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Suppose an ellipsoid given by ${{(x,y,z)| {x^{2}+frac{y^{2}}{4}+frac{z^{2}}{9}}}=1}$, find the area of the orthogonal projection of the ellipsoid on the plane ${2x+4y-5z=10}$.



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    Presumably you meant $x^2+y^2/4+z^2/9le1$ since otherwise your set-building expression is meaningless. Think about what the outline of the projected image is.
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Suppose an ellipsoid given by ${{(x,y,z)| {x^{2}+frac{y^{2}}{4}+frac{z^{2}}{9}}}=1}$, find the area of the orthogonal projection of the ellipsoid on the plane ${2x+4y-5z=10}$.



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    Presumably you meant $x^2+y^2/4+z^2/9le1$ since otherwise your set-building expression is meaningless. Think about what the outline of the projected image is.
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Suppose an ellipsoid given by ${{(x,y,z)| {x^{2}+frac{y^{2}}{4}+frac{z^{2}}{9}}}=1}$, find the area of the orthogonal projection of the ellipsoid on the plane ${2x+4y-5z=10}$.



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Suppose an ellipsoid given by ${{(x,y,z)| {x^{2}+frac{y^{2}}{4}+frac{z^{2}}{9}}}=1}$, find the area of the orthogonal projection of the ellipsoid on the plane ${2x+4y-5z=10}$.



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    Presumably you meant $x^2+y^2/4+z^2/9le1$ since otherwise your set-building expression is meaningless. Think about what the outline of the projected image is.
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    Presumably you meant $x^2+y^2/4+z^2/9le1$ since otherwise your set-building expression is meaningless. Think about what the outline of the projected image is.
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    Jan 14 at 21:10








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Presumably you meant $x^2+y^2/4+z^2/9le1$ since otherwise your set-building expression is meaningless. Think about what the outline of the projected image is.
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Presumably you meant $x^2+y^2/4+z^2/9le1$ since otherwise your set-building expression is meaningless. Think about what the outline of the projected image is.
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Given the ellipsoid



$$
Cto p'Mp=1, p = (x,y,z), M = mbox{diag}left({1,frac 14, frac 19}right)
$$



and the plane



$$
Pito(p-p_0)cdotvec v, vec v = (2,4,-5)
$$



the line



$$
Lto p=p_1+lambda vec v
$$



is by construction, orthogonal to $Pi$. Now making



$$
(p_1+lambdavec v)'M(p_1+lambdavec v)=1
$$



and solving for $lambda$ we have



$$
lambda = frac{-2p_1'Mvec vpm 2sqrt{(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)}}{2vec v'Mvec v}
$$



but if $L$ is tangent to $C$ then



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0
$$



now assuming that $p_1'$ is the generic tangency point, the sought projection is given by the solution



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0\
(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0
$$



for $p_1$



which eliminating $z$ gives



$$
7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700
$$



this is the trace projection on the $z=0$ plane. Eliminating the $x y$ term with a convenient rotation we get



$$
(1973 + sqrt{749929}) X^2 + (1973-sqrt{749929}) Y^2 = 3880
$$



with main axes



$$
r_X=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973+sqrt{749929}}}\
r_Y=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973-sqrt{749929}}}
$$



so the projected area is given by



$$
S_p = pi r_X r_Y = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{9}
$$



but



$$
S_p = S left(frac{vec v}{||vec v||}cdot hat e_zright)
$$



hence



$$
S = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{45}
$$



Attached the problem setup



enter image description here



In lightblue $(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0$ in light red $(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0$ and in light yellow $7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700$






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    What about the area? Aren't we supposed to make a surface integral?
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    @alexander_yz After the contour, you can rotate it into the $x, y$ plane and then integrate it using polar coordinates.
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    @alexander_yz Attached a note about the area integration.
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    @alexander_yz Please. See the modifications to obtain the numerical area value.
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    I'm very thankful sir this helped me a lot!
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Without calculus: The outline of the image of a quadric $Q$ under the central projection with matrix $P$ is a conic with a simple formula expressed via dual conics/quadrics: $C^*=PQ^*P^T$. What this formula says is that the outline of the image of $Q$ is the conic that is tangent to the images of the tangent planes of $Q$ that pass through the center of projection.



