$|z|=z^5$ How many solutions does this equation have?
Multiple choice question : How many solutions does the equation $|z|=z^5$ have?
A - $1$ solution
B - $2$ solutions
C - $5$ solutions
D - $6$ solutions
These were the $4$ possible answers.
I started by allowing $z^5in Bbb R$.
$|z|=|z|^5$ which led me to $|z|=1$ or $|z|=0$.
I found $2$ obvious solutions, $z=1$ and $z=0$
However I couldn't find any other complex solutions; and the B answer was not correct.
I have also tried to expand with $z=a+ib$ but couldn't find anything, still.
The correct answer was D but I couldn't understand why.
Excuse my English, I am not used to doing maths in English.
complex-analysis complex-numbers
New contributor
add a comment |
Multiple choice question : How many solutions does the equation $|z|=z^5$ have?
A - $1$ solution
B - $2$ solutions
C - $5$ solutions
D - $6$ solutions
These were the $4$ possible answers.
I started by allowing $z^5in Bbb R$.
$|z|=|z|^5$ which led me to $|z|=1$ or $|z|=0$.
I found $2$ obvious solutions, $z=1$ and $z=0$
However I couldn't find any other complex solutions; and the B answer was not correct.
I have also tried to expand with $z=a+ib$ but couldn't find anything, still.
The correct answer was D but I couldn't understand why.
Excuse my English, I am not used to doing maths in English.
complex-analysis complex-numbers
New contributor
add a comment |
Multiple choice question : How many solutions does the equation $|z|=z^5$ have?
A - $1$ solution
B - $2$ solutions
C - $5$ solutions
D - $6$ solutions
These were the $4$ possible answers.
I started by allowing $z^5in Bbb R$.
$|z|=|z|^5$ which led me to $|z|=1$ or $|z|=0$.
I found $2$ obvious solutions, $z=1$ and $z=0$
However I couldn't find any other complex solutions; and the B answer was not correct.
I have also tried to expand with $z=a+ib$ but couldn't find anything, still.
The correct answer was D but I couldn't understand why.
Excuse my English, I am not used to doing maths in English.
complex-analysis complex-numbers
New contributor
Multiple choice question : How many solutions does the equation $|z|=z^5$ have?
A - $1$ solution
B - $2$ solutions
C - $5$ solutions
D - $6$ solutions
These were the $4$ possible answers.
I started by allowing $z^5in Bbb R$.
$|z|=|z|^5$ which led me to $|z|=1$ or $|z|=0$.
I found $2$ obvious solutions, $z=1$ and $z=0$
However I couldn't find any other complex solutions; and the B answer was not correct.
I have also tried to expand with $z=a+ib$ but couldn't find anything, still.
The correct answer was D but I couldn't understand why.
Excuse my English, I am not used to doing maths in English.
complex-analysis complex-numbers
complex-analysis complex-numbers
New contributor
New contributor
edited Jan 6 at 17:39
José Carlos Santos
152k22123225
152k22123225
New contributor
asked Jan 6 at 17:21
CaioCaio
61
61
New contributor
New contributor
add a comment |
add a comment |
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
Any $5$-th root of $1$ is also a solution. With zero, this makes $6$ solutions in total.
You mean 4th root, no ? btw, $z^5$ must be real, so not that much solution...
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:29
@NewMath For any $5$-th root $z$ of $1$ you have $z^5=1$ and $vert z vert =1$. Hence this is a root of the equation provided.
– mathcounterexamples.net
Jan 6 at 17:31
add a comment |
It is indeed true that$$lvert zrvert=z^5implieslvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.$$However, I don't understand your proof. You can prove it as follows:begin{align}lvert zrvert=z^5implies&bigllvertlvert zrvertbigllvert=lvert z^5rvert\iff&lvert zrvert=lvert zrvert^5\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert^4=1\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.end{align}If $lvert zrvert=0$, then $z=0$ and $0$ is indeed a solution. And if $lvert zrvert=1$, the equation becomes $z^5=1$. So, take the $5$ fifth roots of $1$.
Shouldn't it be $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$ instead of $|z|=1$ ?
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:31
I've edited my answer. I hope that everything is clear now.
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 6 at 17:35
@NewMath While indeed $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$, you want to solve the stronger $|z|=z^5$.
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 6 at 17:48
add a comment |
$$
eqalign{
& left| z right| = z^{,5} ,quad mathop Rightarrow limits^{z = Ae^{,i,alpha } } quad A = A^{,5} e^{,i,5alpha } quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = A^{,5} } cr
{e^{,i,5alpha } = 1} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = 0,1} cr
{alpha = 2kpi /5} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad z = 0,e^{,2kpi /5} ;left| {;k = 0, cdots ,4} right.quad Rightarrow quad 6quad sol. cr}
$$
thank you all this was very helpful
– Caio
Jan 6 at 18:01
@Caio: wish it is also clear which is the step-wise approach you should take not to entangle in the common "traps" of complex calculus
– G Cab
Jan 6 at 18:22
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Caio is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3064138%2fz-z5-how-many-solutions-does-this-equation-have%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
Any $5$-th root of $1$ is also a solution. With zero, this makes $6$ solutions in total.
