Compactness and connectedness in $Bbb R^3$












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Consider the set $$A=left{ begin{pmatrix} x\y\zend{pmatrix} in Bbb R^3: z=x^2+y^2+1right} subset Bbb R^3$$



Prove of disprove: $A$ is connected and compact




The set $A$ is unbounded, since $(sqrt{n},sqrt{n},2n+1)^tin A$ with $$d(textbf{0},(sqrt{n},sqrt{n},2n+1))=sqrt{2n+(2n+1)^2}>n$$ where $textbf{0}$ denotes the origin in $Bbb R^3$ and $n in Bbb N$. So $A$ is not compact.



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    You're correct, it's not compact as not bounded.
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    For connectedness, try to visualize what this shape looks like. It's a bit like a truncated cone (like the tip was chopped off). It looks connected to me. Do you remember how to prove connectedness?
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    For connectedness, try writing your set as the image of a function from $Bbb{R}^2$ to $Bbb{R}^3$, and use the fact that the image of a connected set under a continuous map is connected.
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    Connectedness comes from the ability to connect two arbitrary points on that surface with a continuous path. This is a surface of revolution, so you should be able to parametrize it in polar coordinate. That should make it super easy to then connect 2 points by a path.
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    @greelious: Is this function(?) works ? $$f:(x,y) mapsto (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$$
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Consider the set $$A=left{ begin{pmatrix} x\y\zend{pmatrix} in Bbb R^3: z=x^2+y^2+1right} subset Bbb R^3$$



Prove of disprove: $A$ is connected and compact




The set $A$ is unbounded, since $(sqrt{n},sqrt{n},2n+1)^tin A$ with $$d(textbf{0},(sqrt{n},sqrt{n},2n+1))=sqrt{2n+(2n+1)^2}>n$$ where $textbf{0}$ denotes the origin in $Bbb R^3$ and $n in Bbb N$. So $A$ is not compact.



Is this correct ? How about connectedness? Can I have a hint?










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    $begingroup$
    You're correct, it's not compact as not bounded.
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    – Stefan Lafon
    Jan 24 at 4:01










  • $begingroup$
    For connectedness, try to visualize what this shape looks like. It's a bit like a truncated cone (like the tip was chopped off). It looks connected to me. Do you remember how to prove connectedness?
    $endgroup$
    – Stefan Lafon
    Jan 24 at 4:02






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    $begingroup$
    For connectedness, try writing your set as the image of a function from $Bbb{R}^2$ to $Bbb{R}^3$, and use the fact that the image of a connected set under a continuous map is connected.
    $endgroup$
    – greelious
    Jan 24 at 4:03










  • $begingroup$
    Connectedness comes from the ability to connect two arbitrary points on that surface with a continuous path. This is a surface of revolution, so you should be able to parametrize it in polar coordinate. That should make it super easy to then connect 2 points by a path.
    $endgroup$
    – Stefan Lafon
    Jan 24 at 4:04






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    $begingroup$
    @greelious: Is this function(?) works ? $$f:(x,y) mapsto (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$$
    $endgroup$
    – Chinnapparaj R
    Jan 24 at 4:11
















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Consider the set $$A=left{ begin{pmatrix} x\y\zend{pmatrix} in Bbb R^3: z=x^2+y^2+1right} subset Bbb R^3$$



Prove of disprove: $A$ is connected and compact




The set $A$ is unbounded, since $(sqrt{n},sqrt{n},2n+1)^tin A$ with $$d(textbf{0},(sqrt{n},sqrt{n},2n+1))=sqrt{2n+(2n+1)^2}>n$$ where $textbf{0}$ denotes the origin in $Bbb R^3$ and $n in Bbb N$. So $A$ is not compact.



Is this correct ? How about connectedness? Can I have a hint?










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Consider the set $$A=left{ begin{pmatrix} x\y\zend{pmatrix} in Bbb R^3: z=x^2+y^2+1right} subset Bbb R^3$$



Prove of disprove: $A$ is connected and compact




The set $A$ is unbounded, since $(sqrt{n},sqrt{n},2n+1)^tin A$ with $$d(textbf{0},(sqrt{n},sqrt{n},2n+1))=sqrt{2n+(2n+1)^2}>n$$ where $textbf{0}$ denotes the origin in $Bbb R^3$ and $n in Bbb N$. So $A$ is not compact.



Is this correct ? How about connectedness? Can I have a hint?







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    You're correct, it's not compact as not bounded.
    $endgroup$
    – Stefan Lafon
    Jan 24 at 4:01










  • $begingroup$
    For connectedness, try to visualize what this shape looks like. It's a bit like a truncated cone (like the tip was chopped off). It looks connected to me. Do you remember how to prove connectedness?
    $endgroup$
    – Stefan Lafon
    Jan 24 at 4:02






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    For connectedness, try writing your set as the image of a function from $Bbb{R}^2$ to $Bbb{R}^3$, and use the fact that the image of a connected set under a continuous map is connected.
    $endgroup$
    – greelious
    Jan 24 at 4:03










  • $begingroup$
    Connectedness comes from the ability to connect two arbitrary points on that surface with a continuous path. This is a surface of revolution, so you should be able to parametrize it in polar coordinate. That should make it super easy to then connect 2 points by a path.
    $endgroup$
    – Stefan Lafon
    Jan 24 at 4:04






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @greelious: Is this function(?) works ? $$f:(x,y) mapsto (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$$
    $endgroup$
    – Chinnapparaj R
    Jan 24 at 4:11
















  • 1




    $begingroup$
    You're correct, it's not compact as not bounded.
    $endgroup$
    – Stefan Lafon
    Jan 24 at 4:01










