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A cone has its guiding curve to the circle $x^2+y^2+2ax+2by=0$ and passes through a fixed point $(0,0,c)$. If the section of the cone by plane $y=0$ is a rectangular hyperbola. Prove that the vertex lies on fixed circle $x^2+y^2+z^2+2ax+2by=0$ and $2ax+2by+cz=0$.




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Using equation of circle and fixed point, equation of cone can be found out, it comes:



$$cx^2+cy^2-2axz-2byz+2acx+2bcy=0$$



Its section by $y=0$ plane comes out to be
$$cx^2-2axz+2ax=0$$



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    Your equation for the cone cannot be right: it contains all the $z$-axis and not only point $(0,0,c)$.
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    @Aretino since z axis is also one of the generating line. As it passes through origin and (0,0,c). Therefore equation of cone contain all the z axis.
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    It needn't be so: if the $z$-axis were a generatrix then the vertex of the cone would lie on the $z$-axis, contradicting the claim that it belongs to a circle. Point $P=(0,0,c)$ can lie on the cone even if $z$-axis is not a generatrix: just join $P$ with any point $Q$ on the guiding circle (different from the origin) and choose cone vertex at will on line $PQ$.
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    I think there is a misunderstanding. What i interpreted from the question is that we need to find vertex of hyperbola. Because P(0,0,c) is the fixed point so each generatrix must pass through it and therefore it is a vertex.
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    The vertex of the hyperbola, as the hyperbola itself, lies on plane $y=0$, while the circle given as solution lies on a different plane. Hence I'm afraid your interpretation doesn't hold. In my opinion the locus is formed by the vertex of the cone.
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A cone has its guiding curve to the circle $x^2+y^2+2ax+2by=0$ and passes through a fixed point $(0,0,c)$. If the section of the cone by plane $y=0$ is a rectangular hyperbola. Prove that the vertex lies on fixed circle $x^2+y^2+z^2+2ax+2by=0$ and $2ax+2by+cz=0$.




Attempt:



Using equation of circle and fixed point, equation of cone can be found out, it comes:



$$cx^2+cy^2-2axz-2byz+2acx+2bcy=0$$



Its section by $y=0$ plane comes out to be
$$cx^2-2axz+2ax=0$$



I am unable to proceed further. Please help










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    Your equation for the cone cannot be right: it contains all the $z$-axis and not only point $(0,0,c)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Jan 20 at 18:31










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    @Aretino since z axis is also one of the generating line. As it passes through origin and (0,0,c). Therefore equation of cone contain all the z axis.
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    – Sanchit Vijay
    Jan 22 at 7:57








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    $begingroup$
    It needn't be so: if the $z$-axis were a generatrix then the vertex of the cone would lie on the $z$-axis, contradicting the claim that it belongs to a circle. Point $P=(0,0,c)$ can lie on the cone even if $z$-axis is not a generatrix: just join $P$ with any point $Q$ on the guiding circle (different from the origin) and choose cone vertex at will on line $PQ$.
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    I think there is a misunderstanding. What i interpreted from the question is that we need to find vertex of hyperbola. Because P(0,0,c) is the fixed point so each generatrix must pass through it and therefore it is a vertex.
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    Jan 23 at 6:03










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    The vertex of the hyperbola, as the hyperbola itself, lies on plane $y=0$, while the circle given as solution lies on a different plane. Hence I'm afraid your interpretation doesn't hold. In my opinion the locus is formed by the vertex of the cone.
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A cone has its guiding curve to the circle $x^2+y^2+2ax+2by=0$ and passes through a fixed point $(0,0,c)$. If the section of the cone by plane $y=0$ is a rectangular hyperbola. Prove that the vertex lies on fixed circle $x^2+y^2+z^2+2ax+2by=0$ and $2ax+2by+cz=0$.