If we apply a rotation $R$ that aligns the projection direction with the $z$-axis, our orthogonal projection will then have the matrix $$P = begin{bmatrix}1&0&0&0\0&1&0&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix} R,$$ i.e., the projection consists of rotating and then dropping the $z$-coordinate. The first two rows of $P$ are therefore the first two rows of $R$, for which we can take any two orthogonal unit vectors perpendicular to the image plane’s normal. $(4,-2,0)^T$ is obviously one such vector, and we can obtain another via a cross product: $(2,4,-5)^Ttimes(4,-2,0)^T=(-10,-20,-20)^T$. Normalizing these two vectors gives us $$P=begin{bmatrix}{2oversqrt5} & -{1oversqrt5} & 0 & 0 \ -frac13 & -frac23 & -frac23 & 0 \ 0&0&0&1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The matrix $Q = operatorname{diag}(1,1/4,1/9,-1)$, so using $Q^{-1}$ for the dual conic $Q^*$ is convenient. Multiplying this all out produces $$C^* = begin{bmatrix}frac85 & {2oversqrt5} & 0 \ {2oversqrt5} & frac{53}9 &0 \ 0&0&-1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The inverse of this matrix represents an ellipse centered at the origin.



There’s no need to invert this matrix to obtain the equation of the ellipse, though, since the ellipse’s area can be computed directly from the dual matrix. The area of an ellipse is $pi$ times the product of its semiaxis lengths, and the latter are the reciprocal square roots of the eigenvalues of the quadratic part of $C$. Therefore, the area of this ellipse is equal to $${pioversqrt{-det C}} = pi sqrt{-det C^*} = frac23sqrt{97over5}pi.$$



With calculus: One possible approach is to find a parameterization of the outline of the projection. The generator of the outline of a quadric surface—the locus of intersection of rays from the projection center tangent to the surface—it itself a conic that lies in the polar plane of the projection center. For this parallel projection the center is the point at infinity $mathbf V=(2,4,-5,0)$, so the generator’s plane is $Qmathbf V = (2,1,-5/9,0)^T$, i.e., $2x+y-frac59z=0$. Since the ellipsoid is axis-aligned, a relatively easy way to find a parameterization for the intersection curve is to transform the surface to a unit sphere. This transformation changes the polar plane to $(2,2,-5/3,0)^T$. Proceeding as above, we find a pair of unit vectors orthogonal to this plane’s normal, leading to the circle $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-frac1{sqrt2},0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-{5oversqrt{194}}-6sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$ Mapping this circle back to the original coordinate system produces $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-sqrt2,0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-5sqrt{2over97},-18sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$



Since we’re working with a parallel projection, we can use any plane parallel to the image plane, so we project this onto $2x+4y-5z=0$. This is equivalent to projecting onto the original image plane and then translating the center of the resulting ellipse to the origin. The projection onto this plane is easily computed via the orthogonal rejection from the plane’s normal, resulting finally in a parameterization $mathbf r(t)$ for the outline of the ellipsoid’s projection. Its area is then equal to $frac12int_0^{2pi}|mathbf rtimes dmathbf r|$. You should find that the integrand simplifies nicely.



On the other hand, once we had the two unit vectors that generated the great circle of the unit sphere above, we could again proceed without calculus. Scaling and projecting these vectors produces the halves of a pair of conjugate diameters of the outline. A theorem of Appolonios states that the area of the triangle formed by them is equal to $frac12ab$, and so the area of the ellipse is equal to $2pi$ times this area. Calling these two vectors $mathbf u$ and $mathbf v$, the area of ellipsoid’s projection is therefore equal to $pi|mathbf utimesmathbf v|$.






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    How can we do it with calculus?
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    @alexander_yz Read the penultimate paragraph. It’s also possible to compute this by integrating $mathbf ncdot dS$, where $mathbf n$ is a unit normal to the image plane, over an appropriate piece of the ellipsoid, but getting the bounds right is not easy.
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    the bounds are my main problem
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    @alexander_yz I would look for a change of coordinates such that you’re integrating over a hemisphere. It will involve much of the same scaling and rotation that’s in this answer.
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Given the ellipsoid



$$
Cto p'Mp=1, p = (x,y,z), M = mbox{diag}left({1,frac 14, frac 19}right)
$$



and the plane



$$
Pito(p-p_0)cdotvec v, vec v = (2,4,-5)
$$



the line



$$
Lto p=p_1+lambda vec v
$$



is by construction, orthogonal to $Pi$. Now making



$$
(p_1+lambdavec v)'M(p_1+lambdavec v)=1
$$



and solving for $lambda$ we have



$$
lambda = frac{-2p_1'Mvec vpm 2sqrt{(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)}}{2vec v'Mvec v}
$$



but if $L$ is tangent to $C$ then



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0
$$



now assuming that $p_1'$ is the generic tangency point, the sought projection is given by the solution



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0\
(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0
$$



for $p_1$



which eliminating $z$ gives



$$
7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700
$$



this is the trace projection on the $z=0$ plane. Eliminating the $x y$ term with a convenient rotation we get



$$
(1973 + sqrt{749929}) X^2 + (1973-sqrt{749929}) Y^2 = 3880
$$



with main axes



$$
r_X=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973+sqrt{749929}}}\
r_Y=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973-sqrt{749929}}}
$$



so the projected area is given by



$$
S_p = pi r_X r_Y = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{9}
$$



but



$$
S_p = S left(frac{vec v}{||vec v||}cdot hat e_zright)
$$



hence



$$
S = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{45}
$$



Attached the problem setup



enter image description here



In lightblue $(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0$ in light red $(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0$ and in light yellow $7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700$






