Volume of image of closed rectangle in $mathbb{R}^n$ under linear transformation












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I am trying to solve the following problem:



Spivak - Calculus On Manifolds



I believe I have done part (a). For $g_1$, and $g_3$(the first and third transformation shown in the image), it is easy to see that the image, $g_i(U)$ for $i = 1,3$ remains a closed rectangle, and so not much additional work needs to be done.



For $g_2$, here is my "proof" (assuming it works):
If $U$ $=$ $times_{i=1}^n[a_i,b_i]$, and $j<k$ then the integral we want to evaluate becomes:



$int_{g_2(U)} 1$ =
$int_{a_1}^{b_1} ..int_{x_j+a_k}^{x_j+b_k}..int_{a_n}^{b+n} 1 dx_n...dx_1$ $ = |U|$ by Fubini's theorem (proven earlier in the book).
Since the determinant of $g_2$ is one, we are done.



Alternatively one can see that this holds in $mathbb{R^2}$ and $mathbb{R^3}$ geometrically, as the transformation turns rectangles into parallelograms, and I suppose this argument can be generalized to $mathbb{R}^n$, but I was keen on sticking to using an integral to prove all this.



My question is, how can we proceed to do (b)?



If $g_2$ didn't change our rectangles into parallelograms, (that is, if $g_2(U)$ was not a parallelogram, rather than a rectangle) we could iteratively apply (a) and the multiplicativity of the determinant to solve our problem, but given $g_2$ modifies the shape of our rectangle, we need to try something else. (We can't just use spivak's hint and repeatedly apply (a) in this case!!)



It would be greatly appreciated if someone could elucidate how (b) could be solved, I have thought about using the following line of reasoning:



$g_2$ gives us a parallelogram from a rectangle, which can be decomposed into a closed rectangle and two congruent triangles (which together "form" a rectangle), now we have two rectangles, and we can keep applying (a). But this isn't precise, if someone could either help make this precise or provide a full solution themselves that would be fantastic. If the solution could only use things proven in Spivak (before partitions of unity, chapter 3) that would be even better. So far he has proved the inverse/implicit function and rank theorems, provided a criterion for Riemann integrability of functions over closed rectangles and arbitrary Jordan measurable sets, provided a definition of a Jordan measurable set and the notions of almost everywhere in the form of "content" 0 and "measure" 0 (which turns out to coincide with the Lebesgue measure).



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I am trying to solve the following problem:



Spivak - Calculus On Manifolds



I believe I have done part (a). For $g_1$, and $g_3$(the first and third transformation shown in the image), it is easy to see that the image, $g_i(U)$ for $i = 1,3$ remains a closed rectangle, and so not much additional work needs to be done.



For $g_2$, here is my "proof" (assuming it works):
If $U$ $=$ $times_{i=1}^n[a_i,b_i]$, and $j<k$ then the integral we want to evaluate becomes:



$int_{g_2(U)} 1$ =
$int_{a_1}^{b_1} ..int_{x_j+a_k}^{x_j+b_k}..int_{a_n}^{b+n} 1 dx_n...dx_1$ $ = |U|$ by Fubini's theorem (proven earlier in the book).
Since the determinant of $g_2$ is one, we are done.



Alternatively one can see that this holds in $mathbb{R^2}$ and $mathbb{R^3}$ geometrically, as the transformation turns rectangles into parallelograms, and I suppose this argument can be generalized to $mathbb{R}^n$, but I was keen on sticking to using an integral to prove all this.



My question is, how can we proceed to do (b)?



If $g_2$ didn't change our rectangles into parallelograms, (that is, if $g_2(U)$ was not a parallelogram, rather than a rectangle) we could iteratively apply (a) and the multiplicativity of the determinant to solve our problem, but given $g_2$ modifies the shape of our rectangle, we need to try something else. (We can't just use spivak's hint and repeatedly apply (a) in this case!!)



It would be greatly appreciated if someone could elucidate how (b) could be solved, I have thought about using the following line of reasoning:



$g_2$ gives us a parallelogram from a rectangle, which can be decomposed into a closed rectangle and two congruent triangles (which together "form" a rectangle), now we have two rectangles, and we can keep applying (a). But this isn't precise, if someone could either help make this precise or provide a full solution themselves that would be fantastic. If the solution could only use things proven in Spivak (before partitions of unity, chapter 3) that would be even better. So far he has proved the inverse/implicit function and rank theorems, provided a criterion for Riemann integrability of functions over closed rectangles and arbitrary Jordan measurable sets, provided a definition of a Jordan measurable set and the notions of almost everywhere in the form of "content" 0 and "measure" 0 (which turns out to coincide with the Lebesgue measure).



