In poker, What is the chance of a pair?












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While playing poker last night with my housemates I started wondering, "What is the chance of a pair coming up?" (To clarify, at least one pair).



I started solving it like the birthday problem:




  • Probability that the first card is not a pair is 1. (Since two cards are required for a pair).


  • $A$: Probability that the second card is not a pair of the 1st card is $frac{48}{51}$. (Since there are three other cards which could produce a pair)


  • $B$: Probability that the third card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd is $frac{44}{50} * A$. (Since there are now 6 cards which could produce a pair).


  • $C$: Probability that the fourth card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd is $frac{40}{49} * B * A$


  • $D$: Probability that the fifth card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd or the 4th is $frac{36}{48} * C * B * A$

  • Therefore the probability that there is a pair given 5 cards is $1 - (frac{36}{48} . frac{40}{49} . frac{44}{50} . frac{48}{51})$


More generally the probability that there are no pairs with n cards is $1 - (prod_{i=1}^{n-1}{frac{(52-i) - 3i}{(52 - i)}})$



This morning I found solutions online like this one but they use combinatorics. Is my solution valid? Have I made any mistakes?










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    Does four-of-a-kind count as a pair?
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    – Henry
    Jan 25 at 16:43






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    The video you linked is calculating the probability of exactly 1 pair. What you found is the probability that at least two cards in the hand have the same rank, which could mean there's one pair, two pairs, three of a kind, four of a kind. Also note that your formula only works up to $n=13$ because if $n=14$ there must be a pair by the pidgeonhole principle.
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    @Henry yes at least one pair to clarify
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    – david_adler
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$begingroup$


While playing poker last night with my housemates I started wondering, "What is the chance of a pair coming up?" (To clarify, at least one pair).



I started solving it like the birthday problem:




  • Probability that the first card is not a pair is 1. (Since two cards are required for a pair).


  • $A$: Probability that the second card is not a pair of the 1st card is $frac{48}{51}$. (Since there are three other cards which could produce a pair)


  • $B$: Probability that the third card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd is $frac{44}{50} * A$. (Since there are now 6 cards which could produce a pair).


  • $C$: Probability that the fourth card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd is $frac{40}{49} * B * A$


  • $D$: Probability that the fifth card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd or the 4th is $frac{36}{48} * C * B * A$

  • Therefore the probability that there is a pair given 5 cards is $1 - (frac{36}{48} . frac{40}{49} . frac{44}{50} . frac{48}{51})$


More generally the probability that there are no pairs with n cards is $1 - (prod_{i=1}^{n-1}{frac{(52-i) - 3i}{(52 - i)}})$



This morning I found solutions online like this one but they use combinatorics. Is my solution valid? Have I made any mistakes?










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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Does four-of-a-kind count as a pair?
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Jan 25 at 16:43






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The video you linked is calculating the probability of exactly 1 pair. What you found is the probability that at least two cards in the hand have the same rank, which could mean there's one pair, two pairs, three of a kind, four of a kind. Also note that your formula only works up to $n=13$ because if $n=14$ there must be a pair by the pidgeonhole principle.
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    – kccu
    Jan 25 at 16:46










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    @Henry yes at least one pair to clarify
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    – david_adler
    Jan 25 at 23:49














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$begingroup$


While playing poker last night with my housemates I started wondering, "What is the chance of a pair coming up?" (To clarify, at least one pair).



I started solving it like the birthday problem:




  • Probability that the first card is not a pair is 1. (Since two cards are required for a pair).


  • $A$: Probability that the second card is not a pair of the 1st card is $frac{48}{51}$. (Since there are three other cards which could produce a pair)


  • $B$: Probability that the third card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd is $frac{44}{50} * A$. (Since there are now 6 cards which could produce a pair).


