ∗)’. To avoid the extra medium spaces, you can
    type ‘eqno(*{*}*)’; or you can change mathcode`*, if you never use
    * as a binary operation.




    It doesn't matter if we're in an equation number (eqno); the main issue is math mode where the behavior shows. Since circ is a binary operation symbol just like *, you get the same.



    If you want evenly spaced circ symbols you can use



    {circ};{circ};{circ};{circ}


    Even better, define a suitable command:



    documentclass{article}
    usepackage{xparse}

    ExplSyntaxOn
    NewDocumentCommand{circs}{m}
    {
    ensuremath
    {{
    {circ}prg_replicate:nn { #1 - 1 } { ; {circ} }
    }}
    }
    ExplSyntaxOff

    begin{document}

    $circs{1}$

    $circs{2}$

    $circs{3}$

    $circs{4}$

    $circs{5}$

    $circs{6}$

    $circs{7}$

    end{document}


    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer


























    • Great explanation (and excercise too)!

      – manooooh
      Jan 16 at 22:09






    • 1





      @manooooh That's due to Knuth. ;-)

      – egreg
      Jan 16 at 22:09
















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    From the TeXbook (page 187, solution on page 326)




    Exercise 19.7

    B. L. User tried typing ‘eqno(*)’ and ‘eqno(**)’,
    and he was pleased to discover that this produced the equation numbers
    ‘(∗)’ and ‘(∗∗)’. [He had been a bit worried that they would come out
    ‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’ instead.] But then a few months later he tried
    eqno(***)’ and got a surprise. What was it?



    When you type an asterisk in math mode, plain TeX considers
    * to be a binary operation. In the cases ‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’, the
    binary operations are converted to type Ord, because they don't appear in
    a binary context; but the middle asterisk in ‘(***)’ remains of type Bin.
    So the result was ‘(∗ ∗ ∗)’. To avoid the extra medium spaces, you can
    type ‘eqno(*{*}*)’; or you can change mathcode`*, if you never use
    * as a binary operation.




    It doesn't matter if we're in an equation number (eqno); the main issue is math mode where the behavior shows. Since circ is a binary operation symbol just like *, you get the same.



    If you want evenly spaced circ symbols you can use



    {circ};{circ};{circ};{circ}


    Even better, define a suitable command:



    documentclass{article}
    usepackage{xparse}

    ExplSyntaxOn
    NewDocumentCommand{circs}{m}
    {
    ensuremath
    {{
    {circ}prg_replicate:nn { #1 - 1 } { ; {circ} }
    }}
    }
    ExplSyntaxOff

    begin{document}

    $circs{1}$

    $circs{2}$

    $circs{3}$

    $circs{4}$

    $circs{5}$

    $circs{6}$

    $circs{7}$

    end{document}


    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer


























    • Great explanation (and excercise too)!

      – manooooh
      Jan 16 at 22:09






    • 1





      @manooooh That's due to Knuth. ;-)

      – egreg
      Jan 16 at 22:09














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    From the TeXbook (page 187, solution on page 326)




    Exercise 19.7

    B. L. User tried typing ‘eqno(*)’ and ‘eqno(**)’,
    and he was pleased to discover that this produced the equation numbers
    ‘(∗)’ and ‘(∗∗)’. [He had been a bit worried that they would come out
    ‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’ instead.] But then a few months later he tried
    eqno(***)’ and got a surprise. What was it?



    When you type an asterisk in math mode, plain TeX considers
    * to be a binary operation. In the cases ‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’, the
    binary operations are converted to type Ord, because they don't appear in
    a binary context; but the middle asterisk in ‘(***)’ remains of type Bin.
    So the result was ‘(∗ ∗ ∗)’. To avoid the extra medium spaces, you can
    type ‘eqno(*{*}*)’; or you can change mathcode`*, if you never use
    * as a binary operation.




    It doesn't matter if we're in an equation number (eqno); the main issue is math mode where the behavior shows. Since circ is a binary operation symbol just like *, you get the same.



    If you want evenly spaced circ symbols you can use



    {circ};{circ};{circ};{circ}


    Even better, define a suitable command:



    documentclass{article}
    usepackage{xparse}

    ExplSyntaxOn
    NewDocumentCommand{circs}{m}
    {
    ensuremath
    {{
    {circ}prg_replicate:nn { #1 - 1 } { ; {circ} }
    }}
    }
    ExplSyntaxOff

    begin{document}

    $circs{1}$

    $circs{2}$

    $circs{3}$

    $circs{4}$

    $circs{5}$

    $circs{6}$

    $circs{7}$

    end{document}


    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer















    From the TeXbook (page 187, solution on page 326)




    Exercise 19.7

    B. L. User tried typing ‘eqno(*)’ and ‘eqno(**)’,
    and he was pleased to discover that this produced the equation numbers
    ‘(∗)’ and ‘(∗∗)’. [He had been a bit worried that they would come out
    ‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’ instead.] But then a few months later he tried
    eqno(***)’ and got a surprise. What was it?



    When you type an asterisk in math mode, plain TeX considers
    * to be a binary operation. In the cases ‘(*)’ and ‘(**)’, the
    binary operations are converted to type Ord, because they don't appear in
    a binary context; but the middle asterisk in ‘(***)’ remains of type Bin.
    So the result was ‘(∗ ∗ ∗)’. To avoid the extra medium spaces, you can
    type ‘eqno(*{*}*)’; or you can change mathcode`*, if you never use
    * as a binary operation.