Attempt:



Using equation of circle and fixed point, equation of cone can be found out, it comes:



$$cx^2+cy^2-2axz-2byz+2acx+2bcy=0$$



Its section by $y=0$ plane comes out to be
$$cx^2-2axz+2ax=0$$



I am unable to proceed further. Please help










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A cone has its guiding curve to the circle $x^2+y^2+2ax+2by=0$ and passes through a fixed point $(0,0,c)$. If the section of the cone by plane $y=0$ is a rectangular hyperbola. Prove that the vertex lies on fixed circle $x^2+y^2+z^2+2ax+2by=0$ and $2ax+2by+cz=0$.




Attempt:



Using equation of circle and fixed point, equation of cone can be found out, it comes:



$$cx^2+cy^2-2axz-2byz+2acx+2bcy=0$$



Its section by $y=0$ plane comes out to be
$$cx^2-2axz+2ax=0$$



I am unable to proceed further. Please help







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    Your equation for the cone cannot be right: it contains all the $z$-axis and not only point $(0,0,c)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Jan 20 at 18:31










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    @Aretino since z axis is also one of the generating line. As it passes through origin and (0,0,c). Therefore equation of cone contain all the z axis.
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    – Sanchit Vijay
    Jan 22 at 7:57








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    $begingroup$
    It needn't be so: if the $z$-axis were a generatrix then the vertex of the cone would lie on the $z$-axis, contradicting the claim that it belongs to a circle. Point $P=(0,0,c)$ can lie on the cone even if $z$-axis is not a generatrix: just join $P$ with any point $Q$ on the guiding circle (different from the origin) and choose cone vertex at will on line $PQ$.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Jan 22 at 11:51










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    I think there is a misunderstanding. What i interpreted from the question is that we need to find vertex of hyperbola. Because P(0,0,c) is the fixed point so each generatrix must pass through it and therefore it is a vertex.
    $endgroup$
    – Sanchit Vijay
    Jan 23 at 6:03










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    The vertex of the hyperbola, as the hyperbola itself, lies on plane $y=0$, while the circle given as solution lies on a different plane. Hence I'm afraid your interpretation doesn't hold. In my opinion the locus is formed by the vertex of the cone.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Jan 23 at 13:39




















  • $begingroup$
    Your equation for the cone cannot be right: it contains all the $z$-axis and not only point $(0,0,c)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Jan 20 at 18:31










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    @Aretino since z axis is also one of the generating line. As it passes through origin and (0,0,c). Therefore equation of cone contain all the z axis.
    $endgroup$
    – Sanchit Vijay
    Jan 22 at 7:57








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It needn't be so: if the $z$-axis were a generatrix then the vertex of the cone would lie on the $z$-axis, contradicting the claim that it belongs to a circle. Point $P=(0,0,c)$ can lie on the cone even if $z$-axis is not a generatrix: just join $P$ with any point $Q$ on the guiding circle (different from the origin) and choose cone vertex at will on line $PQ$.
    $endgroup$
    – Aretino
    Jan 22 at 11:51










  • $begingroup$
    I think there is a misunderstanding. What i interpreted from the question is that we need to find vertex of hyperbola. Because P(0,0,c) is the fixed point so each generatrix must pass through it and therefore it is a vertex.
    $endgroup$
    – Sanchit Vijay
    Jan 23 at 6:03










  • $begingroup$
    The vertex of the hyperbola, as the hyperbola itself, lies on plane $y=0$, while the circle given as solution lies on a different plane. Hence I'm afraid your interpretation doesn't hold. In my opinion the locus is formed by the vertex of the cone.
    $endgroup$
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    Jan 23 at 13:39


















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Your equation for the cone cannot be right: it contains all the $z$-axis and not only point $(0,0,c)$.
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– Aretino
Jan 20 at 18:31




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Your equation for the cone cannot be right: it contains all the $z$-axis and not only point $(0,0,c)$.
$endgroup$
– Aretino
Jan 20 at 18:31












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@Aretino since z axis is also one of the generating line. As it passes through origin and (0,0,c). Therefore equation of cone contain all the z axis.
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– Sanchit Vijay
Jan 22 at 7:57






