Is it possible to have a scroll which casts a spell at higher than its spell list level?
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I know that, by default, magic items cast spells of the lowest level possible for that spell.
However, is there any specific way by the rules to have a scroll that casts a spell at a higher level than that spell appears in a spell list? For example, can I ever have a scroll that casts magic missile (a 1st level spell) at 2nd level?
Note: I am not asking if you can take a normal 1st level scroll of magic missile and cast it at a higher level as in this question. I am asking if 2nd level scrolls of magic missile can be made/exist at all - a related but different question.
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I know that, by default, magic items cast spells of the lowest level possible for that spell.
However, is there any specific way by the rules to have a scroll that casts a spell at a higher level than that spell appears in a spell list? For example, can I ever have a scroll that casts magic missile (a 1st level spell) at 2nd level?
Note: I am not asking if you can take a normal 1st level scroll of magic missile and cast it at a higher level as in this question. I am asking if 2nd level scrolls of magic missile can be made/exist at all - a related but different question.
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I know that, by default, magic items cast spells of the lowest level possible for that spell.
However, is there any specific way by the rules to have a scroll that casts a spell at a higher level than that spell appears in a spell list? For example, can I ever have a scroll that casts magic missile (a 1st level spell) at 2nd level?
Note: I am not asking if you can take a normal 1st level scroll of magic missile and cast it at a higher level as in this question. I am asking if 2nd level scrolls of magic missile can be made/exist at all - a related but different question.
dnd-5e spells magic-items
asked Jan 10 at 13:32
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
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I know that, by default, magic items cast spells of the lowest level possible for that spell.
However, is there any specific way by the rules to have a scroll that casts a spell at a higher level than that spell appears in a spell list? For example, can I ever have a scroll that casts magic missile (a 1st level spell) at 2nd level?
Note: I am not asking if you can take a normal 1st level scroll of magic missile and cast it at a higher level as in this question. I am asking if 2nd level scrolls of magic missile can be made/exist at all - a related but different question.
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Yes.
If the description says it does, then it can. Otherwise, the lowest level is assumed.
General rule for casting spells from magic items:
Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise.
Scroll Levels
Spell scrolls are not explicitly stated to always be at the lowest possible level for the spell. That is the default for magic items. So a "scroll of magic missile" would be a level 1 scroll and follow the table for casting an L1 scroll. However, a "scroll of magic missile level two" would be a level two spell scroll. It still fits with the general description of spell scrolls, and with magic items since the description states the spell level.
Scribing
Xanathar's Guide to Everything offers guidance on the cost and nature of scribing spell scrolls. It has a table relating the level of the spell to the cost of it and the requirements on the scribe.
Following the table, scribing a 2nd level magic missile scroll would take the cost from 25gp to 250gp and doubles the required time to complete the task.
answered Jan 10 at 14:03
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Yes, if specified on the scroll
Following Sage Advice (quoted below) it's possible to come across scrolls with specified levels for the inscribed spell.
@newbiedm
would a 5e spell scroll point out at what level the spell is cast, for those spells that can be cast using higher spell slots? #dnd
@JeremyECrawford
The spell on a spell scroll is at the spell's lowest level, unless a particular scroll says otherwise
answered Jan 10 at 14:28
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Yes.
If the description says it does, then it can. Otherwise, the lowest level is assumed.
General rule for casting spells from magic items:
Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise.
Scroll Levels
Spell scrolls are not explicitly stated to always be at the lowest possible level for the spell. That is the default for magic items. So a "scroll of magic missile" would be a level 1 scroll and follow the table for casting an L1 scroll. However, a "scroll of magic missile level two" would be a level two spell scroll. It still fits with the general description of spell scrolls, and with magic items since the description states the spell level.
Scribing
Xanathar's Guide to Everything offers guidance on the cost and nature of scribing spell scrolls. It has a table relating the level of the spell to the cost of it and the requirements on the scribe.
Following the table, scribing a 2nd level magic missile scroll would take the cost from 25gp to 250gp and doubles the required time to complete the task.
answered Jan 10 at 14:03
GrosscolGrosscol
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Yes.
If the description says it does, then it can. Otherwise, the lowest level is assumed.
General rule for casting spells from magic items:
Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise.