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    What about the area? Aren't we supposed to make a surface integral?
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    @alexander_yz After the contour, you can rotate it into the $x, y$ plane and then integrate it using polar coordinates.
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    @alexander_yz Attached a note about the area integration.
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    @alexander_yz Please. See the modifications to obtain the numerical area value.
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    I'm very thankful sir this helped me a lot!
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Given the ellipsoid



$$
Cto p'Mp=1, p = (x,y,z), M = mbox{diag}left({1,frac 14, frac 19}right)
$$



and the plane



$$
Pito(p-p_0)cdotvec v, vec v = (2,4,-5)
$$



the line



$$
Lto p=p_1+lambda vec v
$$



is by construction, orthogonal to $Pi$. Now making



$$
(p_1+lambdavec v)'M(p_1+lambdavec v)=1
$$



and solving for $lambda$ we have



$$
lambda = frac{-2p_1'Mvec vpm 2sqrt{(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)}}{2vec v'Mvec v}
$$



but if $L$ is tangent to $C$ then



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0
$$



now assuming that $p_1'$ is the generic tangency point, the sought projection is given by the solution



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0\
(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0
$$



for $p_1$



which eliminating $z$ gives



$$
7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700
$$



this is the trace projection on the $z=0$ plane. Eliminating the $x y$ term with a convenient rotation we get



$$
(1973 + sqrt{749929}) X^2 + (1973-sqrt{749929}) Y^2 = 3880
$$



with main axes



$$
r_X=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973+sqrt{749929}}}\
r_Y=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973-sqrt{749929}}}
$$



so the projected area is given by



$$
S_p = pi r_X r_Y = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{9}
$$



but



$$
S_p = S left(frac{vec v}{||vec v||}cdot hat e_zright)
$$



hence



$$
S = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{45}
$$



Attached the problem setup



enter image description here



In lightblue $(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0$ in light red $(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0$ and in light yellow $7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700$






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    What about the area? Aren't we supposed to make a surface integral?
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    – alexander_yz
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    @alexander_yz After the contour, you can rotate it into the $x, y$ plane and then integrate it using polar coordinates.
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    – Cesareo
    Jan 14 at 22:36










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    @alexander_yz Attached a note about the area integration.
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    – Cesareo
    Jan 15 at 3:46










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    @alexander_yz Please. See the modifications to obtain the numerical area value.
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    – Cesareo
    Jan 17 at 15:32










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    I'm very thankful sir this helped me a lot!
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    – alexander_yz
    Jan 19 at 11:57














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Given the ellipsoid



$$
Cto p'Mp=1, p = (x,y,z), M = mbox{diag}left({1,frac 14, frac 19}right)
$$



and the plane



$$
Pito(p-p_0)cdotvec v, vec v = (2,4,-5)
$$



the line



$$
Lto p=p_1+lambda vec v
$$



is by construction, orthogonal to $Pi$. Now making



$$
(p_1+lambdavec v)'M(p_1+lambdavec v)=1
$$



and solving for $lambda$ we have



$$
lambda = frac{-2p_1'Mvec vpm 2sqrt{(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)}}{2vec v'Mvec v}
$$



but if $L$ is tangent to $C$ then



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0
$$



now assuming that $p_1'$ is the generic tangency point, the sought projection is given by the solution



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0\
(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0
$$



for $p_1$



which eliminating $z$ gives



$$
7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700
$$



this is the trace projection on the $z=0$ plane. Eliminating the $x y$ term with a convenient rotation we get



$$
(1973 + sqrt{749929}) X^2 + (1973-sqrt{749929}) Y^2 = 3880
$$



with main axes



$$
r_X=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973+sqrt{749929}}}\
r_Y=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973-sqrt{749929}}}
$$



so the projected area is given by



$$
S_p = pi r_X r_Y = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{9}
$$



but



$$
S_p = S left(frac{vec v}{||vec v||}cdot hat e_zright)
$$



hence



$$
S = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{45}
$$



Attached the problem setup



enter image description here



In lightblue $(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0$ in light red $(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0$ and in light yellow $7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700$