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@Aretino since z axis is also one of the generating line. As it passes through origin and (0,0,c). Therefore equation of cone contain all the z axis.
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It needn't be so: if the $z$-axis were a generatrix then the vertex of the cone would lie on the $z$-axis, contradicting the claim that it belongs to a circle. Point $P=(0,0,c)$ can lie on the cone even if $z$-axis is not a generatrix: just join $P$ with any point $Q$ on the guiding circle (different from the origin) and choose cone vertex at will on line $PQ$.
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– Aretino
Jan 22 at 11:51




$begingroup$
It needn't be so: if the $z$-axis were a generatrix then the vertex of the cone would lie on the $z$-axis, contradicting the claim that it belongs to a circle. Point $P=(0,0,c)$ can lie on the cone even if $z$-axis is not a generatrix: just join $P$ with any point $Q$ on the guiding circle (different from the origin) and choose cone vertex at will on line $PQ$.
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I think there is a misunderstanding. What i interpreted from the question is that we need to find vertex of hyperbola. Because P(0,0,c) is the fixed point so each generatrix must pass through it and therefore it is a vertex.
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– Sanchit Vijay
Jan 23 at 6:03




$begingroup$
I think there is a misunderstanding. What i interpreted from the question is that we need to find vertex of hyperbola. Because P(0,0,c) is the fixed point so each generatrix must pass through it and therefore it is a vertex.
$endgroup$
– Sanchit Vijay
Jan 23 at 6:03












$begingroup$
The vertex of the hyperbola, as the hyperbola itself, lies on plane $y=0$, while the circle given as solution lies on a different plane. Hence I'm afraid your interpretation doesn't hold. In my opinion the locus is formed by the vertex of the cone.
$endgroup$
– Aretino
Jan 23 at 13:39






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The vertex of the hyperbola, as the hyperbola itself, lies on plane $y=0$, while the circle given as solution lies on a different plane. Hence I'm afraid your interpretation doesn't hold. In my opinion the locus is formed by the vertex of the cone.
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Let $V=(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ be the vertex of the cone. The cone is composed of all lines passing through $V$ and a point of circle $gamma$ of equation $x^2+y^2+2ax+2by=0$ in the $xy$ plane; the equation of the cone is then:
$$
(z_0x-x_0z)^2+(z_0y-y_0z)^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)+2b(z_0y-y_0z)(z_0-z)=0.
$$

Intersecting this with plane $y=0$ gives the equation of a conic in the $xz$ plane:
$$
(z_0x-x_0z)^2+y_0^2z^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)-2by_0z(z_0-z)=0.
$$

This represents a rectangular hyperbola if the coefficients of $x^2$ and $z^2$ in that equation are opposite, which leads to the equation:
$$
tag{1}
x_0^2+y_0^2+z_0^2+2ax_0+2by_0=0.
$$

This is the equation of the sphere having $gamma$ as a great circle.



We know, on the other hand, that point $P=(0,0,c)$ lies on the cone, implying that $V$ belongs to the cone having $P$ as vertex and $gamma$ as guiding curve. Hence the coordinates of $V$ must satisfy the equation:
$$
tag{2}
cx_0^2+cy_0^2+2ax_0(c-z_0)+2by_0(c-z_0)=0.
$$

Combining equations $(1)$ and $(2)$ we obtain the equation of a plane, to which $V$ must then belong:
$$
tag{3}
2ax_0+2by_0+cz_0=0.
$$

Vertex $V$ must then lie on the intersection of sphere $(1)$ and plane $(3)$, which is exactly the circle we were required to find.



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    That the guiding curve is a circle implies that the axis of the cone is perpendicular to the plane of the circle (that is, the $xy$-plane, which we'll call "the horizontal") and passes through the circle's center, $(-a,-b,0)$.



