Norm of a set of vectors with respect to a quadratic form
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I've got a problem that I'm struggling to put into a form that I can analyze.
Suppose I have a quadratic form $f(x,y)=ax^2+2bxy+cy^2 = mathbf{u}mathbf{A}mathbf{u}^T$ for $mathbf{u} = begin{bmatrix}x¥d{bmatrix}$, $mathbf{A} = begin{bmatrix}a & b cr b &cend{bmatrix}$
Now I have two series of coordinate pairs $mathbf{u}_k = begin{bmatrix}x_k&y_kend{bmatrix}$ and $mathbf{v}_k = begin{bmatrix}x_k&y_kend{bmatrix}$, and I want to compare the sets $U={mathbf{u}_k}$ and $V={mathbf{v}_k}$ by evaluating the metrics
$$g(U) = maxlimits_{lVert{A}rVert le 1} sumlimits_k f(x_k,y_k)$$
and comparing $g(U)$ and $g(V)$.
Is there an easy way to compute $g(U)$ from knowing the individual $(x_k,y_k)$ pairs? I can compute the following quantities easily:
$$begin{align}
S_{xx} &= sum x^2 cr
S_{xy} &= sum xy cr
S_{yy} &= sum y^2
end{align}$$
I just am not sure how to use those to compute the maximum over the constraint $lVert{A}rVert le 1$. (I have a very poor knowledge of matrix norm identities.)
(Important fact: I'm using Frobenius norms.)
Given the Frobenius norm definition, this means that I'm looking for the maximum value of $aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ subject to the constraint $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 le 1$.
Not sure where to go from here, though it seems like I'm really close.
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I've got a problem that I'm struggling to put into a form that I can analyze.
Suppose I have a quadratic form $f(x,y)=ax^2+2bxy+cy^2 = mathbf{u}mathbf{A}mathbf{u}^T$ for $mathbf{u} = begin{bmatrix}x¥d{bmatrix}$, $mathbf{A} = begin{bmatrix}a & b cr b &cend{bmatrix}$
Now I have two series of coordinate pairs $mathbf{u}_k = begin{bmatrix}x_k&y_kend{bmatrix}$ and $mathbf{v}_k = begin{bmatrix}x_k&y_kend{bmatrix}$, and I want to compare the sets $U={mathbf{u}_k}$ and $V={mathbf{v}_k}$ by evaluating the metrics
$$g(U) = maxlimits_{lVert{A}rVert le 1} sumlimits_k f(x_k,y_k)$$
and comparing $g(U)$ and $g(V)$.
Is there an easy way to compute $g(U)$ from knowing the individual $(x_k,y_k)$ pairs? I can compute the following quantities easily:
$$begin{align}
S_{xx} &= sum x^2 cr
S_{xy} &= sum xy cr
S_{yy} &= sum y^2
end{align}$$
I just am not sure how to use those to compute the maximum over the constraint $lVert{A}rVert le 1$. (I have a very poor knowledge of matrix norm identities.)
(Important fact: I'm using Frobenius norms.)
Given the Frobenius norm definition, this means that I'm looking for the maximum value of $aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ subject to the constraint $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 le 1$.
Not sure where to go from here, though it seems like I'm really close.
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I've got a problem that I'm struggling to put into a form that I can analyze.
Suppose I have a quadratic form $f(x,y)=ax^2+2bxy+cy^2 = mathbf{u}mathbf{A}mathbf{u}^T$ for $mathbf{u} = begin{bmatrix}x¥d{bmatrix}$, $mathbf{A} = begin{bmatrix}a & b cr b &cend{bmatrix}$
Now I have two series of coordinate pairs $mathbf{u}_k = begin{bmatrix}x_k&y_kend{bmatrix}$ and $mathbf{v}_k = begin{bmatrix}x_k&y_kend{bmatrix}$, and I want to compare the sets $U={mathbf{u}_k}$ and $V={mathbf{v}_k}$ by evaluating the metrics
$$g(U) = maxlimits_{lVert{A}rVert le 1} sumlimits_k f(x_k,y_k)$$
and comparing $g(U)$ and $g(V)$.
Is there an easy way to compute $g(U)$ from knowing the individual $(x_k,y_k)$ pairs? I can compute the following quantities easily:
$$begin{align}
S_{xx} &= sum x^2 cr
S_{xy} &= sum xy cr
S_{yy} &= sum y^2
end{align}$$
I just am not sure how to use those to compute the maximum over the constraint $lVert{A}rVert le 1$. (I have a very poor knowledge of matrix norm identities.)