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Given the ellipsoid



$$
Cto p'Mp=1, p = (x,y,z), M = mbox{diag}left({1,frac 14, frac 19}right)
$$



and the plane



$$
Pito(p-p_0)cdotvec v, vec v = (2,4,-5)
$$



the line



$$
Lto p=p_1+lambda vec v
$$



is by construction, orthogonal to $Pi$. Now making



$$
(p_1+lambdavec v)'M(p_1+lambdavec v)=1
$$



and solving for $lambda$ we have



$$
lambda = frac{-2p_1'Mvec vpm 2sqrt{(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)}}{2vec v'Mvec v}
$$



but if $L$ is tangent to $C$ then



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0
$$



now assuming that $p_1'$ is the generic tangency point, the sought projection is given by the solution



$$
(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0\
(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0
$$



for $p_1$



which eliminating $z$ gives



$$
7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700
$$



this is the trace projection on the $z=0$ plane. Eliminating the $x y$ term with a convenient rotation we get



$$
(1973 + sqrt{749929}) X^2 + (1973-sqrt{749929}) Y^2 = 3880
$$



with main axes



$$
r_X=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973+sqrt{749929}}}\
r_Y=2 sqrt{frac{970}{1973-sqrt{749929}}}
$$



so the projected area is given by



$$
S_p = pi r_X r_Y = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{9}
$$



but



$$
S_p = S left(frac{vec v}{||vec v||}cdot hat e_zright)
$$



hence



$$
S = frac{2 sqrt{97} pi }{45}
$$



Attached the problem setup



enter image description here



In lightblue $(p_1'Mvec v)^2-(p_1'M p_1-1)(vec v'Mvec v)=0$ in light red $(p_1-p_0)'cdot vec v = 0$ and in light yellow $7028 x^2 + 1088 x y + 2837 y^2 = 9700$







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    What about the area? Aren't we supposed to make a surface integral?
    $endgroup$
    – alexander_yz
    Jan 14 at 22:27










  • $begingroup$
    @alexander_yz After the contour, you can rotate it into the $x, y$ plane and then integrate it using polar coordinates.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Jan 14 at 22:36










  • $begingroup$
    @alexander_yz Attached a note about the area integration.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Jan 15 at 3:46










  • $begingroup$
    @alexander_yz Please. See the modifications to obtain the numerical area value.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Jan 17 at 15:32










  • $begingroup$
    I'm very thankful sir this helped me a lot!
    $endgroup$
    – alexander_yz
    Jan 19 at 11:57


















  • $begingroup$
    What about the area? Aren't we supposed to make a surface integral?
    $endgroup$
    – alexander_yz
    Jan 14 at 22:27










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    @alexander_yz After the contour, you can rotate it into the $x, y$ plane and then integrate it using polar coordinates.
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    @alexander_yz Attached a note about the area integration.
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    @alexander_yz Please. See the modifications to obtain the numerical area value.
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    I'm very thankful sir this helped me a lot!
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What about the area? Aren't we supposed to make a surface integral?
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What about the area? Aren't we supposed to make a surface integral?
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@alexander_yz After the contour, you can rotate it into the $x, y$ plane and then integrate it using polar coordinates.
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– Cesareo
Jan 14 at 22:36




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@alexander_yz After the contour, you can rotate it into the $x, y$ plane and then integrate it using polar coordinates.
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@alexander_yz Attached a note about the area integration.
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@alexander_yz Attached a note about the area integration.
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Jan 15 at 3:46












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@alexander_yz Please. See the modifications to obtain the numerical area value.
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– Cesareo
Jan 17 at 15:32




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@alexander_yz Please. See the modifications to obtain the numerical area value.
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– Cesareo
Jan 17 at 15:32












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I'm very thankful sir this helped me a lot!
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– alexander_yz
Jan 19 at 11:57




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I'm very thankful sir this helped me a lot!
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Jan 19 at 11:57











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Without calculus: The outline of the image of a quadric $Q$ under the central projection with matrix $P$ is a conic with a simple formula expressed via dual conics/quadrics: $C^*=PQ^*P^T$. What this formula says is that the outline of the image of $Q$ is the conic that is tangent to the images of the tangent planes of $Q$ that pass through the center of projection.



If we apply a rotation $R$ that aligns the projection direction with the $z$-axis, our orthogonal projection will then have the matrix $$P = begin{bmatrix}1&0&0&0\0&1&0&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix} R,$$ i.e., the projection consists of rotating and then dropping the $z$-coordinate. The first two rows of $P$ are therefore the first two rows of $R$, for which we can take any two orthogonal unit vectors perpendicular to the image plane’s normal. $(4,-2,0)^T$ is obviously one such vector, and we can obtain another via a cross product: $(2,4,-5)^Ttimes(4,-2,0)^T=(-10,-20,-20)^T$. Normalizing these two vectors gives us $$P=begin{bmatrix}{2oversqrt5} & -{1oversqrt5} & 0 & 0 \ -frac13 & -frac23 & -frac23 & 0 \ 0&0&0&1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The matrix $Q = operatorname{diag}(1,1/4,1/9,-1)$, so using $Q^{-1}$ for the dual conic $Q^*$ is convenient. Multiplying this all out produces $$C^* = begin{bmatrix}frac85 & {2oversqrt5} & 0 \ {2oversqrt5} & frac{53}9 &0 \ 0&0&-1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The inverse of this matrix represents an ellipse centered at the origin.