    Also, it is "known" (and shown in this answer) that the eccentricity of a conic is given by
    $$e = frac{sin angle P}{sin angle C} tag{1}$$
    where $angle C$ and $angle P$ are the "cone angle" and "plane angle", the angles with the horizontal made by the cone's generator-lines and the cutting plane, respectively. Now, a rectangular hyperbola has eccentricity $sqrt{2}$, and the plane $y=0$ makes $angle P = 90^circ$ with the horizontal; we find, then, that $angle C = 45^circ$. Consequently, the height of the cone's vertex above (or below) the $xy$-plane must be equal to the guiding circle's radius, $sqrt{a^2+b^2}$.



    The vertex of the cone is thus
    $$V = (-a,-b,pmsqrt{a^2+b^2}) tag{2}$$
    which clearly satisfies the target equation
    $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 + 2 a x + 2 b y = 0 tag{3}$$
    for the sphere that has the guiding circle as a great circle.



    Note that we have not yet introduced the "fixed point" $C := (0,0,c)$. Since we have deduced the cone's vertex without this point, we find that $c$ is not actually a free parameter in this problem. Indeed, one readily sees that, because $overline{OV}$ and $overline{VC}$ are generators making $45^circ$ angles with the horizontal, $triangle OVC$ is an isosceles right triangle with apex $V$; necessarily, the $z$-coordinate of $C$ must be twice the $z$-coordinate of $V$: that is, $c = pm 2 sqrt{a^2+b^2}$. Thus, the target plane
    $$2 a x + 2 b y + c = 0 qquadtoqquad a x + b y pm z sqrt{a^2+b^2} = 0 tag{4}$$
    is easily seen to be satisfied by $V$. $square$






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      Let $V=(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ be the vertex of the cone. The cone is composed of all lines passing through $V$ and a point of circle $gamma$ of equation $x^2+y^2+2ax+2by=0$ in the $xy$ plane; the equation of the cone is then:
      $$
      (z_0x-x_0z)^2+(z_0y-y_0z)^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)+2b(z_0y-y_0z)(z_0-z)=0.
      $$

      Intersecting this with plane $y=0$ gives the equation of a conic in the $xz$ plane:
      $$
      (z_0x-x_0z)^2+y_0^2z^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)-2by_0z(z_0-z)=0.
      $$

      This represents a rectangular hyperbola if the coefficients of $x^2$ and $z^2$ in that equation are opposite, which leads to the equation:
      $$
      tag{1}
      x_0^2+y_0^2+z_0^2+2ax_0+2by_0=0.
      $$

      This is the equation of the sphere having $gamma$ as a great circle.



      We know, on the other hand, that point $P=(0,0,c)$ lies on the cone, implying that $V$ belongs to the cone having $P$ as vertex and $gamma$ as guiding curve. Hence the coordinates of $V$ must satisfy the equation:
      $$
      tag{2}
      cx_0^2+cy_0^2+2ax_0(c-z_0)+2by_0(c-z_0)=0.
      $$

      Combining equations $(1)$ and $(2)$ we obtain the equation of a plane, to which $V$ must then belong:
      $$
      tag{3}
      2ax_0+2by_0+cz_0=0.
      $$

      Vertex $V$ must then lie on the intersection of sphere $(1)$ and plane $(3)$, which is exactly the circle we were required to find.



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        Let $V=(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ be the vertex of the cone. The cone is composed of all lines passing through $V$ and a point of circle $gamma$ of equation $x^2+y^2+2ax+2by=0$ in the $xy$ plane; the equation of the cone is then:
        $$
        (z_0x-x_0z)^2+(z_0y-y_0z)^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)+2b(z_0y-y_0z)(z_0-z)=0.
        $$

        Intersecting this with plane $y=0$ gives the equation of a conic in the $xz$ plane:
        $$
        (z_0x-x_0z)^2+y_0^2z^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)-2by_0z(z_0-z)=0.
        $$

        This represents a rectangular hyperbola if the coefficients of $x^2$ and $z^2$ in that equation are opposite, which leads to the equation:
        $$
        tag{1}
        x_0^2+y_0^2+z_0^2+2ax_0+2by_0=0.
        $$

        This is the equation of the sphere having $gamma$ as a great circle.



