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I got 4 equations, where are $x,y,z,u$ variables , and $a,b$ parameters. So the solution from the book is like this:



$$x+(a+1)y-(a+1)z-au=1$$



$$ax+(a+1)y+az-2u=2$$



$$ax+(a+1)y-2z+au=b$$



$$(a-1)x+3(a+1)z-4u=3-b$$



So when I do all transformations it gets this form:



$$(a+1)y+x-(a+1)z-au=1$$



$$(a-1)x+(2a+1)z+(a-2)u=1$$



$$(-a-2)z+(a+2)u=b-2$$



Now, next steps are these:




  1. If $aneq-1 , aneq1 , aneq-2$: System is indefinite


  2. If $a=-1$: System is indefinite


  3. If $a=1$: System is indefinite


  4. If $a=-2$: System can be either indefinite or impossible



My question is how did we got that first part where $a$ can't be $1, -1$ or $-2$. Why it can be $2$ or $0$ or some other number?










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    I got 4 equations, where are $x,y,z,u$ variables , and $a,b$ parameters. So the solution from the book is like this:



    $$x+(a+1)y-(a+1)z-au=1$$



    $$ax+(a+1)y+az-2u=2$$



    $$ax+(a+1)y-2z+au=b$$



    $$(a-1)x+3(a+1)z-4u=3-b$$



    So when I do all transformations it gets this form:



    $$(a+1)y+x-(a+1)z-au=1$$



    $$(a-1)x+(2a+1)z+(a-2)u=1$$



    $$(-a-2)z+(a+2)u=b-2$$



    Now, next steps are these:




    1. If $aneq-1 , aneq1 , aneq-2$: System is indefinite


    2. If $a=-1$: System is indefinite


    3. If $a=1$: System is indefinite


    4. If $a=-2$: System can be either indefinite or impossible



    My question is how did we got that first part where $a$ can't be $1, -1$ or $-2$. Why it can be $2$ or $0$ or some other number?










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      I got 4 equations, where are $x,y,z,u$ variables , and $a,b$ parameters. So the solution from the book is like this:



      $$x+(a+1)y-(a+1)z-au=1$$



      $$ax+(a+1)y+az-2u=2$$



      $$ax+(a+1)y-2z+au=b$$



      $$(a-1)x+3(a+1)z-4u=3-b$$



      So when I do all transformations it gets this form:



      $$(a+1)y+x-(a+1)z-au=1$$



      $$(a-1)x+(2a+1)z+(a-2)u=1$$



      $$(-a-2)z+(a+2)u=b-2$$



      Now, next steps are these:




      1. If $aneq-1 , aneq1 , aneq-2$: System is indefinite


      2. If $a=-1$: System is indefinite


      3. If $a=1$: System is indefinite


      4. If $a=-2$: System can be either indefinite or impossible



      My question is how did we got that first part where $a$ can't be $1, -1$ or $-2$. Why it can be $2$ or $0$ or some other number?










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      I got 4 equations, where are $x,y,z,u$ variables , and $a,b$ parameters. So the solution from the book is like this:



      $$x+(a+1)y-(a+1)z-au=1$$



      $$ax+(a+1)y+az-2u=2$$



      $$ax+(a+1)y-2z+au=b$$



      $$(a-1)x+3(a+1)z-4u=3-b$$



      So when I do all transformations it gets this form:



      $$(a+1)y+x-(a+1)z-au=1$$



      $$(a-1)x+(2a+1)z+(a-2)u=1$$



      $$(-a-2)z+(a+2)u=b-2$$



      Now, next steps are these:




      1. If $aneq-1 , aneq1 , aneq-2$: System is indefinite


      2. If $a=-1$: System is indefinite


      3. If $a=1$: System is indefinite


      4. If $a=-2$: System can be either indefinite or impossible



      My question is how did we got that first part where $a$ can't be $1, -1$ or $-2$. Why it can be $2$ or $0$ or some other number?







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          Suppose $a_{i,j}, b_k in mathbb{Z}$.



          I will talk about what you have. I do not know if your computations are OK (I think they are not).



          In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



          $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



          That is telling you that you have a degree of freedom since you have $4$ variables and $3$ equations. Hence, one of your variables will depend of the others. Hence, the system will have infinite solutions. Hence it is 'indefinite'. But you have got that it is indefinite for all $a$. (Since you got this reduction for all $a$ and there is a $1$ that will never be zero. Then you will never have a zero matrix for any $a$.)(Changing values of $a$ you may get more zero rows but it will be still 'indefinite' since you can not make a whole row zero with a fixed value of $a$.).