    It doesn't matter if we're in an equation number (eqno); the main issue is math mode where the behavior shows. Since circ is a binary operation symbol just like *, you get the same.



    If you want evenly spaced circ symbols you can use



    {circ};{circ};{circ};{circ}


    Even better, define a suitable command:



    documentclass{article}
    usepackage{xparse}

    ExplSyntaxOn
    NewDocumentCommand{circs}{m}
    {
    ensuremath
    {{
    {circ}prg_replicate:nn { #1 - 1 } { ; {circ} }
    }}
    }
    ExplSyntaxOff

    begin{document}

    $circs{1}$

    $circs{2}$

    $circs{3}$

    $circs{4}$

    $circs{5}$

    $circs{6}$

    $circs{7}$

    end{document}


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    • Great explanation (and excercise too)!

      – manooooh
      Jan 16 at 22:09






    • 1





      @manooooh That's due to Knuth. ;-)

      – egreg
      Jan 16 at 22:09



















    • Great explanation (and excercise too)!

      – manooooh
      Jan 16 at 22:09






    • 1





      @manooooh That's due to Knuth. ;-)

      – egreg
      Jan 16 at 22:09

















    Great explanation (and excercise too)!

    – manooooh
    Jan 16 at 22:09





    Great explanation (and excercise too)!

    – manooooh
    Jan 16 at 22:09




    1




    1





    @manooooh That's due to Knuth. ;-)

    – egreg
    Jan 16 at 22:09





    @manooooh That's due to Knuth. ;-)

    – egreg
    Jan 16 at 22:09











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    When you issue showcirc you'll see it defined as mathchar"220E. The first number in this definition points to the intrinsic "format" of the character. 2 denotes a binary operator which has a specific spacing around. So, circ is considered a binary operator and therefore expects operands on either side. Odd-numbered circs show better alignment as they supply "operands" on either side (barring accommodation for uniform spacing around consecutive circs):



    enter image description here



    documentclass{article}

    begin{document}

    1 circ: $circ$

    2 circ: $circ circ$

    2 circ: $circ circ {}$

    3 circ: $circ circ circ$

    4 circ: $circ circ circ circ$

    4 circ: $circ circ circ circ {}$

    5 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ $

    6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ$

    6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ {}$

    7 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ circ$

    end{document}


    If you just want to list a number of circs with the correct spacing, consider adding a empty math group at the end when using an even number of circs. Alternatively, use {circ} or mathord{circ} to avoid the surrounding space; mathord turns its argument into a math ordinal.






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      When you issue showcirc you'll see it defined as mathchar"220E. The first number in this definition points to the intrinsic "format" of the character. 2 denotes a binary operator which has a specific spacing around. So, circ is considered a binary operator and therefore expects operands on either side. Odd-numbered circs show better alignment as they supply "operands" on either side (barring accommodation for uniform spacing around consecutive circs):



      enter image description here



      documentclass{article}

      begin{document}

      1 circ: $circ$

      2 circ: $circ circ$

      2 circ: $circ circ {}$

      3 circ: $circ circ circ$

      4 circ: $circ circ circ circ$

      4 circ: $circ circ circ circ {}$

      5 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ $

      6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ$

      6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ {}$

      7 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ circ$

      end{document}


      If you just want to list a number of circs with the correct spacing, consider adding a empty math group at the end when using an even number of circs. Alternatively, use {circ} or mathord{circ} to avoid the surrounding space; mathord turns its argument into a math ordinal.






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        When you issue showcirc you'll see it defined as mathchar"220E. The first number in this definition points to the intrinsic "format" of the character. 2 denotes a binary operator which has a specific spacing around. So, circ is considered a binary operator and therefore expects operands on either side. Odd-numbered circs show better alignment as they supply "operands" on either side (barring accommodation for uniform spacing around consecutive circs):



        enter image description here



        documentclass{article}

        begin{document}

        1 circ: $circ$

        2 circ: $circ circ$

        2 circ: $circ circ {}$

        3 circ: $circ circ circ$

        4 circ: $circ circ circ circ$

        4 circ: $circ circ circ circ {}$

        5 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ $

        6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ$

        6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ {}$

        7 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ circ$

        end{document}


        If you just want to list a number of circs with the correct spacing, consider adding a empty math group at the end when using an even number of circs. Alternatively, use {circ} or mathord{circ} to avoid the surrounding space; mathord turns its argument into a math ordinal.






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        When you issue showcirc you'll see it defined as mathchar"220E. The first number in this definition points to the intrinsic "format" of the character. 2 denotes a binary operator which has a specific spacing around. So, circ is considered a binary operator and therefore expects operands on either side. Odd-numbered circs show better alignment as they supply "operands" on either side (barring accommodation for uniform spacing around consecutive circs):



        enter image description here



        documentclass{article}

        begin{document}

        1 circ: $circ$

        2 circ: $circ circ$

        2 circ: $circ circ {}$

        3 circ: $circ circ circ$

        4 circ: $circ circ circ circ$

        4 circ: $circ circ circ circ {}$

        5 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ $

        6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ$

        6 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ {}$

        7 circ: $circ circ circ circ circ circ circ$

        end{document}


        If you just want to list a number of circs with the correct spacing, consider adding a empty math group at the end when using an even number of circs. Alternatively, use {circ} or mathord{circ} to avoid the surrounding space; mathord turns its argument into a math ordinal.







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