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Let $M = begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} \ mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$.



Show that $M$ is not completely reducible as a left module over $R = begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} & 0 \ mathbb{C} & mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$.



I'm not sure how to tackle this? I can spot that $N = begin{bmatrix} 0 \ mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$ is a submodule of $M$, but how do I show that it has no complement in $M$?



I thought about checking if $begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} \ 0 end{bmatrix}$ is not a submodule of $M$, but this isn't sufficient as there are plenty of other submodules.










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    Let $M = begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} \ mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$.



    Show that $M$ is not completely reducible as a left module over $R = begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} & 0 \ mathbb{C} & mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$.



    I'm not sure how to tackle this? I can spot that $N = begin{bmatrix} 0 \ mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$ is a submodule of $M$, but how do I show that it has no complement in $M$?



    I thought about checking if $begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} \ 0 end{bmatrix}$ is not a submodule of $M$, but this isn't sufficient as there are plenty of other submodules.










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      Let $M = begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} \ mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$.



      Show that $M$ is not completely reducible as a left module over $R = begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} & 0 \ mathbb{C} & mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$.



      I'm not sure how to tackle this? I can spot that $N = begin{bmatrix} 0 \ mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$ is a submodule of $M$, but how do I show that it has no complement in $M$?



      I thought about checking if $begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} \ 0 end{bmatrix}$ is not a submodule of $M$, but this isn't sufficient as there are plenty of other submodules.










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      Let $M = begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} \ mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$.



      Show that $M$ is not completely reducible as a left module over $R = begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} & 0 \ mathbb{C} & mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$.



      I'm not sure how to tackle this? I can spot that $N = begin{bmatrix} 0 \ mathbb{C} end{bmatrix}$ is a submodule of $M$, but how do I show that it has no complement in $M$?



      I thought about checking if $begin{bmatrix} mathbb{C} \ 0 end{bmatrix}$ is not a submodule of $M$, but this isn't sufficient as there are plenty of other submodules.







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          Let $K$ be a nonzero submodule of $M$ and suppose
          $$
          x=begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix} in K
          $$

          with $xne0$. Then
          $$
          begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 \ beta & gamma end{bmatrix}
          begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix}=
          begin{bmatrix} 0 \ beta p+gamma q end{bmatrix}
          $$

          and we can obviously choose $beta$ and $gamma$ such that $beta p+gamma q$ is every complex number we fix. This shows $Nsubseteq K$.






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            So why does it follow that $N$ doesn’t have a complement in $M$?
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            @theman It follows that $N$ is the unique minimal submodule of $M$. Hence $M$ is not the sum of simple submodules. But the other way is good as well: a complement should not contain $N$, but it can't.
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          The subspaces of $M$ are of the form$$left{begin{bmatrix}az\bzend{bmatrix},middle|,zinmathbb{C}right},$$for some complex numbers $a$ and $b$. It is easy to see that, unless $a=0$, none of them is a submodule.






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            $begingroup$

            Let $K$ be a nonzero submodule of $M$ and suppose
            $$
            x=begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix} in K
            $$

            with $xne0$. Then
            $$
            begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 \ beta & gamma end{bmatrix}
            begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix}=
            begin{bmatrix} 0 \ beta p+gamma q end{bmatrix}
            $$

            and we can obviously choose $beta$ and $gamma$ such that $beta p+gamma q$ is every complex number we fix. This shows $Nsubseteq K$.






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              So why does it follow that $N$ doesn’t have a complement in $M$?
              $endgroup$
              – the man
              Jan 20 at 21:47










            • $begingroup$
              @theman It follows that $N$ is the unique minimal submodule of $M$. Hence $M$ is not the sum of simple submodules. But the other way is good as well: a complement should not contain $N$, but it can't.
              $endgroup$
              – egreg
              Jan 20 at 21:48


















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            $begingroup$

            Let $K$ be a nonzero submodule of $M$ and suppose
            $$
            x=begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix} in K
            $$

            with $xne0$. Then
            $$
            begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 \ beta & gamma end{bmatrix}
            begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix}=
            begin{bmatrix} 0 \ beta p+gamma q end{bmatrix}
            $$

            and we can obviously choose $beta$ and $gamma$ such that $beta p+gamma q$ is every complex number we fix. This shows $Nsubseteq K$.






