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Let V a vector space and $dim_mathbb{K} V = n$. Proof that if m < n and $f_1,..,f_m$ be linear functionals in $mathscr{L}(V,mathbb{K}$). Then, there is a vector nonzero $v in$ V such that $f_i(v)=0$ for $i=1,..,m.$



I am trying to prove the following. Let B = {$v_1,..,v_m,v_{m+1},...,v_n$} a basis of V, I suppose that $hspace{0.4cm}$ {$f_1,..,f_m$} $subset$ B* basis of V*. Then let $v_{m+1}$ $in$ B, we have that



$f_i(v_{m+1})=0, hspace{0.5cm}forall i=1,...n. $



But, if {$f_1,..,f_m$} $notsubset$ B*? what do i do?










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    Let V a vector space and $dim_mathbb{K} V = n$. Proof that if m < n and $f_1,..,f_m$ be linear functionals in $mathscr{L}(V,mathbb{K}$). Then, there is a vector nonzero $v in$ V such that $f_i(v)=0$ for $i=1,..,m.$



    I am trying to prove the following. Let B = {$v_1,..,v_m,v_{m+1},...,v_n$} a basis of V, I suppose that $hspace{0.4cm}$ {$f_1,..,f_m$} $subset$ B* basis of V*. Then let $v_{m+1}$ $in$ B, we have that



    $f_i(v_{m+1})=0, hspace{0.5cm}forall i=1,...n. $



    But, if {$f_1,..,f_m$} $notsubset$ B*? what do i do?










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      Let V a vector space and $dim_mathbb{K} V = n$. Proof that if m < n and $f_1,..,f_m$ be linear functionals in $mathscr{L}(V,mathbb{K}$). Then, there is a vector nonzero $v in$ V such that $f_i(v)=0$ for $i=1,..,m.$



      I am trying to prove the following. Let B = {$v_1,..,v_m,v_{m+1},...,v_n$} a basis of V, I suppose that $hspace{0.4cm}$ {$f_1,..,f_m$} $subset$ B* basis of V*. Then let $v_{m+1}$ $in$ B, we have that



      $f_i(v_{m+1})=0, hspace{0.5cm}forall i=1,...n. $



      But, if {$f_1,..,f_m$} $notsubset$ B*? what do i do?










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      Let V a vector space and $dim_mathbb{K} V = n$. Proof that if m < n and $f_1,..,f_m$ be linear functionals in $mathscr{L}(V,mathbb{K}$). Then, there is a vector nonzero $v in$ V such that $f_i(v)=0$ for $i=1,..,m.$



      I am trying to prove the following. Let B = {$v_1,..,v_m,v_{m+1},...,v_n$} a basis of V, I suppose that $hspace{0.4cm}$ {$f_1,..,f_m$} $subset$ B* basis of V*. Then let $v_{m+1}$ $in$ B, we have that



      $f_i(v_{m+1})=0, hspace{0.5cm}forall i=1,...n. $



      But, if {$f_1,..,f_m$} $notsubset$ B*? what do i do?







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          Hint: The map $T:V to Bbb F^m$ defined by
          $$
          T(v) = (f_1(v),dots,f_m(v))
          $$

          is a linear map from the $n$-dimensional space $V$ to the smaller space $Bbb F^m$. By the rank-nullity theorem, $T$ cannot have a trivial kernel.






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            Thanks a lot. Since $Dim_mathbb{F} KerT >0 $ then there is a nonzero vector $v in V$ such that $v in KerT$, this implies that $f_i(v)=0 forall i=1,...,m.$
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          Hint: $ker f_i$ has dimension at least $n-1$.

          Use the dimension formula to prove that the intersection of an $n-a$ dimensional subspace with an $n-b$ dimensional subspace has dimension at least $n-(a+b)$. Then use induction.






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            Hint: The map $T:V to Bbb F^m$ defined by
            $$
            T(v) = (f_1(v),dots,f_m(v))
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              Thanks a lot. Since $Dim_mathbb{F} KerT >0 $ then there is a nonzero vector $v in V$ such that $v in KerT$, this implies that $f_i(v)=0 forall i=1,...,m.$
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            Hint: The map $T:V to Bbb F^m$ defined by
            $$
            T(v) = (f_1(v),dots,f_m(v))
            $$

            is a linear map from the $n$-dimensional space $V$ to the smaller space $Bbb F^m$. By the rank-nullity theorem, $T$ cannot have a trivial kernel.






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              Thanks a lot. Since $Dim_mathbb{F} KerT >0 $ then there is a nonzero vector $v in V$ such that $v in KerT$, this implies that $f_i(v)=0 forall i=1,...,m.$
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            Hint: The map $T:V to Bbb F^m$ defined by
            $$
            T(v) = (f_1(v),dots,f_m(v))
            $$

            is a linear map from the $n$-dimensional space $V$ to the smaller space $Bbb F^m$. By the rank-nullity theorem, $T$ cannot have a trivial kernel.






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            Hint: The map $T:V to Bbb F^m$ defined by
            $$
            T(v) = (f_1(v),dots,f_m(v))
            $$

            is a linear map from the $n$-dimensional space $V$ to the smaller space $Bbb F^m$. By the rank-nullity theorem, $T$ cannot have a trivial kernel.







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            Thanks a lot. Since $Dim_mathbb{F} KerT >0 $ then there is a nonzero vector $v in V$ such that $v in KerT$, this implies that $f_i(v)=0 forall i=1,...,m.$
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            Thanks a lot. Since $Dim_mathbb{F} KerT >0 $ then there is a nonzero vector $v in V$ such that $v in KerT$, this implies that $f_i(v)=0 forall i=1,...,m.$
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              Hint: $ker f_i$ has dimension at least $n-1$.

              Use the dimension formula to prove that the intersection of an $n-a$ dimensional subspace with an $n-b$ dimensional subspace has dimension at least $n-(a+b)$. Then use induction.






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                Use the dimension formula to prove that the intersection of an $n-a$ dimensional subspace with an $n-b$ dimensional subspace has dimension at least $n-(a+b)$. Then use induction.






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                Hint: $ker f_i$ has dimension at least $n-1$.

                Use the dimension formula to prove that the intersection of an $n-a$ dimensional subspace with an $n-b$ dimensional subspace has dimension at least $n-(a+b)$. Then use induction.







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