Scroll Levels
Spell scrolls are not explicitly stated to always be at the lowest possible level for the spell. That is the default for magic items. So a "scroll of magic missile" would be a level 1 scroll and follow the table for casting an L1 scroll. However, a "scroll of magic missile level two" would be a level two spell scroll. It still fits with the general description of spell scrolls, and with magic items since the description states the spell level.
Scribing
Xanathar's Guide to Everything offers guidance on the cost and nature of scribing spell scrolls. It has a table relating the level of the spell to the cost of it and the requirements on the scribe.
Following the table, scribing a 2nd level magic missile scroll would take the cost from 25gp to 250gp and doubles the required time to complete the task.
answered Jan 10 at 14:03
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Yes.
If the description says it does, then it can. Otherwise, the lowest level is assumed.
General rule for casting spells from magic items:
Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise.
Scroll Levels
Spell scrolls are not explicitly stated to always be at the lowest possible level for the spell. That is the default for magic items. So a "scroll of magic missile" would be a level 1 scroll and follow the table for casting an L1 scroll. However, a "scroll of magic missile level two" would be a level two spell scroll. It still fits with the general description of spell scrolls, and with magic items since the description states the spell level.
Scribing
Xanathar's Guide to Everything offers guidance on the cost and nature of scribing spell scrolls. It has a table relating the level of the spell to the cost of it and the requirements on the scribe.
Following the table, scribing a 2nd level magic missile scroll would take the cost from 25gp to 250gp and doubles the required time to complete the task.
answered Jan 10 at 14:03
GrosscolGrosscol
8,6871962
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Yes.
If the description says it does, then it can. Otherwise, the lowest level is assumed.
General rule for casting spells from magic items:
Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise.
Scroll Levels
Spell scrolls are not explicitly stated to always be at the lowest possible level for the spell. That is the default for magic items. So a "scroll of magic missile" would be a level 1 scroll and follow the table for casting an L1 scroll. However, a "scroll of magic missile level two" would be a level two spell scroll. It still fits with the general description of spell scrolls, and with magic items since the description states the spell level.
Scribing
Xanathar's Guide to Everything offers guidance on the cost and nature of scribing spell scrolls. It has a table relating the level of the spell to the cost of it and the requirements on the scribe.
Following the table, scribing a 2nd level magic missile scroll would take the cost from 25gp to 250gp and doubles the required time to complete the task.
answered Jan 10 at 14:03
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Yes, if specified on the scroll
Following Sage Advice (quoted below) it's possible to come across scrolls with specified levels for the inscribed spell.
@newbiedm
would a 5e spell scroll point out at what level the spell is cast, for those spells that can be cast using higher spell slots? #dnd
@JeremyECrawford
The spell on a spell scroll is at the spell's lowest level, unless a particular scroll says otherwise
answered Jan 10 at 14:28
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Yes, if specified on the scroll
Following Sage Advice (quoted below) it's possible to come across scrolls with specified levels for the inscribed spell.
@newbiedm
would a 5e spell scroll point out at what level the spell is cast, for those spells that can be cast using higher spell slots? #dnd
@JeremyECrawford
The spell on a spell scroll is at the spell's lowest level, unless a particular scroll says otherwise
answered Jan 10 at 14:28
bigchickcannibalisticbigchickcannibalistic
52210
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Yes, if specified on the scroll
Following Sage Advice (quoted below) it's possible to come across scrolls with specified levels for the inscribed spell.
@newbiedm
would a 5e spell scroll point out at what level the spell is cast, for those spells that can be cast using higher spell slots? #dnd
@JeremyECrawford
The spell on a spell scroll is at the spell's lowest level, unless a particular scroll says otherwise
answered Jan 10 at 14:28
bigchickcannibalisticbigchickcannibalistic
52210
$endgroup$
Yes, if specified on the scroll
Following Sage Advice (quoted below) it's possible to come across scrolls with specified levels for the inscribed spell.
@newbiedm
would a 5e spell scroll point out at what level the spell is cast, for those spells that can be cast using higher spell slots? #dnd
@JeremyECrawford
The spell on a spell scroll is at the spell's lowest level, unless a particular scroll says otherwise
answered Jan 10 at 14:28
bigchickcannibalisticbigchickcannibalistic
52210
answered Jan 10 at 14:28
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answered Jan 10 at 14:28
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