How can I show that $sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrtldots}}}$ exists?












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I would like to investigate the convergence of



$$sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{4+sqrtldots}}}}$$



Or more precisely, let $$begin{align}
a_1 & = sqrt 1\
a_2 & = sqrt{1+sqrt2}\
a_3 & = sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt 3}}\
a_4 & = sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt 4}}}\
&vdots
end{align}$$



Easy computer calculations suggest that this sequence converges rapidly to the value 1.75793275661800453265, so I handed this number to the all-seeing Google, which produced:




  • OEIS A072449

  • "Nested Radical Constant" from MathWorld


Henceforth let us write $sqrt{r_1 + sqrt{r_2 + sqrt{cdots + sqrt{r_n}}}}$ as $[r_1, r_2, ldots r_n]$ for short, in the manner of continued fractions.



Obviously we have $$a_n= [1,2,ldots n] le underbrace{[n, n,ldots, n]}_n$$



but as the right-hand side grows without bound (It's $O(sqrt n)$) this is unhelpful. I thought maybe to do something like:



$$a_{n^2}le [1, underbrace{4, 4, 4}_3, underbrace{9, 9, 9, 9, 9}_5, ldots,
underbrace{n^2,n^2,ldots,n^2}_{2n-1}] $$



but I haven't been able to make it work.




I would like a proof that the limit $$lim_{ntoinfty} a_n$$
exists. The methods I know are not getting me anywhere.




I originally planned to ask "and what the limit is", but OEIS says "No closed-form expression is known for this constant".



The references it cites are unavailable to me at present.










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    This is probably a good place to start: "It was discovered by T. Vijayaraghavan that the infinite radical $sqrt{ a_1 + sqrt{ a_2 + sqrt{ a_3 + sqrt{a_4 + ldots }}}}$ where $a_n ge 0$, will converge to a limit if and only if the limit of $log a_n / 2^n$ exists" - Clawson, p. 229. (Taken from OEIS.)
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I would like to investigate the convergence of



$$sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{4+sqrtldots}}}}$$



Or more precisely, let $$begin{align}
a_1 & = sqrt 1\
a_2 & = sqrt{1+sqrt2}\
a_3 & = sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt 3}}\
a_4 & = sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt 4}}}\
&vdots
end{align}$$



Easy computer calculations suggest that this sequence converges rapidly to the value 1.75793275661800453265, so I handed this number to the all-seeing Google, which produced:




  • OEIS A072449

  • "Nested Radical Constant" from MathWorld


Henceforth let us write $sqrt{r_1 + sqrt{r_2 + sqrt{cdots + sqrt{r_n}}}}$ as $[r_1, r_2, ldots r_n]$ for short, in the manner of continued fractions.



Obviously we have $$a_n= [1,2,ldots n] le underbrace{[n, n,ldots, n]}_n$$



but as the right-hand side grows without bound (It's $O(sqrt n)$) this is unhelpful. I thought maybe to do something like:



$$a_{n^2}le [1, underbrace{4, 4, 4}_3, underbrace{9, 9, 9, 9, 9}_5, ldots,
underbrace{n^2,n^2,ldots,n^2}_{2n-1}] $$



but I haven't been able to make it work.




I would like a proof that the limit $$lim_{ntoinfty} a_n$$
exists. The methods I know are not getting me anywhere.




I originally planned to ask "and what the limit is", but OEIS says "No closed-form expression is known for this constant".



The references it cites are unavailable to me at present.










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    This is probably a good place to start: "It was discovered by T. Vijayaraghavan that the infinite radical $sqrt{ a_1 + sqrt{ a_2 + sqrt{ a_3 + sqrt{a_4 + ldots }}}}$ where $a_n ge 0$, will converge to a limit if and only if the limit of $log a_n / 2^n$ exists" - Clawson, p. 229. (Taken from OEIS.)
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I would like to investigate the convergence of



$$sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{4+sqrtldots}}}}$$



Or more precisely, let $$begin{align}
a_1 & = sqrt 1\
a_2 & = sqrt{1+sqrt2}\
a_3 & = sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt 3}}\
a_4 & = sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt 4}}}\
&vdots
end{align}$$



Easy computer calculations suggest that this sequence converges rapidly to the value 1.75793275661800453265, so I handed this number to the all-seeing Google, which produced:




  • OEIS A072449

  • "Nested Radical Constant" from MathWorld


Henceforth let us write $sqrt{r_1 + sqrt{r_2 + sqrt{cdots + sqrt{r_n}}}}$ as $[r_1, r_2, ldots r_n]$ for short, in the manner of continued fractions.