Thank you for reading.










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    Hmm. Spivak, Calculus on Manifolds, right?
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I am trying to solve the following problem:



Spivak - Calculus On Manifolds



I believe I have done part (a). For $g_1$, and $g_3$(the first and third transformation shown in the image), it is easy to see that the image, $g_i(U)$ for $i = 1,3$ remains a closed rectangle, and so not much additional work needs to be done.



For $g_2$, here is my "proof" (assuming it works):
If $U$ $=$ $times_{i=1}^n[a_i,b_i]$, and $j<k$ then the integral we want to evaluate becomes:



$int_{g_2(U)} 1$ =
$int_{a_1}^{b_1} ..int_{x_j+a_k}^{x_j+b_k}..int_{a_n}^{b+n} 1 dx_n...dx_1$ $ = |U|$ by Fubini's theorem (proven earlier in the book).
Since the determinant of $g_2$ is one, we are done.



Alternatively one can see that this holds in $mathbb{R^2}$ and $mathbb{R^3}$ geometrically, as the transformation turns rectangles into parallelograms, and I suppose this argument can be generalized to $mathbb{R}^n$, but I was keen on sticking to using an integral to prove all this.



My question is, how can we proceed to do (b)?



If $g_2$ didn't change our rectangles into parallelograms, (that is, if $g_2(U)$ was not a parallelogram, rather than a rectangle) we could iteratively apply (a) and the multiplicativity of the determinant to solve our problem, but given $g_2$ modifies the shape of our rectangle, we need to try something else. (We can't just use spivak's hint and repeatedly apply (a) in this case!!)



It would be greatly appreciated if someone could elucidate how (b) could be solved, I have thought about using the following line of reasoning:



$g_2$ gives us a parallelogram from a rectangle, which can be decomposed into a closed rectangle and two congruent triangles (which together "form" a rectangle), now we have two rectangles, and we can keep applying (a). But this isn't precise, if someone could either help make this precise or provide a full solution themselves that would be fantastic. If the solution could only use things proven in Spivak (before partitions of unity, chapter 3) that would be even better. So far he has proved the inverse/implicit function and rank theorems, provided a criterion for Riemann integrability of functions over closed rectangles and arbitrary Jordan measurable sets, provided a definition of a Jordan measurable set and the notions of almost everywhere in the form of "content" 0 and "measure" 0 (which turns out to coincide with the Lebesgue measure).



Thank you for reading.










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I am trying to solve the following problem:



Spivak - Calculus On Manifolds



I believe I have done part (a). For $g_1$, and $g_3$(the first and third transformation shown in the image), it is easy to see that the image, $g_i(U)$ for $i = 1,3$ remains a closed rectangle, and so not much additional work needs to be done.



For $g_2$, here is my "proof" (assuming it works):
If $U$ $=$ $times_{i=1}^n[a_i,b_i]$, and $j<k$ then the integral we want to evaluate becomes:



$int_{g_2(U)} 1$ =
$int_{a_1}^{b_1} ..int_{x_j+a_k}^{x_j+b_k}..int_{a_n}^{b+n} 1 dx_n...dx_1$ $ = |U|$ by Fubini's theorem (proven earlier in the book).
Since the determinant of $g_2$ is one, we are done.



Alternatively one can see that this holds in $mathbb{R^2}$ and $mathbb{R^3}$ geometrically, as the transformation turns rectangles into parallelograms, and I suppose this argument can be generalized to $mathbb{R}^n$, but I was keen on sticking to using an integral to prove all this.



My question is, how can we proceed to do (b)?



If $g_2$ didn't change our rectangles into parallelograms, (that is, if $g_2(U)$ was not a parallelogram, rather than a rectangle) we could iteratively apply (a) and the multiplicativity of the determinant to solve our problem, but given $g_2$ modifies the shape of our rectangle, we need to try something else. (We can't just use spivak's hint and repeatedly apply (a) in this case!!)