There’s no need to invert this matrix to obtain the equation of the ellipse, though, since the ellipse’s area can be computed directly from the dual matrix. The area of an ellipse is $pi$ times the product of its semiaxis lengths, and the latter are the reciprocal square roots of the eigenvalues of the quadratic part of $C$. Therefore, the area of this ellipse is equal to $${pioversqrt{-det C}} = pi sqrt{-det C^*} = frac23sqrt{97over5}pi.$$



With calculus: One possible approach is to find a parameterization of the outline of the projection. The generator of the outline of a quadric surface—the locus of intersection of rays from the projection center tangent to the surface—it itself a conic that lies in the polar plane of the projection center. For this parallel projection the center is the point at infinity $mathbf V=(2,4,-5,0)$, so the generator’s plane is $Qmathbf V = (2,1,-5/9,0)^T$, i.e., $2x+y-frac59z=0$. Since the ellipsoid is axis-aligned, a relatively easy way to find a parameterization for the intersection curve is to transform the surface to a unit sphere. This transformation changes the polar plane to $(2,2,-5/3,0)^T$. Proceeding as above, we find a pair of unit vectors orthogonal to this plane’s normal, leading to the circle $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-frac1{sqrt2},0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-{5oversqrt{194}}-6sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$ Mapping this circle back to the original coordinate system produces $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-sqrt2,0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-5sqrt{2over97},-18sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$



Since we’re working with a parallel projection, we can use any plane parallel to the image plane, so we project this onto $2x+4y-5z=0$. This is equivalent to projecting onto the original image plane and then translating the center of the resulting ellipse to the origin. The projection onto this plane is easily computed via the orthogonal rejection from the plane’s normal, resulting finally in a parameterization $mathbf r(t)$ for the outline of the ellipsoid’s projection. Its area is then equal to $frac12int_0^{2pi}|mathbf rtimes dmathbf r|$. You should find that the integrand simplifies nicely.



On the other hand, once we had the two unit vectors that generated the great circle of the unit sphere above, we could again proceed without calculus. Scaling and projecting these vectors produces the halves of a pair of conjugate diameters of the outline. A theorem of Appolonios states that the area of the triangle formed by them is equal to $frac12ab$, and so the area of the ellipse is equal to $2pi$ times this area. Calling these two vectors $mathbf u$ and $mathbf v$, the area of ellipsoid’s projection is therefore equal to $pi|mathbf utimesmathbf v|$.






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    How can we do it with calculus?
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    – alexander_yz
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    @alexander_yz Read the penultimate paragraph. It’s also possible to compute this by integrating $mathbf ncdot dS$, where $mathbf n$ is a unit normal to the image plane, over an appropriate piece of the ellipsoid, but getting the bounds right is not easy.
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    the bounds are my main problem
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    @alexander_yz I would look for a change of coordinates such that you’re integrating over a hemisphere. It will involve much of the same scaling and rotation that’s in this answer.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 16 at 17:47










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    Thanks a lot! :)
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    – alexander_yz
    Jan 20 at 8:49
















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Without calculus: The outline of the image of a quadric $Q$ under the central projection with matrix $P$ is a conic with a simple formula expressed via dual conics/quadrics: $C^*=PQ^*P^T$. What this formula says is that the outline of the image of $Q$ is the conic that is tangent to the images of the tangent planes of $Q$ that pass through the center of projection.



If we apply a rotation $R$ that aligns the projection direction with the $z$-axis, our orthogonal projection will then have the matrix $$P = begin{bmatrix}1&0&0&0\0&1&0&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix} R,$$ i.e., the projection consists of rotating and then dropping the $z$-coordinate. The first two rows of $P$ are therefore the first two rows of $R$, for which we can take any two orthogonal unit vectors perpendicular to the image plane’s normal. $(4,-2,0)^T$ is obviously one such vector, and we can obtain another via a cross product: $(2,4,-5)^Ttimes(4,-2,0)^T=(-10,-20,-20)^T$. Normalizing these two vectors gives us $$P=begin{bmatrix}{2oversqrt5} & -{1oversqrt5} & 0 & 0 \ -frac13 & -frac23 & -frac23 & 0 \ 0&0&0&1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The matrix $Q = operatorname{diag}(1,1/4,1/9,-1)$, so using $Q^{-1}$ for the dual conic $Q^*$ is convenient. Multiplying this all out produces $$C^* = begin{bmatrix}frac85 & {2oversqrt5} & 0 \ {2oversqrt5} & frac{53}9 &0 \ 0&0&-1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The inverse of this matrix represents an ellipse centered at the origin.



