Should the determinant of a $0times 0$ matrix be defined as $0$ or $1$? [duplicate]












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Let $A$ be the $0times 0$ matrix and let $det(A)$ be its determinant. I am wondering if $det(A)$ should be defined as $0$ or $1$.




  • If we use the definition that determinant of an $ntimes n$ matrix $(a_{ij})$ be defined as $displaystylesum(-1)^{tau(j_1cdots j_n)}a_{1j_1}cdots a_{n{j_n}}$, where $tau(j_1cdots j_n)$ is the inversion number of the permutation $j_1cdots j_n$, then since there is no term present, $det(A)$ should be defined as $0$.

  • If we expand the $1times 1$ matrix $(1)$ along the first row, we obtain


$$1=det(1)=1cdotdet(A),$$ which implies that $det(A)$ should be defined as $1$.



Which definition of the determinant of the $0times 0$ matrix $A$, if any, makes more sense here?










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    Honest nonsnarky question: why does it matter?
    – Randall
    19 hours ago










  • The definition of a determinant would give an empty sum, which conventionally is $0$.
    – Oscar Lanzi
    19 hours ago










  • Some arguments here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1762537/… and here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1913141/…
    – Martin R
    19 hours ago








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    This is very similar to the question as to whether $0^0$ should be zero or one.
    – amsmath
    18 hours ago






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    @Peter Because when we solve this problem for a $0times0$ matrix, we can move to $-1times-1$ matrix :)
    – Oldboy
    17 hours ago
















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This question already has an answer here:




  • What is the determinant of ? [closed]

    2 answers



  • Is the 0x0 matrix (zero-times-zero matrix) a well-defined concept?

    1 answer




Let $A$ be the $0times 0$ matrix and let $det(A)$ be its determinant. I am wondering if $det(A)$ should be defined as $0$ or $1$.




  • If we use the definition that determinant of an $ntimes n$ matrix $(a_{ij})$ be defined as $displaystylesum(-1)^{tau(j_1cdots j_n)}a_{1j_1}cdots a_{n{j_n}}$, where $tau(j_1cdots j_n)$ is the inversion number of the permutation $j_1cdots j_n$, then since there is no term present, $det(A)$ should be defined as $0$.

  • If we expand the $1times 1$ matrix $(1)$ along the first row, we obtain


$$1=det(1)=1cdotdet(A),$$ which implies that $det(A)$ should be defined as $1$.



Which definition of the determinant of the $0times 0$ matrix $A$, if any, makes more sense here?










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marked as duplicate by Peter, Dietrich Burde, Ross Millikan, egreg, ccorn 16 hours ago


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    Honest nonsnarky question: why does it matter?
    – Randall
    19 hours ago










  • The definition of a determinant would give an empty sum, which conventionally is $0$.
    – Oscar Lanzi
    19 hours ago










  • Some arguments here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1762537/… and here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1913141/…
    – Martin R
    19 hours ago








  • 2




    This is very similar to the question as to whether $0^0$ should be zero or one.
    – amsmath
    18 hours ago






  • 2




    @Peter Because when we solve this problem for a $0times0$ matrix, we can move to $-1times-1$ matrix :)
    – Oldboy
    17 hours ago














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This question already has an answer here:




  • What is the determinant of ? [closed]

    2 answers



  • Is the 0x0 matrix (zero-times-zero matrix) a well-defined concept?

    1 answer




Let $A$ be the $0times 0$ matrix and let $det(A)$ be its determinant. I am wondering if $det(A)$ should be defined as $0$ or $1$.




  • If we use the definition that determinant of an $ntimes n$ matrix $(a_{ij})$ be defined as $displaystylesum(-1)^{tau(j_1cdots j_n)}a_{1j_1}cdots a_{n{j_n}}$, where $tau(j_1cdots j_n)$ is the inversion number of the permutation $j_1cdots j_n$, then since there is no term present, $det(A)$ should be defined as $0$.

  • If we expand the $1times 1$ matrix $(1)$ along the first row, we obtain


$$1=det(1)=1cdotdet(A),$$ which implies that $det(A)$ should be defined as $1$.



Which definition of the determinant of the $0times 0$ matrix $A$, if any, makes more sense here?










share|cite|improve this question














This question already has an answer here:




  • What is the determinant of ? [closed]

    2 answers



  • Is the 0x0 matrix (zero-times-zero matrix) a well-defined concept?

    1 answer




Let $A$ be the $0times 0$ matrix and let $det(A)$ be its determinant. I am wondering if $det(A)$ should be defined as $0$ or $1$.




  • If we use the definition that determinant of an $ntimes n$ matrix $(a_{ij})$ be defined as $displaystylesum(-1)^{tau(j_1cdots j_n)}a_{1j_1}cdots a_{n{j_n}}$, where $tau(j_1cdots j_n)$ is the inversion number of the permutation $j_1cdots j_n$, then since there is no term present, $det(A)$ should be defined as $0$.

  • If we expand the $1times 1$ matrix $(1)$ along the first row, we obtain


$$1=det(1)=1cdotdet(A),$$ which implies that $det(A)$ should be defined as $1$.



Which definition of the determinant of the $0times 0$ matrix $A$, if any, makes more sense here?





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  • What is the determinant of ? [closed]

    2 answers



  • Is the 0x0 matrix (zero-times-zero matrix) a well-defined concept?

    1 answer








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  • 3




    Honest nonsnarky question: why does it matter?
    – Randall
    19 hours ago










  • The definition of a determinant would give an empty sum, which conventionally is $0$.
    – Oscar Lanzi
    19 hours ago










  • Some arguments here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1762537/… and here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1913141/…
    – Martin R
    19 hours ago








  • 2




    This is very similar to the question as to whether $0^0$ should be zero or one.
    – amsmath
    18 hours ago






  • 2




    @Peter Because when we solve this problem for a $0times0$ matrix, we can move to $-1times-1$ matrix :)
    – Oldboy
    17 hours ago














  • 3




    Honest nonsnarky question: why does it matter?
    – Randall
    19 hours ago










  • The definition of a determinant would give an empty sum, which conventionally is $0$.
    – Oscar Lanzi
    19 hours ago










  • Some arguments here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1762537/… and here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1913141/…
    – Martin R
    19 hours ago








  • 2




    This is very similar to the question as to whether $0^0$ should be zero or one.
    – amsmath
    18 hours ago






  • 2




    @Peter Because when we solve this problem for a $0times0$ matrix, we can move to $-1times-1$ matrix :)
    – Oldboy
    17 hours ago








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Honest nonsnarky question: why does it matter?
– Randall
19 hours ago




Honest nonsnarky question: why does it matter?
– Randall
19 hours ago












The definition of a determinant would give an empty sum, which conventionally is $0$.
– Oscar Lanzi
19 hours ago




The definition of a determinant would give an empty sum, which conventionally is $0$.
– Oscar Lanzi
19 hours ago












Some arguments here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1762537/… and here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1913141/…
– Martin R
19 hours ago






Some arguments here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1762537/… and here: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1913141/…
– Martin R
19 hours ago






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This is very similar to the question as to whether $0^0$ should be zero or one.
– amsmath
18 hours ago




This is very similar to the question as to whether $0^0$ should be zero or one.
– amsmath
18 hours ago




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@Peter Because when we solve this problem for a $0times0$ matrix, we can move to $-1times-1$ matrix :)
– Oldboy
17 hours ago




@Peter Because when we solve this problem for a $0times0$ matrix, we can move to $-1times-1$ matrix :)
– Oldboy
17 hours ago










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