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              So why does it follow that $N$ doesn’t have a complement in $M$?
              $endgroup$
              – the man
              Jan 20 at 21:47










            • $begingroup$
              @theman It follows that $N$ is the unique minimal submodule of $M$. Hence $M$ is not the sum of simple submodules. But the other way is good as well: a complement should not contain $N$, but it can't.
              $endgroup$
              – egreg
              Jan 20 at 21:48
















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            $begingroup$

            Let $K$ be a nonzero submodule of $M$ and suppose
            $$
            x=begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix} in K
            $$

            with $xne0$. Then
            $$
            begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 \ beta & gamma end{bmatrix}
            begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix}=
            begin{bmatrix} 0 \ beta p+gamma q end{bmatrix}
            $$

            and we can obviously choose $beta$ and $gamma$ such that $beta p+gamma q$ is every complex number we fix. This shows $Nsubseteq K$.






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            Let $K$ be a nonzero submodule of $M$ and suppose
            $$
            x=begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix} in K
            $$

            with $xne0$. Then
            $$
            begin{bmatrix} 0 & 0 \ beta & gamma end{bmatrix}
            begin{bmatrix} p \ q end{bmatrix}=
            begin{bmatrix} 0 \ beta p+gamma q end{bmatrix}
            $$

            and we can obviously choose $beta$ and $gamma$ such that $beta p+gamma q$ is every complex number we fix. This shows $Nsubseteq K$.







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            • $begingroup$
              So why does it follow that $N$ doesn’t have a complement in $M$?
              $endgroup$
              – the man
              Jan 20 at 21:47










            • $begingroup$
              @theman It follows that $N$ is the unique minimal submodule of $M$. Hence $M$ is not the sum of simple submodules. But the other way is good as well: a complement should not contain $N$, but it can't.
              $endgroup$
              – egreg
              Jan 20 at 21:48




















            • $begingroup$
              So why does it follow that $N$ doesn’t have a complement in $M$?
              $endgroup$
              – the man
              Jan 20 at 21:47










            • $begingroup$
              @theman It follows that $N$ is the unique minimal submodule of $M$. Hence $M$ is not the sum of simple submodules. But the other way is good as well: a complement should not contain $N$, but it can't.
              $endgroup$
              – egreg
              Jan 20 at 21:48


















            $begingroup$
            So why does it follow that $N$ doesn’t have a complement in $M$?
            $endgroup$
            – the man
            Jan 20 at 21:47




            $begingroup$
            So why does it follow that $N$ doesn’t have a complement in $M$?
            $endgroup$
            – the man
            Jan 20 at 21:47












            $begingroup$
            @theman It follows that $N$ is the unique minimal submodule of $M$. Hence $M$ is not the sum of simple submodules. But the other way is good as well: a complement should not contain $N$, but it can't.
            $endgroup$
            – egreg
            Jan 20 at 21:48






            $begingroup$
            @theman It follows that $N$ is the unique minimal submodule of $M$. Hence $M$ is not the sum of simple submodules. But the other way is good as well: a complement should not contain $N$, but it can't.
            $endgroup$
            – egreg
            Jan 20 at 21:48













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            The subspaces of $M$ are of the form$$left{begin{bmatrix}az\bzend{bmatrix},middle|,zinmathbb{C}right},$$for some complex numbers $a$ and $b$. It is easy to see that, unless $a=0$, none of them is a submodule.






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              The subspaces of $M$ are of the form$$left{begin{bmatrix}az\bzend{bmatrix},middle|,zinmathbb{C}right},$$for some complex numbers $a$ and $b$. It is easy to see that, unless $a=0$, none of them is a submodule.






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                The subspaces of $M$ are of the form$$left{begin{bmatrix}az\bzend{bmatrix},middle|,zinmathbb{C}right},$$for some complex numbers $a$ and $b$. It is easy to see that, unless $a=0$, none of them is a submodule.






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                The subspaces of $M$ are of the form$$left{begin{bmatrix}az\bzend{bmatrix},middle|,zinmathbb{C}right},$$for some complex numbers $a$ and $b$. It is easy to see that, unless $a=0$, none of them is a submodule.







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