You mean 4th root, no ? btw, $z^5$ must be real, so not that much solution...
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:29
@NewMath For any $5$-th root $z$ of $1$ you have $z^5=1$ and $vert z vert =1$. Hence this is a root of the equation provided.
– mathcounterexamples.net
Jan 6 at 17:31
add a comment |
Any $5$-th root of $1$ is also a solution. With zero, this makes $6$ solutions in total.
You mean 4th root, no ? btw, $z^5$ must be real, so not that much solution...
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:29
@NewMath For any $5$-th root $z$ of $1$ you have $z^5=1$ and $vert z vert =1$. Hence this is a root of the equation provided.
– mathcounterexamples.net
Jan 6 at 17:31
add a comment |
Any $5$-th root of $1$ is also a solution. With zero, this makes $6$ solutions in total.
Any $5$-th root of $1$ is also a solution. With zero, this makes $6$ solutions in total.
answered Jan 6 at 17:25
mathcounterexamples.netmathcounterexamples.net
25.3k21953
25.3k21953
You mean 4th root, no ? btw, $z^5$ must be real, so not that much solution...
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:29
@NewMath For any $5$-th root $z$ of $1$ you have $z^5=1$ and $vert z vert =1$. Hence this is a root of the equation provided.
– mathcounterexamples.net
Jan 6 at 17:31
add a comment |
You mean 4th root, no ? btw, $z^5$ must be real, so not that much solution...
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:29
@NewMath For any $5$-th root $z$ of $1$ you have $z^5=1$ and $vert z vert =1$. Hence this is a root of the equation provided.
– mathcounterexamples.net
Jan 6 at 17:31
You mean 4th root, no ? btw, $z^5$ must be real, so not that much solution...
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:29
You mean 4th root, no ? btw, $z^5$ must be real, so not that much solution...
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:29
@NewMath For any $5$-th root $z$ of $1$ you have $z^5=1$ and $vert z vert =1$. Hence this is a root of the equation provided.
– mathcounterexamples.net
Jan 6 at 17:31
@NewMath For any $5$-th root $z$ of $1$ you have $z^5=1$ and $vert z vert =1$. Hence this is a root of the equation provided.
– mathcounterexamples.net
Jan 6 at 17:31
add a comment |
It is indeed true that$$lvert zrvert=z^5implieslvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.$$However, I don't understand your proof. You can prove it as follows:begin{align}lvert zrvert=z^5implies&bigllvertlvert zrvertbigllvert=lvert z^5rvert\iff&lvert zrvert=lvert zrvert^5\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert^4=1\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.end{align}If $lvert zrvert=0$, then $z=0$ and $0$ is indeed a solution. And if $lvert zrvert=1$, the equation becomes $z^5=1$. So, take the $5$ fifth roots of $1$.
Shouldn't it be $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$ instead of $|z|=1$ ?
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:31
I've edited my answer. I hope that everything is clear now.
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 6 at 17:35
@NewMath While indeed $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$, you want to solve the stronger $|z|=z^5$.
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 6 at 17:48
add a comment |
It is indeed true that$$lvert zrvert=z^5implieslvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.$$However, I don't understand your proof. You can prove it as follows:begin{align}lvert zrvert=z^5implies&bigllvertlvert zrvertbigllvert=lvert z^5rvert\iff&lvert zrvert=lvert zrvert^5\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert^4=1\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.end{align}If $lvert zrvert=0$, then $z=0$ and $0$ is indeed a solution. And if $lvert zrvert=1$, the equation becomes $z^5=1$. So, take the $5$ fifth roots of $1$.
Shouldn't it be $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$ instead of $|z|=1$ ?
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:31
I've edited my answer. I hope that everything is clear now.
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 6 at 17:35
@NewMath While indeed $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$, you want to solve the stronger $|z|=z^5$.
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 6 at 17:48
add a comment |
It is indeed true that$$lvert zrvert=z^5implieslvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.$$However, I don't understand your proof. You can prove it as follows:begin{align}lvert zrvert=z^5implies&bigllvertlvert zrvertbigllvert=lvert z^5rvert\iff&lvert zrvert=lvert zrvert^5\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert^4=1\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.end{align}If $lvert zrvert=0$, then $z=0$ and $0$ is indeed a solution. And if $lvert zrvert=1$, the equation becomes $z^5=1$. So, take the $5$ fifth roots of $1$.
It is indeed true that$$lvert zrvert=z^5implieslvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.$$However, I don't understand your proof. You can prove it as follows:begin{align}lvert zrvert=z^5implies&bigllvertlvert zrvertbigllvert=lvert z^5rvert\iff&lvert zrvert=lvert zrvert^5\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert^4=1\iff&lvert zrvert=0veelvert zrvert=1.end{align}If $lvert zrvert=0$, then $z=0$ and $0$ is indeed a solution. And if $lvert zrvert=1$, the equation becomes $z^5=1$. So, take the $5$ fifth roots of $1$.
edited Jan 6 at 17:34
answered Jan 6 at 17:28
José Carlos SantosJosé Carlos Santos
152k22123225
152k22123225
Shouldn't it be $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$ instead of $|z|=1$ ?
