Inequality with roots and bivariate quadratic forms
For $|a|le 1$ and $|b|le 1$ show that
$$sqrt{1 - b^2}sqrt{1 - a} le frac{sqrt{6}(1-frac{3}{4}b)(7a^2b^2 + 96a^2b + 65a^2 + 14ab^2 + 42a + 7b^2 - 96b - 135)}{43a^2b^2 + 129a^2 + 86ab^2 - 86a + 43b^2 - 327}
$$
Numerical checks confirm this involved inequality. I tried expansions of the roots and clearing denominators, but didn't succeed. It holds with equality for $a=b=1$ and $a=-b=1$. Hints are welcome. Since numerator and denominator are bivariate quadratic forms, also a geometric interpretation might be helpful.
inequality quadratic-forms
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For $|a|le 1$ and $|b|le 1$ show that
$$sqrt{1 - b^2}sqrt{1 - a} le frac{sqrt{6}(1-frac{3}{4}b)(7a^2b^2 + 96a^2b + 65a^2 + 14ab^2 + 42a + 7b^2 - 96b - 135)}{43a^2b^2 + 129a^2 + 86ab^2 - 86a + 43b^2 - 327}
$$
Numerical checks confirm this involved inequality. I tried expansions of the roots and clearing denominators, but didn't succeed. It holds with equality for $a=b=1$ and $a=-b=1$. Hints are welcome. Since numerator and denominator are bivariate quadratic forms, also a geometric interpretation might be helpful.
inequality quadratic-forms
quadratic form? Degree varies from 4 to zero.
– Macavity
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For $|a|le 1$ and $|b|le 1$ show that
$$sqrt{1 - b^2}sqrt{1 - a} le frac{sqrt{6}(1-frac{3}{4}b)(7a^2b^2 + 96a^2b + 65a^2 + 14ab^2 + 42a + 7b^2 - 96b - 135)}{43a^2b^2 + 129a^2 + 86ab^2 - 86a + 43b^2 - 327}
$$
Numerical checks confirm this involved inequality. I tried expansions of the roots and clearing denominators, but didn't succeed. It holds with equality for $a=b=1$ and $a=-b=1$. Hints are welcome. Since numerator and denominator are bivariate quadratic forms, also a geometric interpretation might be helpful.
inequality quadratic-forms
For $|a|le 1$ and $|b|le 1$ show that
$$sqrt{1 - b^2}sqrt{1 - a} le frac{sqrt{6}(1-frac{3}{4}b)(7a^2b^2 + 96a^2b + 65a^2 + 14ab^2 + 42a + 7b^2 - 96b - 135)}{43a^2b^2 + 129a^2 + 86ab^2 - 86a + 43b^2 - 327}
$$
Numerical checks confirm this involved inequality. I tried expansions of the roots and clearing denominators, but didn't succeed. It holds with equality for $a=b=1$ and $a=-b=1$. Hints are welcome. Since numerator and denominator are bivariate quadratic forms, also a geometric interpretation might be helpful.
inequality quadratic-forms
inequality quadratic-forms
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quadratic form? Degree varies from 4 to zero.
– Macavity
yesterday
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quadratic form? Degree varies from 4 to zero.
– Macavity
yesterday
quadratic form? Degree varies from 4 to zero.
– Macavity
yesterday
quadratic form? Degree varies from 4 to zero.
– Macavity
yesterday
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no idea. The denominator really is nonzero on your square, namely less than zero
Thanks. The numerator is also nonpositive.
– Andreas
yesterday
I was firstly looking for a general way to approach such a problem, the full solution could wait .....
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no idea. The denominator really is nonzero on your square, namely less than zero
Thanks. The numerator is also nonpositive.
– Andreas
yesterday
I was firstly looking for a general way to approach such a problem, the full solution could wait .....
– Andreas
yesterday
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no idea. The denominator really is nonzero on your square, namely less than zero
Thanks. The numerator is also nonpositive.
– Andreas
yesterday
I was firstly looking for a general way to approach such a problem, the full solution could wait .....
– Andreas
yesterday
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no idea. The denominator really is nonzero on your square, namely less than zero
no idea. The denominator really is nonzero on your square, namely less than zero
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Thanks. The numerator is also nonpositive.
– Andreas
yesterday
I was firstly looking for a general way to approach such a problem, the full solution could wait .....
– Andreas
yesterday
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Thanks. The numerator is also nonpositive.
– Andreas
yesterday
I was firstly looking for a general way to approach such a problem, the full solution could wait .....
– Andreas
yesterday
Thanks. The numerator is also nonpositive.
– Andreas
yesterday
Thanks. The numerator is also nonpositive.
– Andreas
yesterday
I was firstly looking for a general way to approach such a problem, the full solution could wait .....
– Andreas
yesterday
I was firstly looking for a general way to approach such a problem, the full solution could wait .....
– Andreas
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quadratic form? Degree varies from 4 to zero.
– Macavity
yesterday