        We know, on the other hand, that point $P=(0,0,c)$ lies on the cone, implying that $V$ belongs to the cone having $P$ as vertex and $gamma$ as guiding curve. Hence the coordinates of $V$ must satisfy the equation:
        $$
        tag{2}
        cx_0^2+cy_0^2+2ax_0(c-z_0)+2by_0(c-z_0)=0.
        $$

        Combining equations $(1)$ and $(2)$ we obtain the equation of a plane, to which $V$ must then belong:
        $$
        tag{3}
        2ax_0+2by_0+cz_0=0.
        $$

        Vertex $V$ must then lie on the intersection of sphere $(1)$ and plane $(3)$, which is exactly the circle we were required to find.



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          Let $V=(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ be the vertex of the cone. The cone is composed of all lines passing through $V$ and a point of circle $gamma$ of equation $x^2+y^2+2ax+2by=0$ in the $xy$ plane; the equation of the cone is then:
          $$
          (z_0x-x_0z)^2+(z_0y-y_0z)^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)+2b(z_0y-y_0z)(z_0-z)=0.
          $$

          Intersecting this with plane $y=0$ gives the equation of a conic in the $xz$ plane:
          $$
          (z_0x-x_0z)^2+y_0^2z^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)-2by_0z(z_0-z)=0.
          $$

          This represents a rectangular hyperbola if the coefficients of $x^2$ and $z^2$ in that equation are opposite, which leads to the equation:
          $$
          tag{1}
          x_0^2+y_0^2+z_0^2+2ax_0+2by_0=0.
          $$

          This is the equation of the sphere having $gamma$ as a great circle.



          We know, on the other hand, that point $P=(0,0,c)$ lies on the cone, implying that $V$ belongs to the cone having $P$ as vertex and $gamma$ as guiding curve. Hence the coordinates of $V$ must satisfy the equation:
          $$
          tag{2}
          cx_0^2+cy_0^2+2ax_0(c-z_0)+2by_0(c-z_0)=0.
          $$

          Combining equations $(1)$ and $(2)$ we obtain the equation of a plane, to which $V$ must then belong:
          $$
          tag{3}
          2ax_0+2by_0+cz_0=0.
          $$

          Vertex $V$ must then lie on the intersection of sphere $(1)$ and plane $(3)$, which is exactly the circle we were required to find.



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          Let $V=(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ be the vertex of the cone. The cone is composed of all lines passing through $V$ and a point of circle $gamma$ of equation $x^2+y^2+2ax+2by=0$ in the $xy$ plane; the equation of the cone is then:
          $$
          (z_0x-x_0z)^2+(z_0y-y_0z)^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)+2b(z_0y-y_0z)(z_0-z)=0.
          $$

          Intersecting this with plane $y=0$ gives the equation of a conic in the $xz$ plane:
          $$
          (z_0x-x_0z)^2+y_0^2z^2+2a(z_0x-x_0z)(z_0-z)-2by_0z(z_0-z)=0.
          $$

          This represents a rectangular hyperbola if the coefficients of $x^2$ and $z^2$ in that equation are opposite, which leads to the equation:
          $$
          tag{1}
          x_0^2+y_0^2+z_0^2+2ax_0+2by_0=0.
          $$

          This is the equation of the sphere having $gamma$ as a great circle.



          We know, on the other hand, that point $P=(0,0,c)$ lies on the cone, implying that $V$ belongs to the cone having $P$ as vertex and $gamma$ as guiding curve. Hence the coordinates of $V$ must satisfy the equation:
          $$
          tag{2}
          cx_0^2+cy_0^2+2ax_0(c-z_0)+2by_0(c-z_0)=0.
          $$

          Combining equations $(1)$ and $(2)$ we obtain the equation of a plane, to which $V$ must then belong:
          $$
          tag{3}
          2ax_0+2by_0+cz_0=0.
          $$

          Vertex $V$ must then lie on the intersection of sphere $(1)$ and plane $(3)$, which is exactly the circle we were required to find.