There’s no need to invert this matrix to obtain the equation of the ellipse, though, since the ellipse’s area can be computed directly from the dual matrix. The area of an ellipse is $pi$ times the product of its semiaxis lengths, and the latter are the reciprocal square roots of the eigenvalues of the quadratic part of $C$. Therefore, the area of this ellipse is equal to $${pioversqrt{-det C}} = pi sqrt{-det C^*} = frac23sqrt{97over5}pi.$$



With calculus: One possible approach is to find a parameterization of the outline of the projection. The generator of the outline of a quadric surface—the locus of intersection of rays from the projection center tangent to the surface—it itself a conic that lies in the polar plane of the projection center. For this parallel projection the center is the point at infinity $mathbf V=(2,4,-5,0)$, so the generator’s plane is $Qmathbf V = (2,1,-5/9,0)^T$, i.e., $2x+y-frac59z=0$. Since the ellipsoid is axis-aligned, a relatively easy way to find a parameterization for the intersection curve is to transform the surface to a unit sphere. This transformation changes the polar plane to $(2,2,-5/3,0)^T$. Proceeding as above, we find a pair of unit vectors orthogonal to this plane’s normal, leading to the circle $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-frac1{sqrt2},0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-{5oversqrt{194}}-6sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$ Mapping this circle back to the original coordinate system produces $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-sqrt2,0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-5sqrt{2over97},-18sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$



Since we’re working with a parallel projection, we can use any plane parallel to the image plane, so we project this onto $2x+4y-5z=0$. This is equivalent to projecting onto the original image plane and then translating the center of the resulting ellipse to the origin. The projection onto this plane is easily computed via the orthogonal rejection from the plane’s normal, resulting finally in a parameterization $mathbf r(t)$ for the outline of the ellipsoid’s projection. Its area is then equal to $frac12int_0^{2pi}|mathbf rtimes dmathbf r|$. You should find that the integrand simplifies nicely.



On the other hand, once we had the two unit vectors that generated the great circle of the unit sphere above, we could again proceed without calculus. Scaling and projecting these vectors produces the halves of a pair of conjugate diameters of the outline. A theorem of Appolonios states that the area of the triangle formed by them is equal to $frac12ab$, and so the area of the ellipse is equal to $2pi$ times this area. Calling these two vectors $mathbf u$ and $mathbf v$, the area of ellipsoid’s projection is therefore equal to $pi|mathbf utimesmathbf v|$.






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    How can we do it with calculus?
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    – alexander_yz
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    @alexander_yz Read the penultimate paragraph. It’s also possible to compute this by integrating $mathbf ncdot dS$, where $mathbf n$ is a unit normal to the image plane, over an appropriate piece of the ellipsoid, but getting the bounds right is not easy.
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    the bounds are my main problem
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    Jan 16 at 11:33










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    @alexander_yz I would look for a change of coordinates such that you’re integrating over a hemisphere. It will involve much of the same scaling and rotation that’s in this answer.
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    – amd
    Jan 16 at 17:47










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    Thanks a lot! :)
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    – alexander_yz
    Jan 20 at 8:49














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Without calculus: The outline of the image of a quadric $Q$ under the central projection with matrix $P$ is a conic with a simple formula expressed via dual conics/quadrics: $C^*=PQ^*P^T$. What this formula says is that the outline of the image of $Q$ is the conic that is tangent to the images of the tangent planes of $Q$ that pass through the center of projection.



If we apply a rotation $R$ that aligns the projection direction with the $z$-axis, our orthogonal projection will then have the matrix $$P = begin{bmatrix}1&0&0&0\0&1&0&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix} R,$$ i.e., the projection consists of rotating and then dropping the $z$-coordinate. The first two rows of $P$ are therefore the first two rows of $R$, for which we can take any two orthogonal unit vectors perpendicular to the image plane’s normal. $(4,-2,0)^T$ is obviously one such vector, and we can obtain another via a cross product: $(2,4,-5)^Ttimes(4,-2,0)^T=(-10,-20,-20)^T$. Normalizing these two vectors gives us $$P=begin{bmatrix}{2oversqrt5} & -{1oversqrt5} & 0 & 0 \ -frac13 & -frac23 & -frac23 & 0 \ 0&0&0&1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The matrix $Q = operatorname{diag}(1,1/4,1/9,-1)$, so using $Q^{-1}$ for the dual conic $Q^*$ is convenient. Multiplying this all out produces $$C^* = begin{bmatrix}frac85 & {2oversqrt5} & 0 \ {2oversqrt5} & frac{53}9 &0 \ 0&0&-1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The inverse of this matrix represents an ellipse centered at the origin.