Obviously we have $$a_n= [1,2,ldots n] le underbrace{[n, n,ldots, n]}_n$$



but as the right-hand side grows without bound (It's $O(sqrt n)$) this is unhelpful. I thought maybe to do something like:



$$a_{n^2}le [1, underbrace{4, 4, 4}_3, underbrace{9, 9, 9, 9, 9}_5, ldots,
underbrace{n^2,n^2,ldots,n^2}_{2n-1}] $$



but I haven't been able to make it work.




I would like a proof that the limit $$lim_{ntoinfty} a_n$$
exists. The methods I know are not getting me anywhere.




I originally planned to ask "and what the limit is", but OEIS says "No closed-form expression is known for this constant".



The references it cites are unavailable to me at present.










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I would like to investigate the convergence of



$$sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{4+sqrtldots}}}}$$



Or more precisely, let $$begin{align}
a_1 & = sqrt 1\
a_2 & = sqrt{1+sqrt2}\
a_3 & = sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt 3}}\
a_4 & = sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt 4}}}\
&vdots
end{align}$$



Easy computer calculations suggest that this sequence converges rapidly to the value 1.75793275661800453265, so I handed this number to the all-seeing Google, which produced:




  • OEIS A072449

  • "Nested Radical Constant" from MathWorld


Henceforth let us write $sqrt{r_1 + sqrt{r_2 + sqrt{cdots + sqrt{r_n}}}}$ as $[r_1, r_2, ldots r_n]$ for short, in the manner of continued fractions.



Obviously we have $$a_n= [1,2,ldots n] le underbrace{[n, n,ldots, n]}_n$$



but as the right-hand side grows without bound (It's $O(sqrt n)$) this is unhelpful. I thought maybe to do something like:



$$a_{n^2}le [1, underbrace{4, 4, 4}_3, underbrace{9, 9, 9, 9, 9}_5, ldots,
underbrace{n^2,n^2,ldots,n^2}_{2n-1}] $$



but I haven't been able to make it work.




I would like a proof that the limit $$lim_{ntoinfty} a_n$$
exists. The methods I know are not getting me anywhere.




I originally planned to ask "and what the limit is", but OEIS says "No closed-form expression is known for this constant".



The references it cites are unavailable to me at present.







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    This is probably a good place to start: "It was discovered by T. Vijayaraghavan that the infinite radical $sqrt{ a_1 + sqrt{ a_2 + sqrt{ a_3 + sqrt{a_4 + ldots }}}}$ where $a_n ge 0$, will converge to a limit if and only if the limit of $log a_n / 2^n$ exists" - Clawson, p. 229. (Taken from OEIS.)
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    This is probably a good place to start: "It was discovered by T. Vijayaraghavan that the infinite radical $sqrt{ a_1 + sqrt{ a_2 + sqrt{ a_3 + sqrt{a_4 + ldots }}}}$ where $a_n ge 0$, will converge to a limit if and only if the limit of $log a_n / 2^n$ exists" - Clawson, p. 229. (Taken from OEIS.)
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This is probably a good place to start: "It was discovered by T. Vijayaraghavan that the infinite radical $sqrt{ a_1 + sqrt{ a_2 + sqrt{ a_3 + sqrt{a_4 + ldots }}}}$ where $a_n ge 0$, will converge to a limit if and only if the limit of $log a_n / 2^n$ exists" - Clawson, p. 229. (Taken from OEIS.)
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This is probably a good place to start: "It was discovered by T. Vijayaraghavan that the infinite radical $sqrt{ a_1 + sqrt{ a_2 + sqrt{ a_3 + sqrt{a_4 + ldots }}}}$ where $a_n ge 0$, will converge to a limit if and only if the limit of $log a_n / 2^n$ exists" - Clawson, p. 229. (Taken from OEIS.)
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For any $nge4$, we have $sqrt{2n} le n-1$. Therefore
begin{align*}
a_n
&le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{(n-1) + sqrt{2n}}}}}}\
&le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{2(n-1)}}}}}\
&leldots\
&le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{2(4)}}}}.
end{align*}
Hence ${a_n}$ is a monotonic increasing sequence that is bounded above.






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The first number $1$ is a nuisance, so at first we disregard it.



We proceed by induction, and deal with finite nested radicals that start with $sqrt{k+sqrt{(k+1)+cdots}}$, where $kge 2$.



We will show that such a radical is $lt 2k$, by induction on depth. The result is certainly true for all nested radicals of depth $1$, since $sqrt{q}lt 2q$.



