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Suppose that $n$ balls are thrown independently and uniformly at random
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EDIT: Sorry, i write wrong question



Correct is: Find the conditional probability that bin $i$ has one ball given that exactly one ball fell into the first three bins.










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    Suppose that $n$ balls are thrown independently and uniformly at random
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    Correct is: Find the conditional probability that bin $i$ has one ball given that exactly one ball fell into the first three bins.










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      Suppose that $n$ balls are thrown independently and uniformly at random
      into $n$ bins.



      EDIT: Sorry, i write wrong question



      Correct is: Find the conditional probability that bin $i$ has one ball given that exactly one ball fell into the first three bins.










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      Suppose that $n$ balls are thrown independently and uniformly at random
      into $n$ bins.



      EDIT: Sorry, i write wrong question



      Correct is: Find the conditional probability that bin $i$ has one ball given that exactly one ball fell into the first three bins.







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      closed as off-topic by Xander Henderson, max_zorn, Leucippus, Eevee Trainer, mrtaurho Jan 14 at 6:23


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          One approach: let $X_1$ and $X_2$ be the number of balls in bins 1 and 2 respectively. Then
          $$P(X_1 < X_2) + P(X_1 > X_2) + P(X_1 = X_2) = 1.$$
          By symmetry, $P(X_1 < X_2) = P(X_1 > X_2)$, so we have
          $$P(X_1 > X_2) = frac{1}{2} (1 - P(X_1 = X_2)).$$
          Now compute $P(X_1 = X_2)$.
          It may help to write it as $$P(X_1 = X_2) = sum_{k=0}^{lfloor n/2 rfloor} P(X_1 = X_2 = k).$$




          begin{align}P(X_1 = X_2 = k) &= P(text{$k$ balls in bin 1, $k$ balls in bin 2, $n-2k$ balls in other bins})\ &= left(binom{n}{k}frac{1}{n^k}right)^2 left(frac{n-2}{n}right)^{n-2k}end{align}







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            Thanks for your answer :) But I have no idea how can I solve this sum :/ Can you give some hints?
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          $begingroup$

          One approach: let $X_1$ and $X_2$ be the number of balls in bins 1 and 2 respectively. Then
          $$P(X_1 < X_2) + P(X_1 > X_2) + P(X_1 = X_2) = 1.$$
          By symmetry, $P(X_1 < X_2) = P(X_1 > X_2)$, so we have
          $$P(X_1 > X_2) = frac{1}{2} (1 - P(X_1 = X_2)).$$
          Now compute $P(X_1 = X_2)$.
          It may help to write it as $$P(X_1 = X_2) = sum_{k=0}^{lfloor n/2 rfloor} P(X_1 = X_2 = k).$$




          begin{align}P(X_1 = X_2 = k) &= P(text{$k$ balls in bin 1, $k$ balls in bin 2, $n-2k$ balls in other bins})\ &= left(binom{n}{k}frac{1}{n^k}right)^2 left(frac{n-2}{n}right)^{n-2k}end{align}







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            Thanks for your answer :) But I have no idea how can I solve this sum :/ Can you give some hints?
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            – user3681666
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          $begingroup$

          One approach: let $X_1$ and $X_2$ be the number of balls in bins 1 and 2 respectively. Then
          $$P(X_1 < X_2) + P(X_1 > X_2) + P(X_1 = X_2) = 1.$$
          By symmetry, $P(X_1 < X_2) = P(X_1 > X_2)$, so we have
          $$P(X_1 > X_2) = frac{1}{2} (1 - P(X_1 = X_2)).$$
          Now compute $P(X_1 = X_2)$.
          It may help to write it as $$P(X_1 = X_2) = sum_{k=0}^{lfloor n/2 rfloor} P(X_1 = X_2 = k).$$




          begin{align}P(X_1 = X_2 = k) &= P(text{$k$ balls in bin 1, $k$ balls in bin 2, $n-2k$ balls in other bins})\ &= left(binom{n}{k}frac{1}{n^k}right)^2 left(frac{n-2}{n}right)^{n-2k}end{align}







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            Thanks for your answer :) But I have no idea how can I solve this sum :/ Can you give some hints?
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            – user3681666
            Jan 13 at 21:19














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          $begingroup$

          One approach: let $X_1$ and $X_2$ be the number of balls in bins 1 and 2 respectively. Then
          $$P(X_1 < X_2) + P(X_1 > X_2) + P(X_1 = X_2) = 1.$$
          By symmetry, $P(X_1 < X_2) = P(X_1 > X_2)$, so we have
          $$P(X_1 > X_2) = frac{1}{2} (1 - P(X_1 = X_2)).$$
          Now compute $P(X_1 = X_2)$.
          It may help to write it as $$P(X_1 = X_2) = sum_{k=0}^{lfloor n/2 rfloor} P(X_1 = X_2 = k).$$




          begin{align}P(X_1 = X_2 = k) &= P(text{$k$ balls in bin 1, $k$ balls in bin 2, $n-2k$ balls in other bins})\ &= left(binom{n}{k}frac{1}{n^k}right)^2 left(frac{n-2}{n}right)^{n-2k}end{align}







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          One approach: let $X_1$ and $X_2$ be the number of balls in bins 1 and 2 respectively. Then
          $$P(X_1 < X_2) + P(X_1 > X_2) + P(X_1 = X_2) = 1.$$
          By symmetry, $P(X_1 < X_2) = P(X_1 > X_2)$, so we have
          $$P(X_1 > X_2) = frac{1}{2} (1 - P(X_1 = X_2)).$$
          Now compute $P(X_1 = X_2)$.
          It may help to write it as $$P(X_1 = X_2) = sum_{k=0}^{lfloor n/2 rfloor} P(X_1 = X_2 = k).$$




          begin{align}P(X_1 = X_2 = k) &= P(text{$k$ balls in bin 1, $k$ balls in bin 2, $n-2k$ balls in other bins})\ &= left(binom{n}{k}frac{1}{n^k}right)^2 left(frac{n-2}{n}right)^{n-2k}end{align}








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            Thanks for your answer :) But I have no idea how can I solve this sum :/ Can you give some hints?
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            – user3681666
            Jan 13 at 21:19


















          • $begingroup$
            Thanks for your answer :) But I have no idea how can I solve this sum :/ Can you give some hints?
            $endgroup$
            – user3681666
            Jan 13 at 21:19
















          $begingroup$
          Thanks for your answer :) But I have no idea how can I solve this sum :/ Can you give some hints?
          $endgroup$
          – user3681666
          Jan 13 at 21:19




          $begingroup$
          Thanks for your answer :) But I have no idea how can I solve this sum :/ Can you give some hints?
          $endgroup$
          – user3681666
          Jan 13 at 21:19



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