A Theory Entailing a Logical Equivalence of Two Formulas in FOL












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In FOL we say two formulas $phi$ and $psi$ are logically equivalent iff $phivDashpsi$ and $psivDashphi$.



My question is: What does it mean to say that a theory $T$ entails that $phi$ and $psi$ are logically equivalent? $T vDash (phivDashpsi text{ and } psivDashphi)$



Can we say it means $T, phivDashpsi$ and $T, psivDashphi$?










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    In FOL we say two formulas $phi$ and $psi$ are logically equivalent iff $phivDashpsi$ and $psivDashphi$.



    My question is: What does it mean to say that a theory $T$ entails that $phi$ and $psi$ are logically equivalent? $T vDash (phivDashpsi text{ and } psivDashphi)$



    Can we say it means $T, phivDashpsi$ and $T, psivDashphi$?










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      In FOL we say two formulas $phi$ and $psi$ are logically equivalent iff $phivDashpsi$ and $psivDashphi$.



      My question is: What does it mean to say that a theory $T$ entails that $phi$ and $psi$ are logically equivalent? $T vDash (phivDashpsi text{ and } psivDashphi)$



      Can we say it means $T, phivDashpsi$ and $T, psivDashphi$?










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      In FOL we say two formulas $phi$ and $psi$ are logically equivalent iff $phivDashpsi$ and $psivDashphi$.



      My question is: What does it mean to say that a theory $T$ entails that $phi$ and $psi$ are logically equivalent? $T vDash (phivDashpsi text{ and } psivDashphi)$



      Can we say it means $T, phivDashpsi$ and $T, psivDashphi$?







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          Your last line is right: "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" (which I think is the clearest way to phrase it in natural language) means "$T,varphimodelspsi$ and $T,psimodelsvarphi$."



          (Meanwhile, "$Tmodels (varphimodelspsi wedgepsimodelsvarphi)$" doesn't actually mean anything - we can't "iterate $models$.")



          However, there are a couple other (equivalent) ways to formulate this:




          • By the completeness theorem, that's equivalent to "$T,varphivdashpsi$ and $T,psivdashvarphi$" - that is, we can replace semantic entailment with proof.


          • By the deduction theorem, that's equivalent to "$Tvdashvarphileftrightarrowpsi$."


          • The deduction theorem also has a (much simpler to prove) semantic counterpart: it's easy to show that $T,thetamodelseta$ iff $Tmodelsthetarightarrow eta$, and it follows that ($T,thetamodelseta$ and $T,etamodelstheta$) iff $Tmodelsthetaleftrightarroweta$. So finally, yet another equivalent way to express "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" - and in my opinion the snappiest really - is $$"Tmodelsvarphileftrightarrowpsi."$$ Indeed,it's this last one that I consider the definition of "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent," and I'd consider the equivalences with the other three versions to be (easily proved) theorems.







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            Your last line is right: "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" (which I think is the clearest way to phrase it in natural language) means "$T,varphimodelspsi$ and $T,psimodelsvarphi$."



            (Meanwhile, "$Tmodels (varphimodelspsi wedgepsimodelsvarphi)$" doesn't actually mean anything - we can't "iterate $models$.")



            However, there are a couple other (equivalent) ways to formulate this:




            • By the completeness theorem, that's equivalent to "$T,varphivdashpsi$ and $T,psivdashvarphi$" - that is, we can replace semantic entailment with proof.


            • By the deduction theorem, that's equivalent to "$Tvdashvarphileftrightarrowpsi$."


            • The deduction theorem also has a (much simpler to prove) semantic counterpart: it's easy to show that $T,thetamodelseta$ iff $Tmodelsthetarightarrow eta$, and it follows that ($T,thetamodelseta$ and $T,etamodelstheta$) iff $Tmodelsthetaleftrightarroweta$. So finally, yet another equivalent way to express "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" - and in my opinion the snappiest really - is $$"Tmodelsvarphileftrightarrowpsi."$$ Indeed,it's this last one that I consider the definition of "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent," and I'd consider the equivalences with the other three versions to be (easily proved) theorems.