For the induction step, a nested radical of depth $n$ that starts with $k$ is $sqrt{k+R}$, where $R$ is a nested radical of depth $n-1$ that starts with $k+1$. By the induction assumption, we have $Rlt 2k+2$. But then $sqrt{k+R}lt sqrt{3k+2}lt 2k$ if $k ge 2$.



So (finite) nested radicals of any depth that start with $2$ are $lt 4$. The sequence of nested radicals is clearly increasing, so it converges. It follows that the nested radical of the post is $le sqrt{1+4}$.






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    An easy sloppy way to see it:
    You know that $sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=phi$. Now multiply by $2$ to get $2phi=2sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+4sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+sqrt{16+sqrt{256+sqrt{256^2+dots}}}}>sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{4+dots}}}}$. Of course this should be done more rigorous.






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      If $( a_k )_{kinmathbb{N}}$ is any sequences of positive numbers such that:



      $$0 le a_k le alpha lambda^{2^k}quadtext{ for some }quad alpha, lambda in mathbb{R}_{+}$$



      Using same convention $;[r_1,r_2ldots] = sqrt{r_1 + sqrt{r_2 + ldots}};$ as in the question,
      we have:



      $$begin{align}
      [a_n] & le sqrt{alpha lambda^{2^n}} = sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}} = [alpha] lambda^{2^{n-1}}\
      implies [a_{n-1},a_n ] &le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-1}}+sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}}}
      =sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}} = [alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-2}}\
      implies [a_{n-2},a_{n-1},a_n]&le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-2}} + sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}}} = [alpha,alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-3}}\
      &;vdots\
      implies [a_1,ldots,a_n] & le underbrace{ [ alpha,ldots,alpha ] }_{ntext{ terms}} lambda\
      implies [a_1, ldots,a_n] & le [ alpha, alpha, ldots ]lambda = frac{1 + sqrt{1+4alpha}}{2}lambda
      end{align}$$



      Since $n le sqrt{2}^{2^n-2}$, we can take $alpha = frac12$ and $lambda = sqrt{2}$ to get:



      $$[1,2,ldots,n] le underbrace{ [ frac12,ldots,frac12 ]}_{ntext{ terms}} lambda le frac{1+sqrt{3}}{sqrt{2}} sim 1.931851 $$



      To get a better bound, observe for any $m, k in mathbb{Z}_{+}$, we have:



      $$ m + k - 1 le frac{m^2}{m+1}left(sqrt{frac{m+1}{m}}right)^{2^k}$$



      Using the same approach as above, we get:
      $$[m,m+1,m+2,ldots] le frac{sqrt{m+1}+sqrt{4m^2+m+1}}{2sqrt{m}}$$



      Take $m = 3$, we already get a bound accurate up to $O(10^{-2})$.



      $$[3,4,ldots] le frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}
      implies [1,2,3,ldots] le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}}} sim 1.760214368
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        Take a positive sequence ${a_n}$ and a constant $c>0$ such that $sqrt{a_{n+1}}<ca_n$.



        Set $b_n=sqrt{a_1+sqrt{a_2+cdots sqrt{a_n}}}$. By induction, $$log_{c+1} left(frac{b_n}{sqrt{a_1}}right)<sum_{i=1}^{n-1}2^{-i}<1$$
        So $b_n<(c+1)sqrt{a_1}$ and $b_n$ is monotonic increasing; by the Monotone Convergence Theorem, $lim_{ntoinfty}b_n$ exists. Taking $a_n=n$ and $c>sqrt{2}$ answers this question.






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          By linear approximations.



          Since the sequence is increasing, it converges iff it doesn't go to infinity. Therefore we need only to construct an upper bound.



          Notice that all tangents to $sqrt{x}$ are always above $sqrt{x}$. The slope of each tangent is $frac12frac1{sqrt x}$; but we can construct a simpler bound by noticing that the line through $(x,sqrt x)$ with slope $frac 1 2$ is above $sqrt{u}$ for all $u > x$ if $x geq 1$.



          So $$sqrt{1 + sqrt{2 + sqrt{3 + dotsc}}} leq 1 + frac12(sqrt 2 + frac12(sqrt{3} + frac12(dotsc))) = sum_{i=1}^infty frac{sqrt i}{2^{i-1}}$$ and it's easier to see that that converges.






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          For any $nge4$, we have $sqrt{2n} le n-1$. Therefore
          begin{align*}
          a_n
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{(n-1) + sqrt{2n}}}}}}\
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{2(n-1)}}}}}\
          &leldots\
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{2(4)}}}}.
          end{align*}
          Hence ${a_n}$ is a monotonic increasing sequence that is bounded above.






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          For any $nge4$, we have $sqrt{2n} le n-1$. Therefore
          begin{align*}
          a_n
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{(n-1) + sqrt{2n}}}}}}\
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{2(n-1)}}}}}\
          &leldots\
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{2(4)}}}}.
          end{align*}
          Hence ${a_n}$ is a monotonic increasing sequence that is bounded above.






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          For any $nge4$, we have $sqrt{2n} le n-1$. Therefore
          begin{align*}
          a_n
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{(n-1) + sqrt{2n}}}}}}\
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{2(n-1)}}}}}\
          &leldots\
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{2(4)}}}}.
          end{align*}
          Hence ${a_n}$ is a monotonic increasing sequence that is bounded above.






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          For any $nge4$, we have $sqrt{2n} le n-1$. Therefore
          begin{align*}
          a_n
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{(n-1) + sqrt{2n}}}}}}\
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{ldots+sqrt{(n-2)+sqrt{2(n-1)}}}}}\
          &leldots\
          &le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{2(4)}}}}.
          end{align*}
          Hence ${a_n}$ is a monotonic increasing sequence that is bounded above.







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            The first part following from $n^2 -4n +1 >0$ for $nge 4$.
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            The first part following from $n^2 -4n +1 >0$ for $nge 4$.
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            Very elegant estimate! +1
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          $begingroup$
          The first part following from $n^2 -4n +1 >0$ for $nge 4$.
          $endgroup$
          – Tom Collinge
          Jun 6 '14 at 14:17




          $begingroup$
          The first part following from $n^2 -4n +1 >0$ for $nge 4$.
          $endgroup$
          – Tom Collinge
          Jun 6 '14 at 14:17












          $begingroup$
          Very elegant estimate! +1
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          Nov 15 '15 at 17:06




          $begingroup$
          Very elegant estimate! +1
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          The first number $1$ is a nuisance, so at first we disregard it.



          We proceed by induction, and deal with finite nested radicals that start with $sqrt{k+sqrt{(k+1)+cdots}}$, where $kge 2$.



          We will show that such a radical is $lt 2k$, by induction on depth. The result is certainly true for all nested radicals of depth $1$, since $sqrt{q}lt 2q$.



          For the induction step, a nested radical of depth $n$ that starts with $k$ is $sqrt{k+R}$, where $R$ is a nested radical of depth $n-1$ that starts with $k+1$. By the induction assumption, we have $Rlt 2k+2$. But then $sqrt{k+R}lt sqrt{3k+2}lt 2k$ if $k ge 2$.



          So (finite) nested radicals of any depth that start with $2$ are $lt 4$. The sequence of nested radicals is clearly increasing, so it converges. It follows that the nested radical of the post is $le sqrt{1+4}$.






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            The first number $1$ is a nuisance, so at first we disregard it.



            We proceed by induction, and deal with finite nested radicals that start with $sqrt{k+sqrt{(k+1)+cdots}}$, where $kge 2$.



            We will show that such a radical is $lt 2k$, by induction on depth. The result is certainly true for all nested radicals of depth $1$, since $sqrt{q}lt 2q$.



            For the induction step, a nested radical of depth $n$ that starts with $k$ is $sqrt{k+R}$, where $R$ is a nested radical of depth $n-1$ that starts with $k+1$. By the induction assumption, we have $Rlt 2k+2$. But then $sqrt{k+R}lt sqrt{3k+2}lt 2k$ if $k ge 2$.



            So (finite) nested radicals of any depth that start with $2$ are $lt 4$. The sequence of nested radicals is clearly increasing, so it converges. It follows that the nested radical of the post is $le sqrt{1+4}$.






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              $begingroup$

              The first number $1$ is a nuisance, so at first we disregard it.



              We proceed by induction, and deal with finite nested radicals that start with $sqrt{k+sqrt{(k+1)+cdots}}$, where $kge 2$.



              We will show that such a radical is $lt 2k$, by induction on depth. The result is certainly true for all nested radicals of depth $1$, since $sqrt{q}lt 2q$.



              For the induction step, a nested radical of depth $n$ that starts with $k$ is $sqrt{k+R}$, where $R$ is a nested radical of depth $n-1$ that starts with $k+1$. By the induction assumption, we have $Rlt 2k+2$. But then $sqrt{k+R}lt sqrt{3k+2}lt 2k$ if $k ge 2$.



              So (finite) nested radicals of any depth that start with $2$ are $lt 4$. The sequence of nested radicals is clearly increasing, so it converges. It follows that the nested radical of the post is $le sqrt{1+4}$.






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              The first number $1$ is a nuisance, so at first we disregard it.



              We proceed by induction, and deal with finite nested radicals that start with $sqrt{k+sqrt{(k+1)+cdots}}$, where $kge 2$.



              We will show that such a radical is $lt 2k$, by induction on depth. The result is certainly true for all nested radicals of depth $1$, since $sqrt{q}lt 2q$.



              For the induction step, a nested radical of depth $n$ that starts with $k$ is $sqrt{k+R}$, where $R$ is a nested radical of depth $n-1$ that starts with $k+1$. By the induction assumption, we have $Rlt 2k+2$. But then $sqrt{k+R}lt sqrt{3k+2}lt 2k$ if $k ge 2$.



              So (finite) nested radicals of any depth that start with $2$ are $lt 4$. The sequence of nested radicals is clearly increasing, so it converges. It follows that the nested radical of the post is $le sqrt{1+4}$.







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                  An easy sloppy way to see it:
                  You know that $sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=phi$. Now multiply by $2$ to get $2phi=2sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+4sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+sqrt{16+sqrt{256+sqrt{256^2+dots}}}}>sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{4+dots}}}}$. Of course this should be done more rigorous.






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                    An easy sloppy way to see it:
                    You know that $sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=phi$. Now multiply by $2$ to get $2phi=2sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+4sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+sqrt{16+sqrt{256+sqrt{256^2+dots}}}}>sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{4+dots}}}}$. Of course this should be done more rigorous.






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                      An easy sloppy way to see it:
                      You know that $sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=phi$. Now multiply by $2$ to get $2phi=2sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+4sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+sqrt{16+sqrt{256+sqrt{256^2+dots}}}}>sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{4+dots}}}}$. Of course this should be done more rigorous.






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                      An easy sloppy way to see it:
                      You know that $sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=phi$. Now multiply by $2$ to get $2phi=2sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+4sqrt{1+sqrt{1+sqrt{1+dots}}}}=sqrt{4+sqrt{16+sqrt{256+sqrt{256^2+dots}}}}>sqrt{1+sqrt{2+sqrt{3+sqrt{4+dots}}}}$. Of course this should be done more rigorous.







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                          If $( a_k )_{kinmathbb{N}}$ is any sequences of positive numbers such that:



                          $$0 le a_k le alpha lambda^{2^k}quadtext{ for some }quad alpha, lambda in mathbb{R}_{+}$$



                          Using same convention $;[r_1,r_2ldots] = sqrt{r_1 + sqrt{r_2 + ldots}};$ as in the question,
                          we have:



                          $$begin{align}
                          [a_n] & le sqrt{alpha lambda^{2^n}} = sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}} = [alpha] lambda^{2^{n-1}}\
                          implies [a_{n-1},a_n ] &le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-1}}+sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}}}
                          =sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}} = [alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-2}}\
                          implies [a_{n-2},a_{n-1},a_n]&le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-2}} + sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}}} = [alpha,alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-3}}\
                          &;vdots\
                          implies [a_1,ldots,a_n] & le underbrace{ [ alpha,ldots,alpha ] }_{ntext{ terms}} lambda\
                          implies [a_1, ldots,a_n] & le [ alpha, alpha, ldots ]lambda = frac{1 + sqrt{1+4alpha}}{2}lambda
                          end{align}$$



                          Since $n le sqrt{2}^{2^n-2}$, we can take $alpha = frac12$ and $lambda = sqrt{2}$ to get:



                          $$[1,2,ldots,n] le underbrace{ [ frac12,ldots,frac12 ]}_{ntext{ terms}} lambda le frac{1+sqrt{3}}{sqrt{2}} sim 1.931851 $$



                          To get a better bound, observe for any $m, k in mathbb{Z}_{+}$, we have:



                          $$ m + k - 1 le frac{m^2}{m+1}left(sqrt{frac{m+1}{m}}right)^{2^k}$$



                          Using the same approach as above, we get:
                          $$[m,m+1,m+2,ldots] le frac{sqrt{m+1}+sqrt{4m^2+m+1}}{2sqrt{m}}$$



                          Take $m = 3$, we already get a bound accurate up to $O(10^{-2})$.



                          $$[3,4,ldots] le frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}
                          implies [1,2,3,ldots] le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}}} sim 1.760214368
                          $$






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                            $begingroup$

                            If $( a_k )_{kinmathbb{N}}$ is any sequences of positive numbers such that:



                            $$0 le a_k le alpha lambda^{2^k}quadtext{ for some }quad alpha, lambda in mathbb{R}_{+}$$



                            Using same convention $;[r_1,r_2ldots] = sqrt{r_1 + sqrt{r_2 + ldots}};$ as in the question,
                            we have:



                            $$begin{align}
                            [a_n] & le sqrt{alpha lambda^{2^n}} = sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}} = [alpha] lambda^{2^{n-1}}\
                            implies [a_{n-1},a_n ] &le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-1}}+sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}}}
                            =sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}} = [alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-2}}\
                            implies [a_{n-2},a_{n-1},a_n]&le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-2}} + sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}}} = [alpha,alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-3}}\
                            &;vdots\
                            implies [a_1,ldots,a_n] & le underbrace{ [ alpha,ldots,alpha ] }_{ntext{ terms}} lambda\
                            implies [a_1, ldots,a_n] & le [ alpha, alpha, ldots ]lambda = frac{1 + sqrt{1+4alpha}}{2}lambda
                            end{align}$$



                            Since $n le sqrt{2}^{2^n-2}$, we can take $alpha = frac12$ and $lambda = sqrt{2}$ to get:



                            $$[1,2,ldots,n] le underbrace{ [ frac12,ldots,frac12 ]}_{ntext{ terms}} lambda le frac{1+sqrt{3}}{sqrt{2}} sim 1.931851 $$



                            To get a better bound, observe for any $m, k in mathbb{Z}_{+}$, we have:



                            $$ m + k - 1 le frac{m^2}{m+1}left(sqrt{frac{m+1}{m}}right)^{2^k}$$



                            Using the same approach as above, we get:
                            $$[m,m+1,m+2,ldots] le frac{sqrt{m+1}+sqrt{4m^2+m+1}}{2sqrt{m}}$$



                            Take $m = 3$, we already get a bound accurate up to $O(10^{-2})$.



                            $$[3,4,ldots] le frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}
                            implies [1,2,3,ldots] le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}}} sim 1.760214368
                            $$






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                              If $( a_k )_{kinmathbb{N}}$ is any sequences of positive numbers such that:



                              $$0 le a_k le alpha lambda^{2^k}quadtext{ for some }quad alpha, lambda in mathbb{R}_{+}$$



                              Using same convention $;[r_1,r_2ldots] = sqrt{r_1 + sqrt{r_2 + ldots}};$ as in the question,
                              we have:



                              $$begin{align}
                              [a_n] & le sqrt{alpha lambda^{2^n}} = sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}} = [alpha] lambda^{2^{n-1}}\
                              implies [a_{n-1},a_n ] &le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-1}}+sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}}}
                              =sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}} = [alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-2}}\
                              implies [a_{n-2},a_{n-1},a_n]&le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-2}} + sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}}} = [alpha,alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-3}}\
                              &;vdots\
                              implies [a_1,ldots,a_n] & le underbrace{ [ alpha,ldots,alpha ] }_{ntext{ terms}} lambda\
                              implies [a_1, ldots,a_n] & le [ alpha, alpha, ldots ]lambda = frac{1 + sqrt{1+4alpha}}{2}lambda
                              end{align}$$



                              Since $n le sqrt{2}^{2^n-2}$, we can take $alpha = frac12$ and $lambda = sqrt{2}$ to get:



                              $$[1,2,ldots,n] le underbrace{ [ frac12,ldots,frac12 ]}_{ntext{ terms}} lambda le frac{1+sqrt{3}}{sqrt{2}} sim 1.931851 $$



                              To get a better bound, observe for any $m, k in mathbb{Z}_{+}$, we have:



                              $$ m + k - 1 le frac{m^2}{m+1}left(sqrt{frac{m+1}{m}}right)^{2^k}$$



                              Using the same approach as above, we get:
                              $$[m,m+1,m+2,ldots] le frac{sqrt{m+1}+sqrt{4m^2+m+1}}{2sqrt{m}}$$



                              Take $m = 3$, we already get a bound accurate up to $O(10^{-2})$.



                              $$[3,4,ldots] le frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}
                              implies [1,2,3,ldots] le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}}} sim 1.760214368
                              $$






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                              If $( a_k )_{kinmathbb{N}}$ is any sequences of positive numbers such that:



                              $$0 le a_k le alpha lambda^{2^k}quadtext{ for some }quad alpha, lambda in mathbb{R}_{+}$$



                              Using same convention $;[r_1,r_2ldots] = sqrt{r_1 + sqrt{r_2 + ldots}};$ as in the question,
                              we have:



