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I was wondering why can't it be countably infinite? Since $mathbb{Z} sim mathbb{N} sim mathbb{Z}+ rightarrow mathbb{Z}+ sim mathbb{Z}$, $mathbb{Z}$ is countably infinite hence $mathbb{Z}$ is equivalent to its proper subset but Z is countably infinite.. Please correct me where I am getting it wrong










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I was wondering why can't it be countably infinite? Since $mathbb{Z} sim mathbb{N} sim mathbb{Z}+ rightarrow mathbb{Z}+ sim mathbb{Z}$, $mathbb{Z}$ is countably infinite hence $mathbb{Z}$ is equivalent to its proper subset but Z is countably infinite.. Please correct me where I am getting it wrong










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Countably infinite is infinite.
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Countably infinite is infinite.
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