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              Your last line is right: "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" (which I think is the clearest way to phrase it in natural language) means "$T,varphimodelspsi$ and $T,psimodelsvarphi$."



              (Meanwhile, "$Tmodels (varphimodelspsi wedgepsimodelsvarphi)$" doesn't actually mean anything - we can't "iterate $models$.")



              However, there are a couple other (equivalent) ways to formulate this:




              • By the completeness theorem, that's equivalent to "$T,varphivdashpsi$ and $T,psivdashvarphi$" - that is, we can replace semantic entailment with proof.


              • By the deduction theorem, that's equivalent to "$Tvdashvarphileftrightarrowpsi$."


              • The deduction theorem also has a (much simpler to prove) semantic counterpart: it's easy to show that $T,thetamodelseta$ iff $Tmodelsthetarightarrow eta$, and it follows that ($T,thetamodelseta$ and $T,etamodelstheta$) iff $Tmodelsthetaleftrightarroweta$. So finally, yet another equivalent way to express "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" - and in my opinion the snappiest really - is $$"Tmodelsvarphileftrightarrowpsi."$$ Indeed,it's this last one that I consider the definition of "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent," and I'd consider the equivalences with the other three versions to be (easily proved) theorems.







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                Your last line is right: "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" (which I think is the clearest way to phrase it in natural language) means "$T,varphimodelspsi$ and $T,psimodelsvarphi$."



                (Meanwhile, "$Tmodels (varphimodelspsi wedgepsimodelsvarphi)$" doesn't actually mean anything - we can't "iterate $models$.")



                However, there are a couple other (equivalent) ways to formulate this:




                • By the completeness theorem, that's equivalent to "$T,varphivdashpsi$ and $T,psivdashvarphi$" - that is, we can replace semantic entailment with proof.


                • By the deduction theorem, that's equivalent to "$Tvdashvarphileftrightarrowpsi$."


                • The deduction theorem also has a (much simpler to prove) semantic counterpart: it's easy to show that $T,thetamodelseta$ iff $Tmodelsthetarightarrow eta$, and it follows that ($T,thetamodelseta$ and $T,etamodelstheta$) iff $Tmodelsthetaleftrightarroweta$. So finally, yet another equivalent way to express "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" - and in my opinion the snappiest really - is $$"Tmodelsvarphileftrightarrowpsi."$$ Indeed,it's this last one that I consider the definition of "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent," and I'd consider the equivalences with the other three versions to be (easily proved) theorems.







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                Your last line is right: "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" (which I think is the clearest way to phrase it in natural language) means "$T,varphimodelspsi$ and $T,psimodelsvarphi$."



                (Meanwhile, "$Tmodels (varphimodelspsi wedgepsimodelsvarphi)$" doesn't actually mean anything - we can't "iterate $models$.")



                However, there are a couple other (equivalent) ways to formulate this:




                • By the completeness theorem, that's equivalent to "$T,varphivdashpsi$ and $T,psivdashvarphi$" - that is, we can replace semantic entailment with proof.


                • By the deduction theorem, that's equivalent to "$Tvdashvarphileftrightarrowpsi$."


                • The deduction theorem also has a (much simpler to prove) semantic counterpart: it's easy to show that $T,thetamodelseta$ iff $Tmodelsthetarightarrow eta$, and it follows that ($T,thetamodelseta$ and $T,etamodelstheta$) iff $Tmodelsthetaleftrightarroweta$. So finally, yet another equivalent way to express "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent" - and in my opinion the snappiest really - is $$"Tmodelsvarphileftrightarrowpsi."$$ Indeed,it's this last one that I consider the definition of "$varphi$ and $psi$ are $T$-equivalent," and I'd consider the equivalences with the other three versions to be (easily proved) theorems.








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