(Important fact: I'm using Frobenius norms.)
Given the Frobenius norm definition, this means that I'm looking for the maximum value of $aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ subject to the constraint $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 le 1$.
Not sure where to go from here, though it seems like I'm really close.
matrices norm quadratic-forms
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I've got a problem that I'm struggling to put into a form that I can analyze.
Suppose I have a quadratic form $f(x,y)=ax^2+2bxy+cy^2 = mathbf{u}mathbf{A}mathbf{u}^T$ for $mathbf{u} = begin{bmatrix}x¥d{bmatrix}$, $mathbf{A} = begin{bmatrix}a & b cr b &cend{bmatrix}$
Now I have two series of coordinate pairs $mathbf{u}_k = begin{bmatrix}x_k&y_kend{bmatrix}$ and $mathbf{v}_k = begin{bmatrix}x_k&y_kend{bmatrix}$, and I want to compare the sets $U={mathbf{u}_k}$ and $V={mathbf{v}_k}$ by evaluating the metrics
$$g(U) = maxlimits_{lVert{A}rVert le 1} sumlimits_k f(x_k,y_k)$$
and comparing $g(U)$ and $g(V)$.
Is there an easy way to compute $g(U)$ from knowing the individual $(x_k,y_k)$ pairs? I can compute the following quantities easily:
$$begin{align}
S_{xx} &= sum x^2 cr
S_{xy} &= sum xy cr
S_{yy} &= sum y^2
end{align}$$
I just am not sure how to use those to compute the maximum over the constraint $lVert{A}rVert le 1$. (I have a very poor knowledge of matrix norm identities.)
(Important fact: I'm using Frobenius norms.)
Given the Frobenius norm definition, this means that I'm looking for the maximum value of $aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ subject to the constraint $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 le 1$.
Not sure where to go from here, though it seems like I'm really close.
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Using method of Lagrange multipliers you can find that
$$
underset{a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 le 1}{operatorname{max}} Big(aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}Big)=sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2},
$$
which is obtained when
$$
a=frac{S_{xx}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad b=frac{S_{xy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad c=frac{S_{yy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}
$$
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Beat me by 22 seconds with a fix. I'm not that familiar with Lagrange multipliers (heard of them, know what they are, don't know how to apply them), but will check out the Wikipedia page.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:06
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@JasonS, seconds doesn't matter. You've done it right and simple.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:07
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I think maybe I've missed a step; how do you apply Lagrange multipliers here?
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:14
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@JasonS, geometrically, $f(a,b,c) = aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ is a plane and has no local maximum. Therefore, the maximum value is obtained on the boarder, i.e. when $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 = 1$. Then we construct an auxiliary function $F(a,b,c,lambda)=aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}-lambda(a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2-1)$ and search for the points where $F'_a=F'_b=F'_c=F'_{lambda}=0$.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:29
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ah, ok, and it's brute force calculus + algebra after that.
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Hmmm. If I write $u=a, v=2b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
Did I get that right?
Take 2:
If I write $u=a, v=sqrt{2}b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+sqrt{2}vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},sqrt{2}S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+2S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
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No, because $|mathbf{r}|^2=a^2+color{red}{4}b^2+c^2$
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 21:21
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But $|mathbf{r}| = u^2+v^2+w^2$; I've gone through a change of variable.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:55
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Oh. You're right. Drat.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:57
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fixed it!!!!!!!
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Using method of Lagrange multipliers you can find that
$$
underset{a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 le 1}{operatorname{max}} Big(aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}Big)=sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2},
$$
which is obtained when
$$
a=frac{S_{xx}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad b=frac{S_{xy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad c=frac{S_{yy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}
$$
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Beat me by 22 seconds with a fix. I'm not that familiar with Lagrange multipliers (heard of them, know what they are, don't know how to apply them), but will check out the Wikipedia page.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:06
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@JasonS, seconds doesn't matter. You've done it right and simple.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:07
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I think maybe I've missed a step; how do you apply Lagrange multipliers here?