There’s no need to invert this matrix to obtain the equation of the ellipse, though, since the ellipse’s area can be computed directly from the dual matrix. The area of an ellipse is $pi$ times the product of its semiaxis lengths, and the latter are the reciprocal square roots of the eigenvalues of the quadratic part of $C$. Therefore, the area of this ellipse is equal to $${pioversqrt{-det C}} = pi sqrt{-det C^*} = frac23sqrt{97over5}pi.$$



With calculus: One possible approach is to find a parameterization of the outline of the projection. The generator of the outline of a quadric surface—the locus of intersection of rays from the projection center tangent to the surface—it itself a conic that lies in the polar plane of the projection center. For this parallel projection the center is the point at infinity $mathbf V=(2,4,-5,0)$, so the generator’s plane is $Qmathbf V = (2,1,-5/9,0)^T$, i.e., $2x+y-frac59z=0$. Since the ellipsoid is axis-aligned, a relatively easy way to find a parameterization for the intersection curve is to transform the surface to a unit sphere. This transformation changes the polar plane to $(2,2,-5/3,0)^T$. Proceeding as above, we find a pair of unit vectors orthogonal to this plane’s normal, leading to the circle $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-frac1{sqrt2},0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-{5oversqrt{194}}-6sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$ Mapping this circle back to the original coordinate system produces $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-sqrt2,0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-5sqrt{2over97},-18sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$



Since we’re working with a parallel projection, we can use any plane parallel to the image plane, so we project this onto $2x+4y-5z=0$. This is equivalent to projecting onto the original image plane and then translating the center of the resulting ellipse to the origin. The projection onto this plane is easily computed via the orthogonal rejection from the plane’s normal, resulting finally in a parameterization $mathbf r(t)$ for the outline of the ellipsoid’s projection. Its area is then equal to $frac12int_0^{2pi}|mathbf rtimes dmathbf r|$. You should find that the integrand simplifies nicely.



On the other hand, once we had the two unit vectors that generated the great circle of the unit sphere above, we could again proceed without calculus. Scaling and projecting these vectors produces the halves of a pair of conjugate diameters of the outline. A theorem of Appolonios states that the area of the triangle formed by them is equal to $frac12ab$, and so the area of the ellipse is equal to $2pi$ times this area. Calling these two vectors $mathbf u$ and $mathbf v$, the area of ellipsoid’s projection is therefore equal to $pi|mathbf utimesmathbf v|$.






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Without calculus: The outline of the image of a quadric $Q$ under the central projection with matrix $P$ is a conic with a simple formula expressed via dual conics/quadrics: $C^*=PQ^*P^T$. What this formula says is that the outline of the image of $Q$ is the conic that is tangent to the images of the tangent planes of $Q$ that pass through the center of projection.



If we apply a rotation $R$ that aligns the projection direction with the $z$-axis, our orthogonal projection will then have the matrix $$P = begin{bmatrix}1&0&0&0\0&1&0&0\0&0&0&1end{bmatrix} R,$$ i.e., the projection consists of rotating and then dropping the $z$-coordinate. The first two rows of $P$ are therefore the first two rows of $R$, for which we can take any two orthogonal unit vectors perpendicular to the image plane’s normal. $(4,-2,0)^T$ is obviously one such vector, and we can obtain another via a cross product: $(2,4,-5)^Ttimes(4,-2,0)^T=(-10,-20,-20)^T$. Normalizing these two vectors gives us $$P=begin{bmatrix}{2oversqrt5} & -{1oversqrt5} & 0 & 0 \ -frac13 & -frac23 & -frac23 & 0 \ 0&0&0&1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The matrix $Q = operatorname{diag}(1,1/4,1/9,-1)$, so using $Q^{-1}$ for the dual conic $Q^*$ is convenient. Multiplying this all out produces $$C^* = begin{bmatrix}frac85 & {2oversqrt5} & 0 \ {2oversqrt5} & frac{53}9 &0 \ 0&0&-1 end{bmatrix}.$$ The inverse of this matrix represents an ellipse centered at the origin.



There’s no need to invert this matrix to obtain the equation of the ellipse, though, since the ellipse’s area can be computed directly from the dual matrix. The area of an ellipse is $pi$ times the product of its semiaxis lengths, and the latter are the reciprocal square roots of the eigenvalues of the quadratic part of $C$. Therefore, the area of this ellipse is equal to $${pioversqrt{-det C}} = pi sqrt{-det C^*} = frac23sqrt{97over5}pi.$$