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:31
I've edited my answer. I hope that everything is clear now.
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 6 at 17:35
@NewMath While indeed $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$, you want to solve the stronger $|z|=z^5$.
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 6 at 17:48
add a comment |
Shouldn't it be $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$ instead of $|z|=1$ ?
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:31
I've edited my answer. I hope that everything is clear now.
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 6 at 17:35
@NewMath While indeed $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$, you want to solve the stronger $|z|=z^5$.
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 6 at 17:48
Shouldn't it be $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$ instead of $|z|=1$ ?
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:31
Shouldn't it be $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$ instead of $|z|=1$ ?
– NewMath
Jan 6 at 17:31
I've edited my answer. I hope that everything is clear now.
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 6 at 17:35
I've edited my answer. I hope that everything is clear now.
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 6 at 17:35
@NewMath While indeed $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$, you want to solve the stronger $|z|=z^5$.
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 6 at 17:48
@NewMath While indeed $|z|=|z|^5iff |z|=0vee |z|^4=1$, you want to solve the stronger $|z|=z^5$.
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 6 at 17:48
add a comment |
$$
eqalign{
& left| z right| = z^{,5} ,quad mathop Rightarrow limits^{z = Ae^{,i,alpha } } quad A = A^{,5} e^{,i,5alpha } quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = A^{,5} } cr
{e^{,i,5alpha } = 1} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = 0,1} cr
{alpha = 2kpi /5} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad z = 0,e^{,2kpi /5} ;left| {;k = 0, cdots ,4} right.quad Rightarrow quad 6quad sol. cr}
$$
thank you all this was very helpful
– Caio
Jan 6 at 18:01
@Caio: wish it is also clear which is the step-wise approach you should take not to entangle in the common "traps" of complex calculus
– G Cab
Jan 6 at 18:22
add a comment |
$$
eqalign{
& left| z right| = z^{,5} ,quad mathop Rightarrow limits^{z = Ae^{,i,alpha } } quad A = A^{,5} e^{,i,5alpha } quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = A^{,5} } cr
{e^{,i,5alpha } = 1} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = 0,1} cr
{alpha = 2kpi /5} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad z = 0,e^{,2kpi /5} ;left| {;k = 0, cdots ,4} right.quad Rightarrow quad 6quad sol. cr}
$$
thank you all this was very helpful
– Caio
Jan 6 at 18:01
@Caio: wish it is also clear which is the step-wise approach you should take not to entangle in the common "traps" of complex calculus
– G Cab
Jan 6 at 18:22
add a comment |
$$
eqalign{
& left| z right| = z^{,5} ,quad mathop Rightarrow limits^{z = Ae^{,i,alpha } } quad A = A^{,5} e^{,i,5alpha } quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = A^{,5} } cr
{e^{,i,5alpha } = 1} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = 0,1} cr
{alpha = 2kpi /5} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad z = 0,e^{,2kpi /5} ;left| {;k = 0, cdots ,4} right.quad Rightarrow quad 6quad sol. cr}
$$
$$
eqalign{
& left| z right| = z^{,5} ,quad mathop Rightarrow limits^{z = Ae^{,i,alpha } } quad A = A^{,5} e^{,i,5alpha } quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = A^{,5} } cr
{e^{,i,5alpha } = 1} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow quad left{ {matrix{
{A = 0,1} cr
{alpha = 2kpi /5} cr
} } right.quad Rightarrow cr
& Rightarrow quad z = 0,e^{,2kpi /5} ;left| {;k = 0, cdots ,4} right.quad Rightarrow quad 6quad sol. cr}
$$
answered Jan 6 at 17:36
G CabG Cab
18.1k31237
18.1k31237
thank you all this was very helpful
– Caio
Jan 6 at 18:01
@Caio: wish it is also clear which is the step-wise approach you should take not to entangle in the common "traps" of complex calculus
– G Cab
Jan 6 at 18:22
add a comment |
thank you all this was very helpful
– Caio
Jan 6 at 18:01
@Caio: wish it is also clear which is the step-wise approach you should take not to entangle in the common "traps" of complex calculus
– G Cab
Jan 6 at 18:22
thank you all this was very helpful
– Caio
Jan 6 at 18:01
thank you all this was very helpful
– Caio
Jan 6 at 18:01
@Caio: wish it is also clear which is the step-wise approach you should take not to entangle in the common "traps" of complex calculus
– G Cab
Jan 6 at 18:22
@Caio: wish it is also clear which is the step-wise approach you should take not to entangle in the common "traps" of complex calculus
– G Cab
Jan 6 at 18:22
add a comment |
Caio is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Caio is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Caio is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Caio is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3064138%2fz-z5-how-many-solutions-does-this-equation-have%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown