Show that $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ are pairwise independent. Are they independent?












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Let $X$ and $Y$ be independent random variables, each taking the values $-1$ or $1$ with probability $1/2$, and let $Z = XY$. Show that $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ are pairwise independent. Are they independent?



MY ATTEMPT



To begin with, let us determine the distribution of $Z$: if $X = -1$ and $Y = -1$ or $X = 1$ and $Y = 1$, then $Z = 1$. If $X = -1$ and $Y = 1$ or $X = 1$ and $Y = -1$, then $Z = -1$. Since we considered all possible cases, here is the distribution of $Z$:
begin{align*}
p_{Z}(1) = textbf{P}(Z = 1) = textbf{P}(X = -1)textbf{P}(Y = -1) + textbf{P}(X = 1)textbf{P}(Y = 1) = frac{1}{2}
end{align*}



On the other hand, we have
begin{align*}
p_{Z}(-1) = textbf{P}(Z = -1) = textbf{P}(X = -1)textbf{P}(Y = 1) + textbf{P}(X = 1)textbf{P}(Y = -1) = frac{1}{2}
end{align*}



Therefore $Zsim Bernoulli(1/2)$.



As to the second part of the question, we have
begin{align*}
p_{X,Z}(1,1) & = textbf{P}(Z = 1 mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = textbf{P}(XY = 1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1)\
& = textbf{P}(Y = 1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = textbf{P}(Y = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = frac{1}{4} = p_{X}(1)p_{Z}(1)
end{align*}



Analogous reasoning applies to the remaining cases. However, the random variables $X$, $Y$ and $Z$ are not independent, because



begin{align*}
p_{X,Y,Z}(1,-1,1) = textbf{P}(Z = 1mid{X = 1}cap{Y = -1})textbf{P}(Y = -1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = 0
end{align*}



My question is: are my results correct? Can it be improved? Any contribution is appreciated. Thanks in advance.










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    Looks correct okay to me.
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    Jan 23 at 16:02
















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$begingroup$


Let $X$ and $Y$ be independent random variables, each taking the values $-1$ or $1$ with probability $1/2$, and let $Z = XY$. Show that $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ are pairwise independent. Are they independent?



MY ATTEMPT



To begin with, let us determine the distribution of $Z$: if $X = -1$ and $Y = -1$ or $X = 1$ and $Y = 1$, then $Z = 1$. If $X = -1$ and $Y = 1$ or $X = 1$ and $Y = -1$, then $Z = -1$. Since we considered all possible cases, here is the distribution of $Z$:
begin{align*}
p_{Z}(1) = textbf{P}(Z = 1) = textbf{P}(X = -1)textbf{P}(Y = -1) + textbf{P}(X = 1)textbf{P}(Y = 1) = frac{1}{2}
end{align*}



On the other hand, we have
begin{align*}
p_{Z}(-1) = textbf{P}(Z = -1) = textbf{P}(X = -1)textbf{P}(Y = 1) + textbf{P}(X = 1)textbf{P}(Y = -1) = frac{1}{2}
end{align*}



Therefore $Zsim Bernoulli(1/2)$.



As to the second part of the question, we have
begin{align*}
p_{X,Z}(1,1) & = textbf{P}(Z = 1 mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = textbf{P}(XY = 1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1)\
& = textbf{P}(Y = 1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = textbf{P}(Y = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = frac{1}{4} = p_{X}(1)p_{Z}(1)
end{align*}



Analogous reasoning applies to the remaining cases. However, the random variables $X$, $Y$ and $Z$ are not independent, because



begin{align*}
p_{X,Y,Z}(1,-1,1) = textbf{P}(Z = 1mid{X = 1}cap{Y = -1})textbf{P}(Y = -1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = 0
end{align*}



My question is: are my results correct? Can it be improved? Any contribution is appreciated. Thanks in advance.










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    $begingroup$
    Looks correct okay to me.
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 23 at 16:02














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$begingroup$


Let $X$ and $Y$ be independent random variables, each taking the values $-1$ or $1$ with probability $1/2$, and let $Z = XY$. Show that $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ are pairwise independent. Are they independent?



MY ATTEMPT



To begin with, let us determine the distribution of $Z$: if $X = -1$ and $Y = -1$ or $X = 1$ and $Y = 1$, then $Z = 1$. If $X = -1$ and $Y = 1$ or $X = 1$ and $Y = -1$, then $Z = -1$. Since we considered all possible cases, here is the distribution of $Z$:
begin{align*}
p_{Z}(1) = textbf{P}(Z = 1) = textbf{P}(X = -1)textbf{P}(Y = -1) + textbf{P}(X = 1)textbf{P}(Y = 1) = frac{1}{2}
end{align*}



On the other hand, we have
begin{align*}
p_{Z}(-1) = textbf{P}(Z = -1) = textbf{P}(X = -1)textbf{P}(Y = 1) + textbf{P}(X = 1)textbf{P}(Y = -1) = frac{1}{2}
end{align*}



Therefore $Zsim Bernoulli(1/2)$.



As to the second part of the question, we have
begin{align*}
p_{X,Z}(1,1) & = textbf{P}(Z = 1 mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = textbf{P}(XY = 1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1)\
& = textbf{P}(Y = 1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = textbf{P}(Y = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = frac{1}{4} = p_{X}(1)p_{Z}(1)
end{align*}



Analogous reasoning applies to the remaining cases. However, the random variables $X$, $Y$ and $Z$ are not independent, because



begin{align*}
p_{X,Y,Z}(1,-1,1) = textbf{P}(Z = 1mid{X = 1}cap{Y = -1})textbf{P}(Y = -1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = 0
end{align*}



My question is: are my results correct? Can it be improved? Any contribution is appreciated. Thanks in advance.










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Let $X$ and $Y$ be independent random variables, each taking the values $-1$ or $1$ with probability $1/2$, and let $Z = XY$. Show that $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ are pairwise independent. Are they independent?



MY ATTEMPT



To begin with, let us determine the distribution of $Z$: if $X = -1$ and $Y = -1$ or $X = 1$ and $Y = 1$, then $Z = 1$. If $X = -1$ and $Y = 1$ or $X = 1$ and $Y = -1$, then $Z = -1$. Since we considered all possible cases, here is the distribution of $Z$:
begin{align*}
p_{Z}(1) = textbf{P}(Z = 1) = textbf{P}(X = -1)textbf{P}(Y = -1) + textbf{P}(X = 1)textbf{P}(Y = 1) = frac{1}{2}
end{align*}



On the other hand, we have
begin{align*}
p_{Z}(-1) = textbf{P}(Z = -1) = textbf{P}(X = -1)textbf{P}(Y = 1) + textbf{P}(X = 1)textbf{P}(Y = -1) = frac{1}{2}
end{align*}



Therefore $Zsim Bernoulli(1/2)$.



As to the second part of the question, we have
begin{align*}
p_{X,Z}(1,1) & = textbf{P}(Z = 1 mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = textbf{P}(XY = 1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1)\
& = textbf{P}(Y = 1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = textbf{P}(Y = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = frac{1}{4} = p_{X}(1)p_{Z}(1)
end{align*}



Analogous reasoning applies to the remaining cases. However, the random variables $X$, $Y$ and $Z$ are not independent, because



begin{align*}
p_{X,Y,Z}(1,-1,1) = textbf{P}(Z = 1mid{X = 1}cap{Y = -1})textbf{P}(Y = -1mid X = 1)textbf{P}(X = 1) = 0
end{align*}



My question is: are my results correct? Can it be improved? Any contribution is appreciated. Thanks in advance.







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    Looks correct okay to me.
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    Looks correct okay to me.
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    Jan 23 at 16:02








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$begingroup$
Looks correct okay to me.
$endgroup$
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Jan 23 at 16:02




$begingroup$
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– drhab
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