For the equation given, evaluate y′ at the point (−2,−1) [closed]












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I must find the derivative for this equation
$$
(3x−y)^4+4y^3=621
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at the point $(-2,-1)$.










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    Have you tried anything yet?
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    – Jack Pfaffinger
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    Yes. Taking the derivative and plugging in for x and y values
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I must find the derivative for this equation
$$
(3x−y)^4+4y^3=621
$$

at the point $(-2,-1)$.










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closed as off-topic by T. Bongers, Dietrich Burde, Abcd, Alexander Gruber Jan 24 at 23:39


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    Have you tried anything yet?
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    – Jack Pfaffinger
    Jan 24 at 20:49










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    Yes. Taking the derivative and plugging in for x and y values
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    – Caroline Arns
    Jan 24 at 20:52










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    Ok, then maybe you should append your question to include what you tried and then we can tell you whether it is correct or not.
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    – Jack Pfaffinger
    Jan 24 at 20:54














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I must find the derivative for this equation
$$
(3x−y)^4+4y^3=621
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at the point $(-2,-1)$.










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I must find the derivative for this equation
$$
(3x−y)^4+4y^3=621
$$

at the point $(-2,-1)$.







calculus implicit-differentiation






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closed as off-topic by T. Bongers, Dietrich Burde, Abcd, Alexander Gruber Jan 24 at 23:39


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closed as off-topic by T. Bongers, Dietrich Burde, Abcd, Alexander Gruber Jan 24 at 23:39


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  • $begingroup$
    Have you tried anything yet?
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    – Jack Pfaffinger
    Jan 24 at 20:49










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    Yes. Taking the derivative and plugging in for x and y values
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    – Caroline Arns
    Jan 24 at 20:52










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    Ok, then maybe you should append your question to include what you tried and then we can tell you whether it is correct or not.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Pfaffinger
    Jan 24 at 20:54


















  • $begingroup$
    Have you tried anything yet?
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Pfaffinger
    Jan 24 at 20:49










  • $begingroup$
    Yes. Taking the derivative and plugging in for x and y values
    $endgroup$
    – Caroline Arns
    Jan 24 at 20:52










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    Ok, then maybe you should append your question to include what you tried and then we can tell you whether it is correct or not.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Pfaffinger
    Jan 24 at 20:54
















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Have you tried anything yet?
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– Jack Pfaffinger
Jan 24 at 20:49




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Have you tried anything yet?
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– Jack Pfaffinger
Jan 24 at 20:49












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Yes. Taking the derivative and plugging in for x and y values
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– Caroline Arns
Jan 24 at 20:52




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Yes. Taking the derivative and plugging in for x and y values
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– Caroline Arns
Jan 24 at 20:52












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Ok, then maybe you should append your question to include what you tried and then we can tell you whether it is correct or not.
$endgroup$
– Jack Pfaffinger
Jan 24 at 20:54




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Ok, then maybe you should append your question to include what you tried and then we can tell you whether it is correct or not.
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With some differential calculus: differentiating both sides you obtain:
$$4(3x-y)^3(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 y^2,mathrm dy=0$$
which becomes for $x=-2,;y=-1$:
$$-500(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 ,mathrm dy=0iff 512,mathrm dy=1500,mathrm dxifffrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=frac{1500}{512}=frac{375}{128}.$$






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    HINT




    1. Differentiate both sides (use Chain Rule carefully). You should get two terms with $y'$ and one term without $y'$ on the LHS and 0 on the RHS.

    2. Solve for $y'$.

    3. Plug in your point $x = -2,y=-1$.






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      Use $$left((3x-y)^4+4y^3right)'=0.$$



      We obtain $$4(3x-y)^3(3-y')+12y^2y'=0.$$
      Can you end it now?






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        I got y'=497/11
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        – Caroline Arns
        Jan 24 at 21:02










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        maybe I am missing a step I just solved it like any other "solve for variable" equation.
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        I got $y'(-2,-1)=frac{375}{128}.$
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      With some differential calculus: differentiating both sides you obtain:
      $$4(3x-y)^3(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 y^2,mathrm dy=0$$
      which becomes for $x=-2,;y=-1$:
      $$-500(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 ,mathrm dy=0iff 512,mathrm dy=1500,mathrm dxifffrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=frac{1500}{512}=frac{375}{128}.$$






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        With some differential calculus: differentiating both sides you obtain:
        $$4(3x-y)^3(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 y^2,mathrm dy=0$$
        which becomes for $x=-2,;y=-1$:
        $$-500(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 ,mathrm dy=0iff 512,mathrm dy=1500,mathrm dxifffrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=frac{1500}{512}=frac{375}{128}.$$






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          With some differential calculus: differentiating both sides you obtain:
          $$4(3x-y)^3(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 y^2,mathrm dy=0$$
          which becomes for $x=-2,;y=-1$:
          $$-500(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 ,mathrm dy=0iff 512,mathrm dy=1500,mathrm dxifffrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=frac{1500}{512}=frac{375}{128}.$$






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          With some differential calculus: differentiating both sides you obtain:
          $$4(3x-y)^3(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 y^2,mathrm dy=0$$
          which becomes for $x=-2,;y=-1$:
          $$-500(3,mathrm dx -mathrm dy)+12 ,mathrm dy=0iff 512,mathrm dy=1500,mathrm dxifffrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=frac{1500}{512}=frac{375}{128}.$$







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              HINT




              1. Differentiate both sides (use Chain Rule carefully). You should get two terms with $y'$ and one term without $y'$ on the LHS and 0 on the RHS.