  • $C$: Probability that the fourth card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd is $frac{40}{49} * B * A$


  • $D$: Probability that the fifth card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd or the 4th is $frac{36}{48} * C * B * A$

  • Therefore the probability that there is a pair given 5 cards is $1 - (frac{36}{48} . frac{40}{49} . frac{44}{50} . frac{48}{51})$


More generally the probability that there are no pairs with n cards is $1 - (prod_{i=1}^{n-1}{frac{(52-i) - 3i}{(52 - i)}})$



This morning I found solutions online like this one but they use combinatorics. Is my solution valid? Have I made any mistakes?










share|cite|improve this question











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While playing poker last night with my housemates I started wondering, "What is the chance of a pair coming up?" (To clarify, at least one pair).



I started solving it like the birthday problem:




  • Probability that the first card is not a pair is 1. (Since two cards are required for a pair).


  • $A$: Probability that the second card is not a pair of the 1st card is $frac{48}{51}$. (Since there are three other cards which could produce a pair)


  • $B$: Probability that the third card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd is $frac{44}{50} * A$. (Since there are now 6 cards which could produce a pair).


  • $C$: Probability that the fourth card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd is $frac{40}{49} * B * A$


  • $D$: Probability that the fifth card is not a pair of the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd or the 4th is $frac{36}{48} * C * B * A$

  • Therefore the probability that there is a pair given 5 cards is $1 - (frac{36}{48} . frac{40}{49} . frac{44}{50} . frac{48}{51})$


More generally the probability that there are no pairs with n cards is $1 - (prod_{i=1}^{n-1}{frac{(52-i) - 3i}{(52 - i)}})$



This morning I found solutions online like this one but they use combinatorics. Is my solution valid? Have I made any mistakes?







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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Does four-of-a-kind count as a pair?
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Jan 25 at 16:43






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The video you linked is calculating the probability of exactly 1 pair. What you found is the probability that at least two cards in the hand have the same rank, which could mean there's one pair, two pairs, three of a kind, four of a kind. Also note that your formula only works up to $n=13$ because if $n=14$ there must be a pair by the pidgeonhole principle.
    $endgroup$
    – kccu
    Jan 25 at 16:46










  • $begingroup$
    @Henry yes at least one pair to clarify
    $endgroup$
    – david_adler
    Jan 25 at 23:49














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Does four-of-a-kind count as a pair?
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Jan 25 at 16:43






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The video you linked is calculating the probability of exactly 1 pair. What you found is the probability that at least two cards in the hand have the same rank, which could mean there's one pair, two pairs, three of a kind, four of a kind. Also note that your formula only works up to $n=13$ because if $n=14$ there must be a pair by the pidgeonhole principle.
    $endgroup$
    – kccu
    Jan 25 at 16:46










  • $begingroup$
    @Henry yes at least one pair to clarify
    $endgroup$
    – david_adler
    Jan 25 at 23:49








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$begingroup$
Does four-of-a-kind count as a pair?
$endgroup$
– Henry
Jan 25 at 16:43




$begingroup$
Does four-of-a-kind count as a pair?
$endgroup$
– Henry
Jan 25 at 16:43




1




1




$begingroup$
The video you linked is calculating the probability of exactly 1 pair. What you found is the probability that at least two cards in the hand have the same rank, which could mean there's one pair, two pairs, three of a kind, four of a kind. Also note that your formula only works up to $n=13$ because if $n=14$ there must be a pair by the pidgeonhole principle.
$endgroup$
– kccu
Jan 25 at 16:46




$begingroup$
The video you linked is calculating the probability of exactly 1 pair. What you found is the probability that at least two cards in the hand have the same rank, which could mean there's one pair, two pairs, three of a kind, four of a kind. Also note that your formula only works up to $n=13$ because if $n=14$ there must be a pair by the pidgeonhole principle.
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– kccu
Jan 25 at 16:46












$begingroup$
@Henry yes at least one pair to clarify
$endgroup$
– david_adler
Jan 25 at 23:49




$begingroup$
@Henry yes at least one pair to clarify
$endgroup$
– david_adler
Jan 25 at 23:49










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