          Moreover,a system like
          $$begin{bmatrix}a_{1,1}&a_{1,2}&a_{1,3}&a_{1,4}\ a_{2,1}&a_{2,2}&a_{2,3}&a_{2,4}\a_{3,1}&a_{3,2}&a_{3,3}&a_{3,4}\a_{4,1}&a_{4,2}&a_{4,3}&a_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}b_1\ b_2\b_3\b_4end{bmatrix}$$



          is an 'impossible' system or has no solution when you find that a whole row of $a_{i,j}$ is zero for a fixed $i$ and the respective $b_i$ is not zero.



          In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



          $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



          And that is not 'impossible'.



          HINT:




          1. Try to put your system this way.

          2. Reduce it until you get an upper triangular matrix.


          When you get something like:



          $$begin{bmatrix}b_{1,1}&b_{1,2}&b_{1,3}&b_{1,4}\ 0&b_{2,2}&b_{2,3}&b_{2,4}\0&0&b_{3,3}&b_{3,4}\0&0&0&b_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}c_1\ c_2\c_3\c_4end{bmatrix}$$



          you will see that $b_{4,4}$ and $c_4$ will be certain expressions.



          If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4=0$, the system will be 'indefinite'.



          If $b_{4,4} neq 0$, you will be able to find $u$ and solve your system. And it will have a unique solution.



          If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4neq 0$, the system will be 'impossible'.






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            $begingroup$

            Suppose $a_{i,j}, b_k in mathbb{Z}$.



            I will talk about what you have. I do not know if your computations are OK (I think they are not).



            In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



            $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



            That is telling you that you have a degree of freedom since you have $4$ variables and $3$ equations. Hence, one of your variables will depend of the others. Hence, the system will have infinite solutions. Hence it is 'indefinite'. But you have got that it is indefinite for all $a$. (Since you got this reduction for all $a$ and there is a $1$ that will never be zero. Then you will never have a zero matrix for any $a$.)(Changing values of $a$ you may get more zero rows but it will be still 'indefinite' since you can not make a whole row zero with a fixed value of $a$.).



            Moreover,a system like
            $$begin{bmatrix}a_{1,1}&a_{1,2}&a_{1,3}&a_{1,4}\ a_{2,1}&a_{2,2}&a_{2,3}&a_{2,4}\a_{3,1}&a_{3,2}&a_{3,3}&a_{3,4}\a_{4,1}&a_{4,2}&a_{4,3}&a_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}b_1\ b_2\b_3\b_4end{bmatrix}$$



            is an 'impossible' system or has no solution when you find that a whole row of $a_{i,j}$ is zero for a fixed $i$ and the respective $b_i$ is not zero.



            In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



            $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



            And that is not 'impossible'.



            HINT:




            1. Try to put your system this way.

            2. Reduce it until you get an upper triangular matrix.


            When you get something like:



            $$begin{bmatrix}b_{1,1}&b_{1,2}&b_{1,3}&b_{1,4}\ 0&b_{2,2}&b_{2,3}&b_{2,4}\0&0&b_{3,3}&b_{3,4}\0&0&0&b_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}c_1\ c_2\c_3\c_4end{bmatrix}$$



            you will see that $b_{4,4}$ and $c_4$ will be certain expressions.



            If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4=0$, the system will be 'indefinite'.



            If $b_{4,4} neq 0$, you will be able to find $u$ and solve your system. And it will have a unique solution.



            If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4neq 0$, the system will be 'impossible'.






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              $begingroup$

              Suppose $a_{i,j}, b_k in mathbb{Z}$.



              I will talk about what you have. I do not know if your computations are OK (I think they are not).



              In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



              $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



              That is telling you that you have a degree of freedom since you have $4$ variables and $3$ equations. Hence, one of your variables will depend of the others. Hence, the system will have infinite solutions. Hence it is 'indefinite'. But you have got that it is indefinite for all $a$. (Since you got this reduction for all $a$ and there is a $1$ that will never be zero. Then you will never have a zero matrix for any $a$.)(Changing values of $a$ you may get more zero rows but it will be still 'indefinite' since you can not make a whole row zero with a fixed value of $a$.).



              Moreover,a system like
              $$begin{bmatrix}a_{1,1}&a_{1,2}&a_{1,3}&a_{1,4}\ a_{2,1}&a_{2,2}&a_{2,3}&a_{2,4}\a_{3,1}&a_{3,2}&a_{3,3}&a_{3,4}\a_{4,1}&a_{4,2}&a_{4,3}&a_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}b_1\ b_2\b_3\b_4end{bmatrix}$$



              is an 'impossible' system or has no solution when you find that a whole row of $a_{i,j}$ is zero for a fixed $i$ and the respective $b_i$ is not zero.



              In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



              $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



              And that is not 'impossible'.



              HINT:




              1. Try to put your system this way.

              2. Reduce it until you get an upper triangular matrix.


              When you get something like:



              $$begin{bmatrix}b_{1,1}&b_{1,2}&b_{1,3}&b_{1,4}\ 0&b_{2,2}&b_{2,3}&b_{2,4}\0&0&b_{3,3}&b_{3,4}\0&0&0&b_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}c_1\ c_2\c_3\c_4end{bmatrix}$$



              you will see that $b_{4,4}$ and $c_4$ will be certain expressions.