It would be greatly appreciated if someone could elucidate how (b) could be solved, I have thought about using the following line of reasoning:



$g_2$ gives us a parallelogram from a rectangle, which can be decomposed into a closed rectangle and two congruent triangles (which together "form" a rectangle), now we have two rectangles, and we can keep applying (a). But this isn't precise, if someone could either help make this precise or provide a full solution themselves that would be fantastic. If the solution could only use things proven in Spivak (before partitions of unity, chapter 3) that would be even better. So far he has proved the inverse/implicit function and rank theorems, provided a criterion for Riemann integrability of functions over closed rectangles and arbitrary Jordan measurable sets, provided a definition of a Jordan measurable set and the notions of almost everywhere in the form of "content" 0 and "measure" 0 (which turns out to coincide with the Lebesgue measure).



Thank you for reading.







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    Hmm. Spivak, Calculus on Manifolds, right?
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Hmm. Spivak, Calculus on Manifolds, right?
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This is a serious hint, one that can be reduced to saying "You should read the hint given in the problem itself; Spivak his helping you out here!"




  1. You know from the hint that $g$ can be written
    $$
    g = h_1 circ h_2 circ h_3 circ cdots circ h_k
    $$

    where each $h_i$ is a linear transformation of the form given.


  2. You know that if $g = p circ q$, and all are linear transformation on $Bbb R^n$, then $det g = (det p) cdot (det q)$, right?


  3. You know that for each $h_i$, you have the volume of $h_i(U)$ is $|det h_i|$ times the volume of $U$.



What do you get when you combine these three facts to attempt to compute the volume of $g(U)$ for some rectangle $U$?



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As OP points out, I really set about answering the wrong question. The real question was, in essence, "Why is it that when $h$ and $g$ both transform a rectangle to a parallelogram, that $h circ g$ does as well?"



First of all, I want to concentrate on parallelograms with one vertex at the origin. Suppose that $E$ is a parallelogram with one vertex at $P$. Then $E' = E-P$ (i.e., subtract $P$ from every point in $E$ to get a new set $E'$) is a parallelogram with one vertex at the origin. And if $T$ is a linear transformation, and $Q in E$, we can write
$$
T(Q) = T(Q-P) + T(P)
$$

by linearity. So
begin{align}
{T(Q) mid Q in E }
&= {T(Q-P) + T(P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(Q-P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(S) mid S in E' }
end{align}

In short, we can understand how $T$ transforms the set $E$ by looking at how it transforms $E'$, and then adding a constant vector $T(P)$ to the result. Thus I've reduced the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms to parallelograms" to the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin," where "at the origin" means "with one vertex being the origin."



The next problem is to figure out what exactly is a parallelogram at the origin. By looking at the 2D and 3D cases, we can observe that in $Bbb R^n$, there will be $n$ edges of the parallelogram leaving the origin (or any other vertex for that matter). Let's call the vectors from the origin to the remote ends of those edges $v_1, ldots, v_n$, OK?



Now you have to think a little, and realize that once you have, for some parallelogram $S$ (just to give it a name) those $n$ vectors, the set of all points in $S$ is exactly the set of linear combinations
$$
c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n
$$

where $0 le c_i le 1$ for all $i = 1, ldots, n$. In fact, let's give that set a name. I'm going to define
$$
Y(v_1, v_2, ldots, v_n) =
{c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}.
$$



I'm going to hope that you believe those last two claims (namely that $n$ edges meet at the origin, and that linear combinations of those, with $0$-to-$1$ coefficients, constitute the entire parallelogram), but if you don't, by all means tell me. There's one last bit: I also claim that not only can every parallelogram at the origin be described this way, but every set described this way is also a parallelogram. (Interesting things happen when the vectors are linearly dependent, so this isn't completely trivial. As a first step, it requires a really clear definition of "parallelogram"!)



Now what I have to do is to show you what happens when I linearly transform one such set, I get another; then I'll have shown that linear transformations take parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin (and hence that they take parallelograms anywhere to other parallelograms), so that you really can do part "b" of the problem just as Spivak asks.