                              $$begin{align}
                              [a_n] & le sqrt{alpha lambda^{2^n}} = sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}} = [alpha] lambda^{2^{n-1}}\
                              implies [a_{n-1},a_n ] &le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-1}}+sqrt{alpha}lambda^{2^{n-1}}}
                              =sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}} = [alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-2}}\
                              implies [a_{n-2},a_{n-1},a_n]&le sqrt{alphalambda^{2^{n-2}} + sqrt{alpha+sqrt{alpha}}lambda^{2^{n-2}}} = [alpha,alpha,alpha]lambda^{2^{n-3}}\
                              &;vdots\
                              implies [a_1,ldots,a_n] & le underbrace{ [ alpha,ldots,alpha ] }_{ntext{ terms}} lambda\
                              implies [a_1, ldots,a_n] & le [ alpha, alpha, ldots ]lambda = frac{1 + sqrt{1+4alpha}}{2}lambda
                              end{align}$$



                              Since $n le sqrt{2}^{2^n-2}$, we can take $alpha = frac12$ and $lambda = sqrt{2}$ to get:



                              $$[1,2,ldots,n] le underbrace{ [ frac12,ldots,frac12 ]}_{ntext{ terms}} lambda le frac{1+sqrt{3}}{sqrt{2}} sim 1.931851 $$



                              To get a better bound, observe for any $m, k in mathbb{Z}_{+}$, we have:



                              $$ m + k - 1 le frac{m^2}{m+1}left(sqrt{frac{m+1}{m}}right)^{2^k}$$



                              Using the same approach as above, we get:
                              $$[m,m+1,m+2,ldots] le frac{sqrt{m+1}+sqrt{4m^2+m+1}}{2sqrt{m}}$$



                              Take $m = 3$, we already get a bound accurate up to $O(10^{-2})$.



                              $$[3,4,ldots] le frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}
                              implies [1,2,3,ldots] le sqrt{1+sqrt{2+frac{1+sqrt{10}}{sqrt{3}}}} sim 1.760214368
                              $$







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                                  Take a positive sequence ${a_n}$ and a constant $c>0$ such that $sqrt{a_{n+1}}<ca_n$.



                                  Set $b_n=sqrt{a_1+sqrt{a_2+cdots sqrt{a_n}}}$. By induction, $$log_{c+1} left(frac{b_n}{sqrt{a_1}}right)<sum_{i=1}^{n-1}2^{-i}<1$$
                                  So $b_n<(c+1)sqrt{a_1}$ and $b_n$ is monotonic increasing; by the Monotone Convergence Theorem, $lim_{ntoinfty}b_n$ exists. Taking $a_n=n$ and $c>sqrt{2}$ answers this question.






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                                    Take a positive sequence ${a_n}$ and a constant $c>0$ such that $sqrt{a_{n+1}}<ca_n$.



                                    Set $b_n=sqrt{a_1+sqrt{a_2+cdots sqrt{a_n}}}$. By induction, $$log_{c+1} left(frac{b_n}{sqrt{a_1}}right)<sum_{i=1}^{n-1}2^{-i}<1$$
                                    So $b_n<(c+1)sqrt{a_1}$ and $b_n$ is monotonic increasing; by the Monotone Convergence Theorem, $lim_{ntoinfty}b_n$ exists. Taking $a_n=n$ and $c>sqrt{2}$ answers this question.






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                                      Take a positive sequence ${a_n}$ and a constant $c>0$ such that $sqrt{a_{n+1}}<ca_n$.



                                      Set $b_n=sqrt{a_1+sqrt{a_2+cdots sqrt{a_n}}}$. By induction, $$log_{c+1} left(frac{b_n}{sqrt{a_1}}right)<sum_{i=1}^{n-1}2^{-i}<1$$
                                      So $b_n<(c+1)sqrt{a_1}$ and $b_n$ is monotonic increasing; by the Monotone Convergence Theorem, $lim_{ntoinfty}b_n$ exists. Taking $a_n=n$ and $c>sqrt{2}$ answers this question.






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                                      Take a positive sequence ${a_n}$ and a constant $c>0$ such that $sqrt{a_{n+1}}<ca_n$.



                                      Set $b_n=sqrt{a_1+sqrt{a_2+cdots sqrt{a_n}}}$. By induction, $$log_{c+1} left(frac{b_n}{sqrt{a_1}}right)<sum_{i=1}^{n-1}2^{-i}<1$$
                                      So $b_n<(c+1)sqrt{a_1}$ and $b_n$ is monotonic increasing; by the Monotone Convergence Theorem, $lim_{ntoinfty}b_n$ exists. Taking $a_n=n$ and $c>sqrt{2}$ answers this question.







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                                      answered Jul 6 '13 at 19:13









                                      pre-kidneypre-kidney

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                                          By linear approximations.



