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I'm working on a cryptography algorithm. We need $GF(2^n)$ for large n. Therefore we are looking for large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$. Especially we want trinomial and n~65536. I tried to use mathematica but it's too slow.










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  • Good question. Some large irreducibles might be tabulated somewhere.
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  • Do you need many such polynomials, or just a few?
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I'm working on a cryptography algorithm. We need $GF(2^n)$ for large n. Therefore we are looking for large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$. Especially we want trinomial and n~65536. I tried to use mathematica but it's too slow.










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  • Good question. Some large irreducibles might be tabulated somewhere.
    – Wuestenfux
    Jan 6 at 10:26










  • Do you need many such polynomials, or just a few?
    – MJD
    Jan 6 at 10:52














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I'm working on a cryptography algorithm. We need $GF(2^n)$ for large n. Therefore we are looking for large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$. Especially we want trinomial and n~65536. I tried to use mathematica but it's too slow.










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I'm working on a cryptography algorithm. We need $GF(2^n)$ for large n. Therefore we are looking for large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$. Especially we want trinomial and n~65536. I tried to use mathematica but it's too slow.







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  • Good question. Some large irreducibles might be tabulated somewhere.
    – Wuestenfux
    Jan 6 at 10:26










  • Do you need many such polynomials, or just a few?
    – MJD
    Jan 6 at 10:52


















  • Good question. Some large irreducibles might be tabulated somewhere.
    – Wuestenfux
    Jan 6 at 10:26










  • Do you need many such polynomials, or just a few?
    – MJD
    Jan 6 at 10:52
















Good question. Some large irreducibles might be tabulated somewhere.
– Wuestenfux
Jan 6 at 10:26




Good question. Some large irreducibles might be tabulated somewhere.
– Wuestenfux
Jan 6 at 10:26












Do you need many such polynomials, or just a few?
– MJD
Jan 6 at 10:52




Do you need many such polynomials, or just a few?
– MJD
Jan 6 at 10:52










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Lidl and Niederreiter give an explicit infinite family of irreducible polynomials in $Bbb F_2[x]$ of arbitrary high degree. For any $kge 1$ the polynomial
$$
p_k(X)=X^{2cdot3^k}+X^{3^k}+1in Bbb F_2[X]
$$

is irreducible (these are trinomials, as you wanted).






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  • Thanks! but the nearest $2times 3^k$ is 39366, which is not so close
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 12:32










  • I thought, you wanted (see title) to know "how can I find large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$?", and $2cdot 3^{10}=118098$ is even larger than $65536$. But you can also find a irreducible polynomial $X^{65536}+cdots $, see here.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Jan 6 at 12:36












  • Thanks, that's helpful.
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 13:22


















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1 Answer
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active

oldest

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Lidl and Niederreiter give an explicit infinite family of irreducible polynomials in $Bbb F_2[x]$ of arbitrary high degree. For any $kge 1$ the polynomial
$$
p_k(X)=X^{2cdot3^k}+X^{3^k}+1in Bbb F_2[X]
$$

is irreducible (these are trinomials, as you wanted).






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  • Thanks! but the nearest $2times 3^k$ is 39366, which is not so close
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 12:32










  • I thought, you wanted (see title) to know "how can I find large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$?", and $2cdot 3^{10}=118098$ is even larger than $65536$. But you can also find a irreducible polynomial $X^{65536}+cdots $, see here.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Jan 6 at 12:36












  • Thanks, that's helpful.
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 13:22
















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Lidl and Niederreiter give an explicit infinite family of irreducible polynomials in $Bbb F_2[x]$ of arbitrary high degree. For any $kge 1$ the polynomial
$$
p_k(X)=X^{2cdot3^k}+X^{3^k}+1in Bbb F_2[X]
$$

is irreducible (these are trinomials, as you wanted).






share|cite|improve this answer























  • Thanks! but the nearest $2times 3^k$ is 39366, which is not so close
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 12:32










  • I thought, you wanted (see title) to know "how can I find large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$?", and $2cdot 3^{10}=118098$ is even larger than $65536$. But you can also find a irreducible polynomial $X^{65536}+cdots $, see here.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Jan 6 at 12:36












  • Thanks, that's helpful.
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 13:22














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Lidl and Niederreiter give an explicit infinite family of irreducible polynomials in $Bbb F_2[x]$ of arbitrary high degree. For any $kge 1$ the polynomial
$$
p_k(X)=X^{2cdot3^k}+X^{3^k}+1in Bbb F_2[X]
$$

is irreducible (these are trinomials, as you wanted).






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Lidl and Niederreiter give an explicit infinite family of irreducible polynomials in $Bbb F_2[x]$ of arbitrary high degree. For any $kge 1$ the polynomial
$$
p_k(X)=X^{2cdot3^k}+X^{3^k}+1in Bbb F_2[X]
$$

is irreducible (these are trinomials, as you wanted).







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answered Jan 6 at 11:06









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  • Thanks! but the nearest $2times 3^k$ is 39366, which is not so close
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 12:32










  • I thought, you wanted (see title) to know "how can I find large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$?", and $2cdot 3^{10}=118098$ is even larger than $65536$. But you can also find a irreducible polynomial $X^{65536}+cdots $, see here.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Jan 6 at 12:36












  • Thanks, that's helpful.
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 13:22


















  • Thanks! but the nearest $2times 3^k$ is 39366, which is not so close
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 12:32










  • I thought, you wanted (see title) to know "how can I find large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$?", and $2cdot 3^{10}=118098$ is even larger than $65536$. But you can also find a irreducible polynomial $X^{65536}+cdots $, see here.
    – Dietrich Burde
    Jan 6 at 12:36












  • Thanks, that's helpful.
    – Kaiyi Zhang
    Jan 6 at 13:22
















Thanks! but the nearest $2times 3^k$ is 39366, which is not so close
– Kaiyi Zhang
Jan 6 at 12:32




Thanks! but the nearest $2times 3^k$ is 39366, which is not so close
– Kaiyi Zhang
Jan 6 at 12:32












I thought, you wanted (see title) to know "how can I find large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$?", and $2cdot 3^{10}=118098$ is even larger than $65536$. But you can also find a irreducible polynomial $X^{65536}+cdots $, see here.
– Dietrich Burde
Jan 6 at 12:36






I thought, you wanted (see title) to know "how can I find large irreducible polynomials over $mathbf{Z}_2$?", and $2cdot 3^{10}=118098$ is even larger than $65536$. But you can also find a irreducible polynomial $X^{65536}+cdots $, see here.
– Dietrich Burde
Jan 6 at 12:36














Thanks, that's helpful.
– Kaiyi Zhang
Jan 6 at 13:22




Thanks, that's helpful.
– Kaiyi Zhang
Jan 6 at 13:22



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