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The number of ways of selecting 10 objects from 30 objects, of which 10 are alike and the rest are all different is ?
A) $2^{20} + binom{20}{10}$
B) $2^{20} - binom{20}{9}$
C) $2^{19} + binom{20}{9}$
D) $2^{19} - binom{20}{10}$
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The number of ways of selecting 10 objects from 30 objects, of which 10 are alike and the rest are all different is ?
A) $2^{20} + binom{20}{10}$
B) $2^{20} - binom{20}{9}$
C) $2^{19} + binom{20}{9}$
D) $2^{19} - binom{20}{10}$
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Then you essentially only have $21$ objects to choose from, in which case the answer would be $C^{21}_{10}$
– glowstonetrees
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Nope cause you can choose like 5 of the alike things and then 5 distinct things and such combinations
– Vysakh AV
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Question based on Permutations and Combinations
The number of ways of selecting 10 objects from 30 objects, of which 10 are alike and the rest are all different is ?
A) $2^{20} + binom{20}{10}$
B) $2^{20} - binom{20}{9}$
C) $2^{19} + binom{20}{9}$
D) $2^{19} - binom{20}{10}$
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Question based on Permutations and Combinations
The number of ways of selecting 10 objects from 30 objects, of which 10 are alike and the rest are all different is ?
A) $2^{20} + binom{20}{10}$
B) $2^{20} - binom{20}{9}$
C) $2^{19} + binom{20}{9}$
D) $2^{19} - binom{20}{10}$
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Then you essentially only have $21$ objects to choose from, in which case the answer would be $C^{21}_{10}$
– glowstonetrees
yesterday
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Nope cause you can choose like 5 of the alike things and then 5 distinct things and such combinations
– Vysakh AV
yesterday
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Then you essentially only have $21$ objects to choose from, in which case the answer would be $C^{21}_{10}$
– glowstonetrees
yesterday
4
Nope cause you can choose like 5 of the alike things and then 5 distinct things and such combinations
– Vysakh AV
yesterday
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Then you essentially only have $21$ objects to choose from, in which case the answer would be $C^{21}_{10}$
– glowstonetrees
yesterday
Then you essentially only have $21$ objects to choose from, in which case the answer would be $C^{21}_{10}$
– glowstonetrees
yesterday
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Nope cause you can choose like 5 of the alike things and then 5 distinct things and such combinations
– Vysakh AV
yesterday
Nope cause you can choose like 5 of the alike things and then 5 distinct things and such combinations
– Vysakh AV
yesterday
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If you choose $n$ of the unique object, then there are $20choose n$ ways to pick those, and $1$ to pick the other $10-n$ non-unique ones. So the answer is
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n}$$
By symmetry, we have
$$2sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = sum_{n=0}^{20} {20choose n} + {20choose 10} = 2^{20} + {20choose 10}$$
So
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = 2^{19} + frac12{20choose 10}$$
And ${19choose10} = {19choose9}$ and ${19choose10} + {19choose9} = {20choose10}$ by Pascal's Identity, so this gives $frac12 {20choose10} = {19choose9}$ so the final answer is
$$2^{19} + {19choose 9}$$
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Suppose you pick $p$ objects from the set $P$ of identical objects, and let the set $Q$ be that of the other $20$ objects. Scaling $p$ in the range $[0, 10]$ and permuting the ways to complete the $10$ with $Q$ gives us:
$$sum_{p=0}^{10}binom{20}{10-p}$$
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If you choose $n$ of the unique object, then there are $20choose n$ ways to pick those, and $1$ to pick the other $10-n$ non-unique ones. So the answer is
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n}$$
By symmetry, we have
$$2sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = sum_{n=0}^{20} {20choose n} + {20choose 10} = 2^{20} + {20choose 10}$$
So
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = 2^{19} + frac12{20choose 10}$$
And ${19choose10} = {19choose9}$ and ${19choose10} + {19choose9} = {20choose10}$ by Pascal's Identity, so this gives $frac12 {20choose10} = {19choose9}$ so the final answer is
$$2^{19} + {19choose 9}$$
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If you choose $n$ of the unique object, then there are $20choose n$ ways to pick those, and $1$ to pick the other $10-n$ non-unique ones. So the answer is
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n}$$
By symmetry, we have
$$2sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = sum_{n=0}^{20} {20choose n} + {20choose 10} = 2^{20} + {20choose 10}$$
So
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = 2^{19} + frac12{20choose 10}$$
And ${19choose10} = {19choose9}$ and ${19choose10} + {19choose9} = {20choose10}$ by Pascal's Identity, so this gives $frac12 {20choose10} = {19choose9}$ so the final answer is
$$2^{19} + {19choose 9}$$
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If you choose $n$ of the unique object, then there are $20choose n$ ways to pick those, and $1$ to pick the other $10-n$ non-unique ones. So the answer is
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n}$$
By symmetry, we have
$$2sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = sum_{n=0}^{20} {20choose n} + {20choose 10} = 2^{20} + {20choose 10}$$
So
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = 2^{19} + frac12{20choose 10}$$
And ${19choose10} = {19choose9}$ and ${19choose10} + {19choose9} = {20choose10}$ by Pascal's Identity, so this gives $frac12 {20choose10} = {19choose9}$ so the final answer is
$$2^{19} + {19choose 9}$$
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If you choose $n$ of the unique object, then there are $20choose n$ ways to pick those, and $1$ to pick the other $10-n$ non-unique ones. So the answer is
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n}$$
By symmetry, we have
$$2sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = sum_{n=0}^{20} {20choose n} + {20choose 10} = 2^{20} + {20choose 10}$$
So
$$sum_{n=0}^{10} {20choose n} = 2^{19} + frac12{20choose 10}$$
And ${19choose10} = {19choose9}$ and ${19choose10} + {19choose9} = {20choose10}$ by Pascal's Identity, so this gives $frac12 {20choose10} = {19choose9}$ so the final answer is
$$2^{19} + {19choose 9}$$
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Suppose you pick $p$ objects from the set $P$ of identical objects, and let the set $Q$ be that of the other $20$ objects. Scaling $p$ in the range $[0, 10]$ and permuting the ways to complete the $10$ with $Q$ gives us:
$$sum_{p=0}^{10}binom{20}{10-p}$$
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Suppose you pick $p$ objects from the set $P$ of identical objects, and let the set $Q$ be that of the other $20$ objects. Scaling $p$ in the range $[0, 10]$ and permuting the ways to complete the $10$ with $Q$ gives us:
$$sum_{p=0}^{10}binom{20}{10-p}$$
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Suppose you pick $p$ objects from the set $P$ of identical objects, and let the set $Q$ be that of the other $20$ objects. Scaling $p$ in the range $[0, 10]$ and permuting the ways to complete the $10$ with $Q$ gives us:
$$sum_{p=0}^{10}binom{20}{10-p}$$
Suppose you pick $p$ objects from the set $P$ of identical objects, and let the set $Q$ be that of the other $20$ objects. Scaling $p$ in the range $[0, 10]$ and permuting the ways to complete the $10$ with $Q$ gives us:
$$sum_{p=0}^{10}binom{20}{10-p}$$
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Then you essentially only have $21$ objects to choose from, in which case the answer would be $C^{21}_{10}$
– glowstonetrees
yesterday
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Nope cause you can choose like 5 of the alike things and then 5 distinct things and such combinations
– Vysakh AV
yesterday