                                          Since the sequence is increasing, it converges iff it doesn't go to infinity. Therefore we need only to construct an upper bound.



                                          Notice that all tangents to $sqrt{x}$ are always above $sqrt{x}$. The slope of each tangent is $frac12frac1{sqrt x}$; but we can construct a simpler bound by noticing that the line through $(x,sqrt x)$ with slope $frac 1 2$ is above $sqrt{u}$ for all $u > x$ if $x geq 1$.



                                          So $$sqrt{1 + sqrt{2 + sqrt{3 + dotsc}}} leq 1 + frac12(sqrt 2 + frac12(sqrt{3} + frac12(dotsc))) = sum_{i=1}^infty frac{sqrt i}{2^{i-1}}$$ and it's easier to see that that converges.






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                                            The last term is just $2 text{Li}_{-frac{1}{2}}left(frac{1}{2}right)approx 2.69451$
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                                          $begingroup$

                                          By linear approximations.



                                          Since the sequence is increasing, it converges iff it doesn't go to infinity. Therefore we need only to construct an upper bound.



                                          Notice that all tangents to $sqrt{x}$ are always above $sqrt{x}$. The slope of each tangent is $frac12frac1{sqrt x}$; but we can construct a simpler bound by noticing that the line through $(x,sqrt x)$ with slope $frac 1 2$ is above $sqrt{u}$ for all $u > x$ if $x geq 1$.



                                          So $$sqrt{1 + sqrt{2 + sqrt{3 + dotsc}}} leq 1 + frac12(sqrt 2 + frac12(sqrt{3} + frac12(dotsc))) = sum_{i=1}^infty frac{sqrt i}{2^{i-1}}$$ and it's easier to see that that converges.






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                                            The last term is just $2 text{Li}_{-frac{1}{2}}left(frac{1}{2}right)approx 2.69451$
                                            $endgroup$
                                            – Claude Leibovici
                                            Oct 17 '17 at 6:44














                                          3












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                                          3





                                          $begingroup$

                                          By linear approximations.



                                          Since the sequence is increasing, it converges iff it doesn't go to infinity. Therefore we need only to construct an upper bound.



                                          Notice that all tangents to $sqrt{x}$ are always above $sqrt{x}$. The slope of each tangent is $frac12frac1{sqrt x}$; but we can construct a simpler bound by noticing that the line through $(x,sqrt x)$ with slope $frac 1 2$ is above $sqrt{u}$ for all $u > x$ if $x geq 1$.



                                          So $$sqrt{1 + sqrt{2 + sqrt{3 + dotsc}}} leq 1 + frac12(sqrt 2 + frac12(sqrt{3} + frac12(dotsc))) = sum_{i=1}^infty frac{sqrt i}{2^{i-1}}$$ and it's easier to see that that converges.






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                                          By linear approximations.



                                          Since the sequence is increasing, it converges iff it doesn't go to infinity. Therefore we need only to construct an upper bound.



                                          Notice that all tangents to $sqrt{x}$ are always above $sqrt{x}$. The slope of each tangent is $frac12frac1{sqrt x}$; but we can construct a simpler bound by noticing that the line through $(x,sqrt x)$ with slope $frac 1 2$ is above $sqrt{u}$ for all $u > x$ if $x geq 1$.



                                          So $$sqrt{1 + sqrt{2 + sqrt{3 + dotsc}}} leq 1 + frac12(sqrt 2 + frac12(sqrt{3} + frac12(dotsc))) = sum_{i=1}^infty frac{sqrt i}{2^{i-1}}$$ and it's easier to see that that converges.







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                                          answered Jun 24 '15 at 15:08









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                                          • $begingroup$
                                            The last term is just $2 text{Li}_{-frac{1}{2}}left(frac{1}{2}right)approx 2.69451$
                                            $endgroup$
                                            – Claude Leibovici
                                            Oct 17 '17 at 6:44


















                                          • $begingroup$
                                            The last term is just $2 text{Li}_{-frac{1}{2}}left(frac{1}{2}right)approx 2.69451$
                                            $endgroup$
                                            – Claude Leibovici
                                            Oct 17 '17 at 6:44
















                                          $begingroup$
                                          The last term is just $2 text{Li}_{-frac{1}{2}}left(frac{1}{2}right)approx 2.69451$
                                          $endgroup$
                                          – Claude Leibovici
                                          Oct 17 '17 at 6:44




                                          $begingroup$
                                          The last term is just $2 text{Li}_{-frac{1}{2}}left(frac{1}{2}right)approx 2.69451$
                                          $endgroup$
                                          – Claude Leibovici
                                          Oct 17 '17 at 6:44


















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