              If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4=0$, the system will be 'indefinite'.



              If $b_{4,4} neq 0$, you will be able to find $u$ and solve your system. And it will have a unique solution.



              If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4neq 0$, the system will be 'impossible'.






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                $begingroup$

                Suppose $a_{i,j}, b_k in mathbb{Z}$.



                I will talk about what you have. I do not know if your computations are OK (I think they are not).



                In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



                $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



                That is telling you that you have a degree of freedom since you have $4$ variables and $3$ equations. Hence, one of your variables will depend of the others. Hence, the system will have infinite solutions. Hence it is 'indefinite'. But you have got that it is indefinite for all $a$. (Since you got this reduction for all $a$ and there is a $1$ that will never be zero. Then you will never have a zero matrix for any $a$.)(Changing values of $a$ you may get more zero rows but it will be still 'indefinite' since you can not make a whole row zero with a fixed value of $a$.).



                Moreover,a system like
                $$begin{bmatrix}a_{1,1}&a_{1,2}&a_{1,3}&a_{1,4}\ a_{2,1}&a_{2,2}&a_{2,3}&a_{2,4}\a_{3,1}&a_{3,2}&a_{3,3}&a_{3,4}\a_{4,1}&a_{4,2}&a_{4,3}&a_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}b_1\ b_2\b_3\b_4end{bmatrix}$$



                is an 'impossible' system or has no solution when you find that a whole row of $a_{i,j}$ is zero for a fixed $i$ and the respective $b_i$ is not zero.



                In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



                $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



                And that is not 'impossible'.



                HINT:




                1. Try to put your system this way.

                2. Reduce it until you get an upper triangular matrix.


                When you get something like:



                $$begin{bmatrix}b_{1,1}&b_{1,2}&b_{1,3}&b_{1,4}\ 0&b_{2,2}&b_{2,3}&b_{2,4}\0&0&b_{3,3}&b_{3,4}\0&0&0&b_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}c_1\ c_2\c_3\c_4end{bmatrix}$$



                you will see that $b_{4,4}$ and $c_4$ will be certain expressions.



                If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4=0$, the system will be 'indefinite'.



                If $b_{4,4} neq 0$, you will be able to find $u$ and solve your system. And it will have a unique solution.



                If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4neq 0$, the system will be 'impossible'.






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                Suppose $a_{i,j}, b_k in mathbb{Z}$.



                I will talk about what you have. I do not know if your computations are OK (I think they are not).



                In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



                $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



                That is telling you that you have a degree of freedom since you have $4$ variables and $3$ equations. Hence, one of your variables will depend of the others. Hence, the system will have infinite solutions. Hence it is 'indefinite'. But you have got that it is indefinite for all $a$. (Since you got this reduction for all $a$ and there is a $1$ that will never be zero. Then you will never have a zero matrix for any $a$.)(Changing values of $a$ you may get more zero rows but it will be still 'indefinite' since you can not make a whole row zero with a fixed value of $a$.).



                Moreover,a system like
                $$begin{bmatrix}a_{1,1}&a_{1,2}&a_{1,3}&a_{1,4}\ a_{2,1}&a_{2,2}&a_{2,3}&a_{2,4}\a_{3,1}&a_{3,2}&a_{3,3}&a_{3,4}\a_{4,1}&a_{4,2}&a_{4,3}&a_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}b_1\ b_2\b_3\b_4end{bmatrix}$$



                is an 'impossible' system or has no solution when you find that a whole row of $a_{i,j}$ is zero for a fixed $i$ and the respective $b_i$ is not zero.



                In your case, you have done changes and you have obtained:



                $$begin{bmatrix}1&a+1&a+1&-a\ a-1&0&2a+1&a-2\0&0&-a-2&a+2\0&0&0&0\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}1\ 1\b-2\0end{bmatrix}$$



                And that is not 'impossible'.



                HINT:




                1. Try to put your system this way.

                2. Reduce it until you get an upper triangular matrix.


                When you get something like:



                $$begin{bmatrix}b_{1,1}&b_{1,2}&b_{1,3}&b_{1,4}\ 0&b_{2,2}&b_{2,3}&b_{2,4}\0&0&b_{3,3}&b_{3,4}\0&0&0&b_{4,4}\end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}x\ y\z\uend{bmatrix}= begin{bmatrix}c_1\ c_2\c_3\c_4end{bmatrix}$$



                you will see that $b_{4,4}$ and $c_4$ will be certain expressions.



                If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4=0$, the system will be 'indefinite'.



                If $b_{4,4} neq 0$, you will be able to find $u$ and solve your system. And it will have a unique solution.



                If $b_{4,4} = 0$ and $c_4neq 0$, the system will be 'impossible'.







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