Obtaining derivatives for the moments of random variables












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I am currently working through a problem and am having trouble interpreting my results.



I start with a system whose dynamics are described by the equation:
$$
frac{dC}{dt} = f(C(t),theta)
$$



where $theta$ is a random variable independent of time meaning $C(t)$ too becomes a random variable. We can write the equation for the change in the first moment $E[C(t)]$ as:
$$
frac{dE[C(t)]}{dt} = frac{d}{dt}int p_C(C(t)) C(t) dC
$$

where $p_C(C)$ is the probability distribution function for C. Recalling that
$$
E[g(x)] = int g(x) p_x(x) dx
$$



and rearanging the first equation
$$
g(theta) = C(t) = int f(C(t),theta) dt
$$



we can combine to get
begin{align}
frac{dE[C(t)]}{dt} &= frac{d}{dt}int p_{theta}(theta) g(theta) dtheta \
&= frac{d}{dt}int p_{theta}(theta) int f(C(t),theta) dt dtheta \
&= int p_{theta}(theta)f(C(t),theta) dtheta \
&= E[f(C(t),theta)]
end{align}



I am wondering




  1. Is the working correct?

  2. How to interpret the final result. This expectation does not include the variance in $C(t)$ but does this matter? What does this mean if we take a simple form (i.e. $f(C(t),theta) = theta C(t) - C(t)^2$)?










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    I am currently working through a problem and am having trouble interpreting my results.



    I start with a system whose dynamics are described by the equation:
    $$
    frac{dC}{dt} = f(C(t),theta)
    $$



    where $theta$ is a random variable independent of time meaning $C(t)$ too becomes a random variable. We can write the equation for the change in the first moment $E[C(t)]$ as:
    $$
    frac{dE[C(t)]}{dt} = frac{d}{dt}int p_C(C(t)) C(t) dC
    $$

    where $p_C(C)$ is the probability distribution function for C. Recalling that
    $$
    E[g(x)] = int g(x) p_x(x) dx
    $$



    and rearanging the first equation
    $$
    g(theta) = C(t) = int f(C(t),theta) dt
    $$



    we can combine to get
    begin{align}
    frac{dE[C(t)]}{dt} &= frac{d}{dt}int p_{theta}(theta) g(theta) dtheta \
    &= frac{d}{dt}int p_{theta}(theta) int f(C(t),theta) dt dtheta \
    &= int p_{theta}(theta)f(C(t),theta) dtheta \
    &= E[f(C(t),theta)]
    end{align}



    I am wondering




    1. Is the working correct?

    2. How to interpret the final result. This expectation does not include the variance in $C(t)$ but does this matter? What does this mean if we take a simple form (i.e. $f(C(t),theta) = theta C(t) - C(t)^2$)?










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      I am currently working through a problem and am having trouble interpreting my results.



      I start with a system whose dynamics are described by the equation:
      $$
      frac{dC}{dt} = f(C(t),theta)
      $$



      where $theta$ is a random variable independent of time meaning $C(t)$ too becomes a random variable. We can write the equation for the change in the first moment $E[C(t)]$ as:
      $$
      frac{dE[C(t)]}{dt} = frac{d}{dt}int p_C(C(t)) C(t) dC
      $$

      where $p_C(C)$ is the probability distribution function for C. Recalling that
      $$
      E[g(x)] = int g(x) p_x(x) dx
      $$



      and rearanging the first equation
      $$
      g(theta) = C(t) = int f(C(t),theta) dt
      $$



      we can combine to get
      begin{align}
      frac{dE[C(t)]}{dt} &= frac{d}{dt}int p_{theta}(theta) g(theta) dtheta \
      &= frac{d}{dt}int p_{theta}(theta) int f(C(t),theta) dt dtheta \
      &= int p_{theta}(theta)f(C(t),theta) dtheta \
      &= E[f(C(t),theta)]
      end{align}



      I am wondering




      1. Is the working correct?

      2. How to interpret the final result. This expectation does not include the variance in $C(t)$ but does this matter? What does this mean if we take a simple form (i.e. $f(C(t),theta) = theta C(t) - C(t)^2$)?










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      I am currently working through a problem and am having trouble interpreting my results.



      I start with a system whose dynamics are described by the equation:
      $$
      frac{dC}{dt} = f(C(t),theta)
      $$



      where $theta$ is a random variable independent of time meaning $C(t)$ too becomes a random variable. We can write the equation for the change in the first moment $E[C(t)]$ as:
      $$
      frac{dE[C(t)]}{dt} = frac{d}{dt}int p_C(C(t)) C(t) dC
      $$

      where $p_C(C)$ is the probability distribution function for C. Recalling that
      $$
      E[g(x)] = int g(x) p_x(x) dx
      $$



      and rearanging the first equation
      $$
      g(theta) = C(t) = int f(C(t),theta) dt
      $$



      we can combine to get
      begin{align}
      frac{dE[C(t)]}{dt} &= frac{d}{dt}int p_{theta}(theta) g(theta) dtheta \
      &= frac{d}{dt}int p_{theta}(theta) int f(C(t),theta) dt dtheta \
      &= int p_{theta}(theta)f(C(t),theta) dtheta \
      &= E[f(C(t),theta)]
      end{align}



      I am wondering




      1. Is the working correct?

      2. How to interpret the final result. This expectation does not include the variance in $C(t)$ but does this matter? What does this mean if we take a simple form (i.e. $f(C(t),theta) = theta C(t) - C(t)^2$)?







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