              2. Solve for $y'$.

              3. Plug in your point $x = -2,y=-1$.






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                HINT




                1. Differentiate both sides (use Chain Rule carefully). You should get two terms with $y'$ and one term without $y'$ on the LHS and 0 on the RHS.

                2. Solve for $y'$.

                3. Plug in your point $x = -2,y=-1$.






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                  HINT




                  1. Differentiate both sides (use Chain Rule carefully). You should get two terms with $y'$ and one term without $y'$ on the LHS and 0 on the RHS.

                  2. Solve for $y'$.

                  3. Plug in your point $x = -2,y=-1$.






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                  HINT




                  1. Differentiate both sides (use Chain Rule carefully). You should get two terms with $y'$ and one term without $y'$ on the LHS and 0 on the RHS.

                  2. Solve for $y'$.

                  3. Plug in your point $x = -2,y=-1$.







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                  answered Jan 24 at 20:51









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                      Use $$left((3x-y)^4+4y^3right)'=0.$$



                      We obtain $$4(3x-y)^3(3-y')+12y^2y'=0.$$
                      Can you end it now?






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                        I got y'=497/11
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                        – Caroline Arns
                        Jan 24 at 21:02










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                        maybe I am missing a step I just solved it like any other "solve for variable" equation.
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                        – Caroline Arns
                        Jan 24 at 21:08










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                        I got $y'(-2,-1)=frac{375}{128}.$
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                        – Michael Rozenberg
                        Jan 24 at 21:12
















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                      Use $$left((3x-y)^4+4y^3right)'=0.$$



                      We obtain $$4(3x-y)^3(3-y')+12y^2y'=0.$$
                      Can you end it now?






                      share|cite|improve this answer









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                        I got y'=497/11
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                        – Caroline Arns
                        Jan 24 at 21:02










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                        maybe I am missing a step I just solved it like any other "solve for variable" equation.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Caroline Arns
                        Jan 24 at 21:08










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                        I got $y'(-2,-1)=frac{375}{128}.$
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                        – Michael Rozenberg
                        Jan 24 at 21:12














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                      Use $$left((3x-y)^4+4y^3right)'=0.$$



                      We obtain $$4(3x-y)^3(3-y')+12y^2y'=0.$$
                      Can you end it now?






                      share|cite|improve this answer









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                      Use $$left((3x-y)^4+4y^3right)'=0.$$



                      We obtain $$4(3x-y)^3(3-y')+12y^2y'=0.$$
                      Can you end it now?







                      share|cite|improve this answer












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                      answered Jan 24 at 20:52









                      Michael RozenbergMichael Rozenberg

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                        I got y'=497/11
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                        – Caroline Arns
                        Jan 24 at 21:02










                      • $begingroup$
                        maybe I am missing a step I just solved it like any other "solve for variable" equation.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Caroline Arns
                        Jan 24 at 21:08










                      • $begingroup$
                        I got $y'(-2,-1)=frac{375}{128}.$
                        $endgroup$
                        – Michael Rozenberg
                        Jan 24 at 21:12


















                      • $begingroup$
                        I got y'=497/11
                        $endgroup$
                        – Caroline Arns
                        Jan 24 at 21:02










                      • $begingroup$
                        maybe I am missing a step I just solved it like any other "solve for variable" equation.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Caroline Arns
                        Jan 24 at 21:08










                      • $begingroup$
                        I got $y'(-2,-1)=frac{375}{128}.$
                        $endgroup$
                        – Michael Rozenberg
                        Jan 24 at 21:12
















                      $begingroup$
                      I got y'=497/11
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                      – Caroline Arns
                      Jan 24 at 21:02




                      $begingroup$
                      I got y'=497/11
                      $endgroup$
                      – Caroline Arns
                      Jan 24 at 21:02












                      $begingroup$
                      maybe I am missing a step I just solved it like any other "solve for variable" equation.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Caroline Arns
                      Jan 24 at 21:08




                      $begingroup$
                      maybe I am missing a step I just solved it like any other "solve for variable" equation.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Caroline Arns
                      Jan 24 at 21:08












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                      I got $y'(-2,-1)=frac{375}{128}.$
                      $endgroup$
                      – Michael Rozenberg
                      Jan 24 at 21:12




                      $begingroup$
                      I got $y'(-2,-1)=frac{375}{128}.$
                      $endgroup$
                      – Michael Rozenberg
                      Jan 24 at 21:12



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