  • $begingroup$
    For connectedness, try to visualize what this shape looks like. It's a bit like a truncated cone (like the tip was chopped off). It looks connected to me. Do you remember how to prove connectedness?
    $endgroup$
    – Stefan Lafon
    Jan 24 at 4:02






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    For connectedness, try writing your set as the image of a function from $Bbb{R}^2$ to $Bbb{R}^3$, and use the fact that the image of a connected set under a continuous map is connected.
    $endgroup$
    – greelious
    Jan 24 at 4:03










  • $begingroup$
    Connectedness comes from the ability to connect two arbitrary points on that surface with a continuous path. This is a surface of revolution, so you should be able to parametrize it in polar coordinate. That should make it super easy to then connect 2 points by a path.
    $endgroup$
    – Stefan Lafon
    Jan 24 at 4:04






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @greelious: Is this function(?) works ? $$f:(x,y) mapsto (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$$
    $endgroup$
    – Chinnapparaj R
    Jan 24 at 4:11










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You're correct, it's not compact as not bounded.
$endgroup$
– Stefan Lafon
Jan 24 at 4:01




$begingroup$
You're correct, it's not compact as not bounded.
$endgroup$
– Stefan Lafon
Jan 24 at 4:01












$begingroup$
For connectedness, try to visualize what this shape looks like. It's a bit like a truncated cone (like the tip was chopped off). It looks connected to me. Do you remember how to prove connectedness?
$endgroup$
– Stefan Lafon
Jan 24 at 4:02




$begingroup$
For connectedness, try to visualize what this shape looks like. It's a bit like a truncated cone (like the tip was chopped off). It looks connected to me. Do you remember how to prove connectedness?
$endgroup$
– Stefan Lafon
Jan 24 at 4:02




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$begingroup$
For connectedness, try writing your set as the image of a function from $Bbb{R}^2$ to $Bbb{R}^3$, and use the fact that the image of a connected set under a continuous map is connected.
$endgroup$
– greelious
Jan 24 at 4:03




$begingroup$
For connectedness, try writing your set as the image of a function from $Bbb{R}^2$ to $Bbb{R}^3$, and use the fact that the image of a connected set under a continuous map is connected.
$endgroup$
– greelious
Jan 24 at 4:03












$begingroup$
Connectedness comes from the ability to connect two arbitrary points on that surface with a continuous path. This is a surface of revolution, so you should be able to parametrize it in polar coordinate. That should make it super easy to then connect 2 points by a path.
$endgroup$
– Stefan Lafon
Jan 24 at 4:04




$begingroup$
Connectedness comes from the ability to connect two arbitrary points on that surface with a continuous path. This is a surface of revolution, so you should be able to parametrize it in polar coordinate. That should make it super easy to then connect 2 points by a path.
$endgroup$
– Stefan Lafon
Jan 24 at 4:04




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$begingroup$
@greelious: Is this function(?) works ? $$f:(x,y) mapsto (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$$
$endgroup$
– Chinnapparaj R
Jan 24 at 4:11






$begingroup$
@greelious: Is this function(?) works ? $$f:(x,y) mapsto (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$$
$endgroup$
– Chinnapparaj R
Jan 24 at 4:11












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The continuous map $f : mathbb{R}^2 to mathbb{R}^3, f(x,y) = (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$, establishes a homeomorphism between $mathbb{R}^2$ and $A = f(mathbb{R}^2)$. If $p : mathbb{R}^3 to mathbb{R}^2, p(x,y,z) = (x,y)$ denotes the (continuous!) projection, then $p mid_A : A to mathbb{R}^2$ is the inverse homeomorphism. This shows that $A$ is connected but not compact.






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The continuous map $f : mathbb{R}^2 to mathbb{R}^3, f(x,y) = (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$, establishes a homeomorphism between $mathbb{R}^2$ and $A = f(mathbb{R}^2)$. If $p : mathbb{R}^3 to mathbb{R}^2, p(x,y,z) = (x,y)$ denotes the (continuous!) projection, then $p mid_A : A to mathbb{R}^2$ is the inverse homeomorphism. This shows that $A$ is connected but not compact.






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The continuous map $f : mathbb{R}^2 to mathbb{R}^3, f(x,y) = (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$, establishes a homeomorphism between $mathbb{R}^2$ and $A = f(mathbb{R}^2)$. If $p : mathbb{R}^3 to mathbb{R}^2, p(x,y,z) = (x,y)$ denotes the (continuous!) projection, then $p mid_A : A to mathbb{R}^2$ is the inverse homeomorphism. This shows that $A$ is connected but not compact.






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The continuous map $f : mathbb{R}^2 to mathbb{R}^3, f(x,y) = (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$, establishes a homeomorphism between $mathbb{R}^2$ and $A = f(mathbb{R}^2)$. If $p : mathbb{R}^3 to mathbb{R}^2, p(x,y,z) = (x,y)$ denotes the (continuous!) projection, then $p mid_A : A to mathbb{R}^2$ is the inverse homeomorphism. This shows that $A$ is connected but not compact.






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The continuous map $f : mathbb{R}^2 to mathbb{R}^3, f(x,y) = (x,y,x^2+y^2+1)$, establishes a homeomorphism between $mathbb{R}^2$ and $A = f(mathbb{R}^2)$. If $p : mathbb{R}^3 to mathbb{R}^2, p(x,y,z) = (x,y)$ denotes the (continuous!) projection, then $p mid_A : A to mathbb{R}^2$ is the inverse homeomorphism. This shows that $A$ is connected but not compact.







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