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              $begingroup$

              That the guiding curve is a circle implies that the axis of the cone is perpendicular to the plane of the circle (that is, the $xy$-plane, which we'll call "the horizontal") and passes through the circle's center, $(-a,-b,0)$.



              Also, it is "known" (and shown in this answer) that the eccentricity of a conic is given by
              $$e = frac{sin angle P}{sin angle C} tag{1}$$
              where $angle C$ and $angle P$ are the "cone angle" and "plane angle", the angles with the horizontal made by the cone's generator-lines and the cutting plane, respectively. Now, a rectangular hyperbola has eccentricity $sqrt{2}$, and the plane $y=0$ makes $angle P = 90^circ$ with the horizontal; we find, then, that $angle C = 45^circ$. Consequently, the height of the cone's vertex above (or below) the $xy$-plane must be equal to the guiding circle's radius, $sqrt{a^2+b^2}$.



              The vertex of the cone is thus
              $$V = (-a,-b,pmsqrt{a^2+b^2}) tag{2}$$
              which clearly satisfies the target equation
              $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 + 2 a x + 2 b y = 0 tag{3}$$
              for the sphere that has the guiding circle as a great circle.



              Note that we have not yet introduced the "fixed point" $C := (0,0,c)$. Since we have deduced the cone's vertex without this point, we find that $c$ is not actually a free parameter in this problem. Indeed, one readily sees that, because $overline{OV}$ and $overline{VC}$ are generators making $45^circ$ angles with the horizontal, $triangle OVC$ is an isosceles right triangle with apex $V$; necessarily, the $z$-coordinate of $C$ must be twice the $z$-coordinate of $V$: that is, $c = pm 2 sqrt{a^2+b^2}$. Thus, the target plane
              $$2 a x + 2 b y + c = 0 qquadtoqquad a x + b y pm z sqrt{a^2+b^2} = 0 tag{4}$$
              is easily seen to be satisfied by $V$. $square$






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                $begingroup$

                That the guiding curve is a circle implies that the axis of the cone is perpendicular to the plane of the circle (that is, the $xy$-plane, which we'll call "the horizontal") and passes through the circle's center, $(-a,-b,0)$.



                Also, it is "known" (and shown in this answer) that the eccentricity of a conic is given by
                $$e = frac{sin angle P}{sin angle C} tag{1}$$
                where $angle C$ and $angle P$ are the "cone angle" and "plane angle", the angles with the horizontal made by the cone's generator-lines and the cutting plane, respectively. Now, a rectangular hyperbola has eccentricity $sqrt{2}$, and the plane $y=0$ makes $angle P = 90^circ$ with the horizontal; we find, then, that $angle C = 45^circ$. Consequently, the height of the cone's vertex above (or below) the $xy$-plane must be equal to the guiding circle's radius, $sqrt{a^2+b^2}$.



                The vertex of the cone is thus
                $$V = (-a,-b,pmsqrt{a^2+b^2}) tag{2}$$
                which clearly satisfies the target equation
                $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 + 2 a x + 2 b y = 0 tag{3}$$
                for the sphere that has the guiding circle as a great circle.



                Note that we have not yet introduced the "fixed point" $C := (0,0,c)$. Since we have deduced the cone's vertex without this point, we find that $c$ is not actually a free parameter in this problem. Indeed, one readily sees that, because $overline{OV}$ and $overline{VC}$ are generators making $45^circ$ angles with the horizontal, $triangle OVC$ is an isosceles right triangle with apex $V$; necessarily, the $z$-coordinate of $C$ must be twice the $z$-coordinate of $V$: that is, $c = pm 2 sqrt{a^2+b^2}$. Thus, the target plane
                $$2 a x + 2 b y + c = 0 qquadtoqquad a x + b y pm z sqrt{a^2+b^2} = 0 tag{4}$$
                is easily seen to be satisfied by $V$. $square$






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                  $begingroup$

                  That the guiding curve is a circle implies that the axis of the cone is perpendicular to the plane of the circle (that is, the $xy$-plane, which we'll call "the horizontal") and passes through the circle's center, $(-a,-b,0)$.