So: let's look at a linear transformation $T$, applied to the set $Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)$. We get
begin{align}
&T(Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)) \
&= Tleft( {c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}right)\
&= {T(c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}\
&= {T(c_1v_1) + T(c_2 v_2) + ldots + T(c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity}\
&= {c_1T(v_1) + c_2T( v_2) + ldots + c_nT( v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity again}\
&= {c_1 w_1 + c_2 w_2 + ldots + c_n w_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{where $w_i = T(v_i)$ for each $i$}\
&= Y(w_1, ldots, w_n).
end{align}

So the parallelogram generated by the $v$ vectors has become a parallelogram generated by the $w$ vectors, where each $w_i$ is just $T(v_i)$.



And I think that's the end of the story.






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    I am sorry, but I do not think I made myself clear enough in my question. I am well aware of this hint, and I am well aware you are intended to stitch this hint together with the fact that determinant is multiplicative to get (b). I am saying it is not that simple, as the $h_i$'s in your answer can modify the shape of $U$, and part (a) only holds for $U$ rectangular. This was the crux of my original question.
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    No...you were clear. I was just too hasty in my reading. I'll add more to my answer shortly.
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    Apologies if I've misunderstood, but what you've shown so far is that linear transformations take parallelograms (as you've described) to parallelograms, but part (a) is only valid for rectangles, which is the specific case of a parallelogram where the vectors generating the parallelogram are orthogonal. So I don't think this is quite enough to use part (a) and prove part (b). One has to show that even though $g_2$ takes rectangles to parallelograms (where the parallelograms edges may NOT be orthogonal), we can still apply part (a).
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    To add to the comment above, a method one could use to show this, is that if one proves (a) for $U$ a parallelogram at the origin generated by $n$ linearly independent vectors in $mathbb{R}^n$, then we can prove part (b) easily (as a rectangle is a special case of a parallelogram as you have defined where the generating vectors are orthogonal)
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A serious hint, not a solution.



This is a serious hint, one that can be reduced to saying "You should read the hint given in the problem itself; Spivak his helping you out here!"




  1. You know from the hint that $g$ can be written
    $$
    g = h_1 circ h_2 circ h_3 circ cdots circ h_k
    $$

    where each $h_i$ is a linear transformation of the form given.


  2. You know that if $g = p circ q$, and all are linear transformation on $Bbb R^n$, then $det g = (det p) cdot (det q)$, right?


  3. You know that for each $h_i$, you have the volume of $h_i(U)$ is $|det h_i|$ times the volume of $U$.



What do you get when you combine these three facts to attempt to compute the volume of $g(U)$ for some rectangle $U$?



Post-comment addition



As OP points out, I really set about answering the wrong question. The real question was, in essence, "Why is it that when $h$ and $g$ both transform a rectangle to a parallelogram, that $h circ g$ does as well?"



First of all, I want to concentrate on parallelograms with one vertex at the origin. Suppose that $E$ is a parallelogram with one vertex at $P$. Then $E' = E-P$ (i.e., subtract $P$ from every point in $E$ to get a new set $E'$) is a parallelogram with one vertex at the origin. And if $T$ is a linear transformation, and $Q in E$, we can write
$$
T(Q) = T(Q-P) + T(P)
$$

by linearity. So
begin{align}
{T(Q) mid Q in E }
&= {T(Q-P) + T(P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(Q-P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(S) mid S in E' }
end{align}

In short, we can understand how $T$ transforms the set $E$ by looking at how it transforms $E'$, and then adding a constant vector $T(P)$ to the result. Thus I've reduced the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms to parallelograms" to the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin," where "at the origin" means "with one vertex being the origin."



The next problem is to figure out what exactly is a parallelogram at the origin. By looking at the 2D and 3D cases, we can observe that in $Bbb R^n$, there will be $n$ edges of the parallelogram leaving the origin (or any other vertex for that matter). Let's call the vectors from the origin to the remote ends of those edges $v_1, ldots, v_n$, OK?



Now you have to think a little, and realize that once you have, for some parallelogram $S$ (just to give it a name) those $n$ vectors, the set of all points in $S$ is exactly the set of linear combinations
$$
c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n
$$

where $0 le c_i le 1$ for all $i = 1, ldots, n$. In fact, let's give that set a name. I'm going to define
$$
Y(v_1, v_2, ldots, v_n) =
{c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}.
$$



I'm going to hope that you believe those last two claims (namely that $n$ edges meet at the origin, and that linear combinations of those, with $0$-to-$1$ coefficients, constitute the entire parallelogram), but if you don't, by all means tell me. There's one last bit: I also claim that not only can every parallelogram at the origin be described this way, but every set described this way is also a parallelogram. (Interesting things happen when the vectors are linearly dependent, so this isn't completely trivial. As a first step, it requires a really clear definition of "parallelogram"!)