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:14
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@JasonS, geometrically, $f(a,b,c) = aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ is a plane and has no local maximum. Therefore, the maximum value is obtained on the boarder, i.e. when $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 = 1$. Then we construct an auxiliary function $F(a,b,c,lambda)=aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}-lambda(a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2-1)$ and search for the points where $F'_a=F'_b=F'_c=F'_{lambda}=0$.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:29
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ah, ok, and it's brute force calculus + algebra after that.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:40
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Using method of Lagrange multipliers you can find that
$$
underset{a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 le 1}{operatorname{max}} Big(aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}Big)=sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2},
$$
which is obtained when
$$
a=frac{S_{xx}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad b=frac{S_{xy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad c=frac{S_{yy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}
$$
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Beat me by 22 seconds with a fix. I'm not that familiar with Lagrange multipliers (heard of them, know what they are, don't know how to apply them), but will check out the Wikipedia page.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:06
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@JasonS, seconds doesn't matter. You've done it right and simple.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:07
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I think maybe I've missed a step; how do you apply Lagrange multipliers here?
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:14
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@JasonS, geometrically, $f(a,b,c) = aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ is a plane and has no local maximum. Therefore, the maximum value is obtained on the boarder, i.e. when $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 = 1$. Then we construct an auxiliary function $F(a,b,c,lambda)=aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}-lambda(a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2-1)$ and search for the points where $F'_a=F'_b=F'_c=F'_{lambda}=0$.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:29
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ah, ok, and it's brute force calculus + algebra after that.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:40
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show 1 more comment
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Using method of Lagrange multipliers you can find that
$$
underset{a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 le 1}{operatorname{max}} Big(aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}Big)=sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2},
$$
which is obtained when
$$
a=frac{S_{xx}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad b=frac{S_{xy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad c=frac{S_{yy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}
$$
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Using method of Lagrange multipliers you can find that
$$
underset{a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 le 1}{operatorname{max}} Big(aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}Big)=sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2},
$$
which is obtained when
$$
a=frac{S_{xx}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad b=frac{S_{xy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}, quad c=frac{S_{yy}}{sqrt{S_{xx}^2 + 2S_{xy}^2 + S_{yy}^2}}
$$
answered Jan 24 at 22:03
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Beat me by 22 seconds with a fix. I'm not that familiar with Lagrange multipliers (heard of them, know what they are, don't know how to apply them), but will check out the Wikipedia page.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:06
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@JasonS, seconds doesn't matter. You've done it right and simple.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:07
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I think maybe I've missed a step; how do you apply Lagrange multipliers here?
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:14
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@JasonS, geometrically, $f(a,b,c) = aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ is a plane and has no local maximum. Therefore, the maximum value is obtained on the boarder, i.e. when $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 = 1$. Then we construct an auxiliary function $F(a,b,c,lambda)=aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}-lambda(a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2-1)$ and search for the points where $F'_a=F'_b=F'_c=F'_{lambda}=0$.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:29
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ah, ok, and it's brute force calculus + algebra after that.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:40
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show 1 more comment
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Beat me by 22 seconds with a fix. I'm not that familiar with Lagrange multipliers (heard of them, know what they are, don't know how to apply them), but will check out the Wikipedia page.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:06
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@JasonS, seconds doesn't matter. You've done it right and simple.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:07
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I think maybe I've missed a step; how do you apply Lagrange multipliers here?
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:14
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@JasonS, geometrically, $f(a,b,c) = aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ is a plane and has no local maximum. Therefore, the maximum value is obtained on the boarder, i.e. when $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 = 1$. Then we construct an auxiliary function $F(a,b,c,lambda)=aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}-lambda(a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2-1)$ and search for the points where $F'_a=F'_b=F'_c=F'_{lambda}=0$.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:29
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ah, ok, and it's brute force calculus + algebra after that.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:40
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Beat me by 22 seconds with a fix. I'm not that familiar with Lagrange multipliers (heard of them, know what they are, don't know how to apply them), but will check out the Wikipedia page.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:06
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Beat me by 22 seconds with a fix. I'm not that familiar with Lagrange multipliers (heard of them, know what they are, don't know how to apply them), but will check out the Wikipedia page.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:06
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@JasonS, seconds doesn't matter. You've done it right and simple.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:07
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@JasonS, seconds doesn't matter. You've done it right and simple.
$endgroup$
– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:07
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I think maybe I've missed a step; how do you apply Lagrange multipliers here?
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:14
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I think maybe I've missed a step; how do you apply Lagrange multipliers here?