With calculus: One possible approach is to find a parameterization of the outline of the projection. The generator of the outline of a quadric surface—the locus of intersection of rays from the projection center tangent to the surface—it itself a conic that lies in the polar plane of the projection center. For this parallel projection the center is the point at infinity $mathbf V=(2,4,-5,0)$, so the generator’s plane is $Qmathbf V = (2,1,-5/9,0)^T$, i.e., $2x+y-frac59z=0$. Since the ellipsoid is axis-aligned, a relatively easy way to find a parameterization for the intersection curve is to transform the surface to a unit sphere. This transformation changes the polar plane to $(2,2,-5/3,0)^T$. Proceeding as above, we find a pair of unit vectors orthogonal to this plane’s normal, leading to the circle $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-frac1{sqrt2},0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-{5oversqrt{194}}-6sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$ Mapping this circle back to the original coordinate system produces $$cos(t)left(frac1{sqrt2},-sqrt2,0right)^T+sin(t)left(-{5oversqrt{194}},-5sqrt{2over97},-18sqrt{2over97}right)^T.$$



Since we’re working with a parallel projection, we can use any plane parallel to the image plane, so we project this onto $2x+4y-5z=0$. This is equivalent to projecting onto the original image plane and then translating the center of the resulting ellipse to the origin. The projection onto this plane is easily computed via the orthogonal rejection from the plane’s normal, resulting finally in a parameterization $mathbf r(t)$ for the outline of the ellipsoid’s projection. Its area is then equal to $frac12int_0^{2pi}|mathbf rtimes dmathbf r|$. You should find that the integrand simplifies nicely.



On the other hand, once we had the two unit vectors that generated the great circle of the unit sphere above, we could again proceed without calculus. Scaling and projecting these vectors produces the halves of a pair of conjugate diameters of the outline. A theorem of Appolonios states that the area of the triangle formed by them is equal to $frac12ab$, and so the area of the ellipse is equal to $2pi$ times this area. Calling these two vectors $mathbf u$ and $mathbf v$, the area of ellipsoid’s projection is therefore equal to $pi|mathbf utimesmathbf v|$.







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    How can we do it with calculus?
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    – alexander_yz
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  • $begingroup$
    @alexander_yz Read the penultimate paragraph. It’s also possible to compute this by integrating $mathbf ncdot dS$, where $mathbf n$ is a unit normal to the image plane, over an appropriate piece of the ellipsoid, but getting the bounds right is not easy.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 16 at 0:39










  • $begingroup$
    the bounds are my main problem
    $endgroup$
    – alexander_yz
    Jan 16 at 11:33










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    @alexander_yz I would look for a change of coordinates such that you’re integrating over a hemisphere. It will involve much of the same scaling and rotation that’s in this answer.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 16 at 17:47










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks a lot! :)
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    – alexander_yz
    Jan 20 at 8:49


















  • $begingroup$
    How can we do it with calculus?
    $endgroup$
    – alexander_yz
    Jan 15 at 22:09










  • $begingroup$
    @alexander_yz Read the penultimate paragraph. It’s also possible to compute this by integrating $mathbf ncdot dS$, where $mathbf n$ is a unit normal to the image plane, over an appropriate piece of the ellipsoid, but getting the bounds right is not easy.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 16 at 0:39










  • $begingroup$
    the bounds are my main problem
    $endgroup$
    – alexander_yz
    Jan 16 at 11:33










  • $begingroup$
    @alexander_yz I would look for a change of coordinates such that you’re integrating over a hemisphere. It will involve much of the same scaling and rotation that’s in this answer.
    $endgroup$
    – amd
    Jan 16 at 17:47










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks a lot! :)
    $endgroup$
    – alexander_yz
    Jan 20 at 8:49
















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How can we do it with calculus?
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– alexander_yz
Jan 15 at 22:09




$begingroup$
How can we do it with calculus?
$endgroup$
– alexander_yz
Jan 15 at 22:09












$begingroup$
@alexander_yz Read the penultimate paragraph. It’s also possible to compute this by integrating $mathbf ncdot dS$, where $mathbf n$ is a unit normal to the image plane, over an appropriate piece of the ellipsoid, but getting the bounds right is not easy.
$endgroup$
– amd
Jan 16 at 0:39




$begingroup$
@alexander_yz Read the penultimate paragraph. It’s also possible to compute this by integrating $mathbf ncdot dS$, where $mathbf n$ is a unit normal to the image plane, over an appropriate piece of the ellipsoid, but getting the bounds right is not easy.
$endgroup$
– amd
Jan 16 at 0:39












$begingroup$
the bounds are my main problem
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Jan 16 at 11:33




$begingroup$
the bounds are my main problem
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– alexander_yz
Jan 16 at 11:33












$begingroup$
@alexander_yz I would look for a change of coordinates such that you’re integrating over a hemisphere. It will involve much of the same scaling and rotation that’s in this answer.
$endgroup$
– amd
Jan 16 at 17:47




$begingroup$
@alexander_yz I would look for a change of coordinates such that you’re integrating over a hemisphere. It will involve much of the same scaling and rotation that’s in this answer.
$endgroup$
– amd
Jan 16 at 17:47












$begingroup$
Thanks a lot! :)
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Jan 20 at 8:49




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Thanks a lot! :)
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