Now what I have to do is to show you what happens when I linearly transform one such set, I get another; then I'll have shown that linear transformations take parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin (and hence that they take parallelograms anywhere to other parallelograms), so that you really can do part "b" of the problem just as Spivak asks.



So: let's look at a linear transformation $T$, applied to the set $Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)$. We get
begin{align}
&T(Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)) \
&= Tleft( {c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}right)\
&= {T(c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}\
&= {T(c_1v_1) + T(c_2 v_2) + ldots + T(c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity}\
&= {c_1T(v_1) + c_2T( v_2) + ldots + c_nT( v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity again}\
&= {c_1 w_1 + c_2 w_2 + ldots + c_n w_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{where $w_i = T(v_i)$ for each $i$}\
&= Y(w_1, ldots, w_n).
end{align}

So the parallelogram generated by the $v$ vectors has become a parallelogram generated by the $w$ vectors, where each $w_i$ is just $T(v_i)$.



And I think that's the end of the story.






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    I am sorry, but I do not think I made myself clear enough in my question. I am well aware of this hint, and I am well aware you are intended to stitch this hint together with the fact that determinant is multiplicative to get (b). I am saying it is not that simple, as the $h_i$'s in your answer can modify the shape of $U$, and part (a) only holds for $U$ rectangular. This was the crux of my original question.
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    No...you were clear. I was just too hasty in my reading. I'll add more to my answer shortly.
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    Jan 23 at 17:27










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    See post-comment addition.
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    Apologies if I've misunderstood, but what you've shown so far is that linear transformations take parallelograms (as you've described) to parallelograms, but part (a) is only valid for rectangles, which is the specific case of a parallelogram where the vectors generating the parallelogram are orthogonal. So I don't think this is quite enough to use part (a) and prove part (b). One has to show that even though $g_2$ takes rectangles to parallelograms (where the parallelograms edges may NOT be orthogonal), we can still apply part (a).
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    To add to the comment above, a method one could use to show this, is that if one proves (a) for $U$ a parallelogram at the origin generated by $n$ linearly independent vectors in $mathbb{R}^n$, then we can prove part (b) easily (as a rectangle is a special case of a parallelogram as you have defined where the generating vectors are orthogonal)
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A serious hint, not a solution.



This is a serious hint, one that can be reduced to saying "You should read the hint given in the problem itself; Spivak his helping you out here!"




  1. You know from the hint that $g$ can be written
    $$
    g = h_1 circ h_2 circ h_3 circ cdots circ h_k
    $$

    where each $h_i$ is a linear transformation of the form given.


  2. You know that if $g = p circ q$, and all are linear transformation on $Bbb R^n$, then $det g = (det p) cdot (det q)$, right?


  3. You know that for each $h_i$, you have the volume of $h_i(U)$ is $|det h_i|$ times the volume of $U$.



What do you get when you combine these three facts to attempt to compute the volume of $g(U)$ for some rectangle $U$?



Post-comment addition



As OP points out, I really set about answering the wrong question. The real question was, in essence, "Why is it that when $h$ and $g$ both transform a rectangle to a parallelogram, that $h circ g$ does as well?"



First of all, I want to concentrate on parallelograms with one vertex at the origin. Suppose that $E$ is a parallelogram with one vertex at $P$. Then $E' = E-P$ (i.e., subtract $P$ from every point in $E$ to get a new set $E'$) is a parallelogram with one vertex at the origin. And if $T$ is a linear transformation, and $Q in E$, we can write
$$
T(Q) = T(Q-P) + T(P)
$$

by linearity. So
begin{align}
{T(Q) mid Q in E }
&= {T(Q-P) + T(P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(Q-P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(S) mid S in E' }
end{align}

In short, we can understand how $T$ transforms the set $E$ by looking at how it transforms $E'$, and then adding a constant vector $T(P)$ to the result. Thus I've reduced the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms to parallelograms" to the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin," where "at the origin" means "with one vertex being the origin."