                  Also, it is "known" (and shown in this answer) that the eccentricity of a conic is given by
                  $$e = frac{sin angle P}{sin angle C} tag{1}$$
                  where $angle C$ and $angle P$ are the "cone angle" and "plane angle", the angles with the horizontal made by the cone's generator-lines and the cutting plane, respectively. Now, a rectangular hyperbola has eccentricity $sqrt{2}$, and the plane $y=0$ makes $angle P = 90^circ$ with the horizontal; we find, then, that $angle C = 45^circ$. Consequently, the height of the cone's vertex above (or below) the $xy$-plane must be equal to the guiding circle's radius, $sqrt{a^2+b^2}$.



                  The vertex of the cone is thus
                  $$V = (-a,-b,pmsqrt{a^2+b^2}) tag{2}$$
                  which clearly satisfies the target equation
                  $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 + 2 a x + 2 b y = 0 tag{3}$$
                  for the sphere that has the guiding circle as a great circle.



                  Note that we have not yet introduced the "fixed point" $C := (0,0,c)$. Since we have deduced the cone's vertex without this point, we find that $c$ is not actually a free parameter in this problem. Indeed, one readily sees that, because $overline{OV}$ and $overline{VC}$ are generators making $45^circ$ angles with the horizontal, $triangle OVC$ is an isosceles right triangle with apex $V$; necessarily, the $z$-coordinate of $C$ must be twice the $z$-coordinate of $V$: that is, $c = pm 2 sqrt{a^2+b^2}$. Thus, the target plane
                  $$2 a x + 2 b y + c = 0 qquadtoqquad a x + b y pm z sqrt{a^2+b^2} = 0 tag{4}$$
                  is easily seen to be satisfied by $V$. $square$






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                  $endgroup$



                  That the guiding curve is a circle implies that the axis of the cone is perpendicular to the plane of the circle (that is, the $xy$-plane, which we'll call "the horizontal") and passes through the circle's center, $(-a,-b,0)$.



                  Also, it is "known" (and shown in this answer) that the eccentricity of a conic is given by
                  $$e = frac{sin angle P}{sin angle C} tag{1}$$
                  where $angle C$ and $angle P$ are the "cone angle" and "plane angle", the angles with the horizontal made by the cone's generator-lines and the cutting plane, respectively. Now, a rectangular hyperbola has eccentricity $sqrt{2}$, and the plane $y=0$ makes $angle P = 90^circ$ with the horizontal; we find, then, that $angle C = 45^circ$. Consequently, the height of the cone's vertex above (or below) the $xy$-plane must be equal to the guiding circle's radius, $sqrt{a^2+b^2}$.



                  The vertex of the cone is thus
                  $$V = (-a,-b,pmsqrt{a^2+b^2}) tag{2}$$
                  which clearly satisfies the target equation
                  $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 + 2 a x + 2 b y = 0 tag{3}$$
                  for the sphere that has the guiding circle as a great circle.



                  Note that we have not yet introduced the "fixed point" $C := (0,0,c)$. Since we have deduced the cone's vertex without this point, we find that $c$ is not actually a free parameter in this problem. Indeed, one readily sees that, because $overline{OV}$ and $overline{VC}$ are generators making $45^circ$ angles with the horizontal, $triangle OVC$ is an isosceles right triangle with apex $V$; necessarily, the $z$-coordinate of $C$ must be twice the $z$-coordinate of $V$: that is, $c = pm 2 sqrt{a^2+b^2}$. Thus, the target plane
                  $$2 a x + 2 b y + c = 0 qquadtoqquad a x + b y pm z sqrt{a^2+b^2} = 0 tag{4}$$
                  is easily seen to be satisfied by $V$. $square$







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                  answered Jan 23 at 21:47









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