Bounding || zx - yz || given that || x - y || < M in a Banach algebra.












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Let $ X $ be an Banach algebra (not necessarily commutative), and let $ x, y, z in X $. Suppose that $ | x - y | < M $.



I want to bound $ | zx - yz | $ in terms of $ M $ by writing $ zx - yz $ as a product of terms including the term $ x - y $, but I don't see how to do so (or if it is even possible).



If it is possible, I am assuming it is just an elementary factoring trick that I am blanking out on.



Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!










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    For $M = 0$ you do not have a chance.
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    – Paul Frost
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    Whoops. I should have wrote strict inequality like in the title. I'll edit it now. Thanks for the catch.
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    – LMW
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$begingroup$


Let $ X $ be an Banach algebra (not necessarily commutative), and let $ x, y, z in X $. Suppose that $ | x - y | < M $.



I want to bound $ | zx - yz | $ in terms of $ M $ by writing $ zx - yz $ as a product of terms including the term $ x - y $, but I don't see how to do so (or if it is even possible).



If it is possible, I am assuming it is just an elementary factoring trick that I am blanking out on.



Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!










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  • $begingroup$
    For $M = 0$ you do not have a chance.
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Jan 21 at 18:37










  • $begingroup$
    Whoops. I should have wrote strict inequality like in the title. I'll edit it now. Thanks for the catch.
    $endgroup$
    – LMW
    Jan 21 at 18:39














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$begingroup$


Let $ X $ be an Banach algebra (not necessarily commutative), and let $ x, y, z in X $. Suppose that $ | x - y | < M $.



I want to bound $ | zx - yz | $ in terms of $ M $ by writing $ zx - yz $ as a product of terms including the term $ x - y $, but I don't see how to do so (or if it is even possible).



If it is possible, I am assuming it is just an elementary factoring trick that I am blanking out on.



Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!










share|cite|improve this question











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Let $ X $ be an Banach algebra (not necessarily commutative), and let $ x, y, z in X $. Suppose that $ | x - y | < M $.



I want to bound $ | zx - yz | $ in terms of $ M $ by writing $ zx - yz $ as a product of terms including the term $ x - y $, but I don't see how to do so (or if it is even possible).



If it is possible, I am assuming it is just an elementary factoring trick that I am blanking out on.



Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!







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  • $begingroup$
    For $M = 0$ you do not have a chance.
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Jan 21 at 18:37










  • $begingroup$
    Whoops. I should have wrote strict inequality like in the title. I'll edit it now. Thanks for the catch.
    $endgroup$
    – LMW
    Jan 21 at 18:39


















  • $begingroup$
    For $M = 0$ you do not have a chance.
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Jan 21 at 18:37










  • $begingroup$
    Whoops. I should have wrote strict inequality like in the title. I'll edit it now. Thanks for the catch.
    $endgroup$
    – LMW
    Jan 21 at 18:39
















$begingroup$
For $M = 0$ you do not have a chance.
$endgroup$
– Paul Frost
Jan 21 at 18:37




$begingroup$
For $M = 0$ you do not have a chance.
$endgroup$
– Paul Frost
Jan 21 at 18:37












$begingroup$
Whoops. I should have wrote strict inequality like in the title. I'll edit it now. Thanks for the catch.
$endgroup$
– LMW
Jan 21 at 18:39




$begingroup$
Whoops. I should have wrote strict inequality like in the title. I'll edit it now. Thanks for the catch.
$endgroup$
– LMW
Jan 21 at 18:39










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You can't in general. If you pick $y=x$ then you have $|x-y|<M$ for all $M$, while $|zx-yz|=|[z,x]|$ may be arbitrary (pick a ring of matrices for example).






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You can't in general. If you pick $y=x$ then you have $|x-y|<M$ for all $M$, while $|zx-yz|=|[z,x]|$ may be arbitrary (pick a ring of matrices for example).






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You can't in general. If you pick $y=x$ then you have $|x-y|<M$ for all $M$, while $|zx-yz|=|[z,x]|$ may be arbitrary (pick a ring of matrices for example).






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You can't in general. If you pick $y=x$ then you have $|x-y|<M$ for all $M$, while $|zx-yz|=|[z,x]|$ may be arbitrary (pick a ring of matrices for example).






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You can't in general. If you pick $y=x$ then you have $|x-y|<M$ for all $M$, while $|zx-yz|=|[z,x]|$ may be arbitrary (pick a ring of matrices for example).







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