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:14
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@JasonS, geometrically, $f(a,b,c) = aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ is a plane and has no local maximum. Therefore, the maximum value is obtained on the boarder, i.e. when $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 = 1$. Then we construct an auxiliary function $F(a,b,c,lambda)=aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}-lambda(a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2-1)$ and search for the points where $F'_a=F'_b=F'_c=F'_{lambda}=0$.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:29
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@JasonS, geometrically, $f(a,b,c) = aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}$ is a plane and has no local maximum. Therefore, the maximum value is obtained on the boarder, i.e. when $a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2 = 1$. Then we construct an auxiliary function $F(a,b,c,lambda)=aS_{xx} + 2bS_{xy} + cS_{yy}-lambda(a^2 + 2b^2 + c^2-1)$ and search for the points where $F'_a=F'_b=F'_c=F'_{lambda}=0$.
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 22:29
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ah, ok, and it's brute force calculus + algebra after that.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:40
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ah, ok, and it's brute force calculus + algebra after that.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:40
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Hmmm. If I write $u=a, v=2b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
Did I get that right?
Take 2:
If I write $u=a, v=sqrt{2}b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+sqrt{2}vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},sqrt{2}S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+2S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
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No, because $|mathbf{r}|^2=a^2+color{red}{4}b^2+c^2$
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 21:21
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But $|mathbf{r}| = u^2+v^2+w^2$; I've gone through a change of variable.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:55
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Oh. You're right. Drat.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:57
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fixed it!!!!!!!
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:09
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Hmmm. If I write $u=a, v=2b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
Did I get that right?
Take 2:
If I write $u=a, v=sqrt{2}b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+sqrt{2}vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},sqrt{2}S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+2S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
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No, because $|mathbf{r}|^2=a^2+color{red}{4}b^2+c^2$
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 21:21
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But $|mathbf{r}| = u^2+v^2+w^2$; I've gone through a change of variable.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:55
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Oh. You're right. Drat.
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– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:57
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Jan 24 at 22:09
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Hmmm. If I write $u=a, v=2b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
Did I get that right?
Take 2:
If I write $u=a, v=sqrt{2}b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+sqrt{2}vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},sqrt{2}S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+2S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
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Hmmm. If I write $u=a, v=2b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
Did I get that right?
Take 2:
If I write $u=a, v=sqrt{2}b, w=c$ then I have a 3-dimensional vector $mathbf{r} = (u,v,w)$ of magnitude 1 or less, and the function $g(S_{xx},S_{xy},S_{yy}) = uS_{xx}+sqrt{2}vS_{xy}+wS_{yy} = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S}$ for $mathbf{S} = (S_{xx},sqrt{2}S_{xy},S_{yy})$ is maximized when $mathbf{r}$ and $mathbf{S}$ are in the same direction, or in other words, $mathbf{r} = frac{mathbf{S}}{lvertmathbf{S}rvert}$, in which case $g(mathbf{S}) = mathbf{r}cdotmathbf{S} = |mathbf{S}| = sqrt{S_{xx}{}^2+2S_{xy}{}^2+S_{yy}{}^2}$.
edited Jan 24 at 22:04
answered Jan 24 at 21:16
Jason SJason S
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No, because $|mathbf{r}|^2=a^2+color{red}{4}b^2+c^2$
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– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 21:21
$begingroup$
But $|mathbf{r}| = u^2+v^2+w^2$; I've gone through a change of variable.
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:55
$begingroup$
Oh. You're right. Drat.
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:57
1
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fixed it!!!!!!!
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:09
add a comment |
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No, because $|mathbf{r}|^2=a^2+color{red}{4}b^2+c^2$
$endgroup$
– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 21:21
$begingroup$
But $|mathbf{r}| = u^2+v^2+w^2$; I've gone through a change of variable.
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:55
$begingroup$
Oh. You're right. Drat.
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:57
1
$begingroup$
fixed it!!!!!!!
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:09
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No, because $|mathbf{r}|^2=a^2+color{red}{4}b^2+c^2$
$endgroup$
– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 21:21
$begingroup$
No, because $|mathbf{r}|^2=a^2+color{red}{4}b^2+c^2$
$endgroup$
– Zeekless
Jan 24 at 21:21
$begingroup$
But $|mathbf{r}| = u^2+v^2+w^2$; I've gone through a change of variable.
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:55
$begingroup$
But $|mathbf{r}| = u^2+v^2+w^2$; I've gone through a change of variable.
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:55
$begingroup$
Oh. You're right. Drat.
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:57
$begingroup$
Oh. You're right. Drat.
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 21:57
1
1
$begingroup$
fixed it!!!!!!!
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:09
$begingroup$
fixed it!!!!!!!
$endgroup$
– Jason S
Jan 24 at 22:09
add a comment |
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