The next problem is to figure out what exactly is a parallelogram at the origin. By looking at the 2D and 3D cases, we can observe that in $Bbb R^n$, there will be $n$ edges of the parallelogram leaving the origin (or any other vertex for that matter). Let's call the vectors from the origin to the remote ends of those edges $v_1, ldots, v_n$, OK?



Now you have to think a little, and realize that once you have, for some parallelogram $S$ (just to give it a name) those $n$ vectors, the set of all points in $S$ is exactly the set of linear combinations
$$
c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n
$$

where $0 le c_i le 1$ for all $i = 1, ldots, n$. In fact, let's give that set a name. I'm going to define
$$
Y(v_1, v_2, ldots, v_n) =
{c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}.
$$



I'm going to hope that you believe those last two claims (namely that $n$ edges meet at the origin, and that linear combinations of those, with $0$-to-$1$ coefficients, constitute the entire parallelogram), but if you don't, by all means tell me. There's one last bit: I also claim that not only can every parallelogram at the origin be described this way, but every set described this way is also a parallelogram. (Interesting things happen when the vectors are linearly dependent, so this isn't completely trivial. As a first step, it requires a really clear definition of "parallelogram"!)



Now what I have to do is to show you what happens when I linearly transform one such set, I get another; then I'll have shown that linear transformations take parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin (and hence that they take parallelograms anywhere to other parallelograms), so that you really can do part "b" of the problem just as Spivak asks.



So: let's look at a linear transformation $T$, applied to the set $Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)$. We get
begin{align}
&T(Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)) \
&= Tleft( {c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}right)\
&= {T(c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}\
&= {T(c_1v_1) + T(c_2 v_2) + ldots + T(c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity}\
&= {c_1T(v_1) + c_2T( v_2) + ldots + c_nT( v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity again}\
&= {c_1 w_1 + c_2 w_2 + ldots + c_n w_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{where $w_i = T(v_i)$ for each $i$}\
&= Y(w_1, ldots, w_n).
end{align}

So the parallelogram generated by the $v$ vectors has become a parallelogram generated by the $w$ vectors, where each $w_i$ is just $T(v_i)$.



And I think that's the end of the story.






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    I am sorry, but I do not think I made myself clear enough in my question. I am well aware of this hint, and I am well aware you are intended to stitch this hint together with the fact that determinant is multiplicative to get (b). I am saying it is not that simple, as the $h_i$'s in your answer can modify the shape of $U$, and part (a) only holds for $U$ rectangular. This was the crux of my original question.
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    No...you were clear. I was just too hasty in my reading. I'll add more to my answer shortly.
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    Jan 23 at 17:27










  • $begingroup$
    See post-comment addition.
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    – John Hughes
    Jan 23 at 17:53










  • $begingroup$
    Apologies if I've misunderstood, but what you've shown so far is that linear transformations take parallelograms (as you've described) to parallelograms, but part (a) is only valid for rectangles, which is the specific case of a parallelogram where the vectors generating the parallelogram are orthogonal. So I don't think this is quite enough to use part (a) and prove part (b). One has to show that even though $g_2$ takes rectangles to parallelograms (where the parallelograms edges may NOT be orthogonal), we can still apply part (a).
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    – Aneesh
    Jan 23 at 18:07










  • $begingroup$
    To add to the comment above, a method one could use to show this, is that if one proves (a) for $U$ a parallelogram at the origin generated by $n$ linearly independent vectors in $mathbb{R}^n$, then we can prove part (b) easily (as a rectangle is a special case of a parallelogram as you have defined where the generating vectors are orthogonal)
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    Jan 23 at 18:09
















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$begingroup$

A serious hint, not a solution.



This is a serious hint, one that can be reduced to saying "You should read the hint given in the problem itself; Spivak his helping you out here!"




  1. You know from the hint that $g$ can be written
    $$
    g = h_1 circ h_2 circ h_3 circ cdots circ h_k
    $$

    where each $h_i$ is a linear transformation of the form given.


  2. You know that if $g = p circ q$, and all are linear transformation on $Bbb R^n$, then $det g = (det p) cdot (det q)$, right?


  3. You know that for each $h_i$, you have the volume of $h_i(U)$ is $|det h_i|$ times the volume of $U$.



What do you get when you combine these three facts to attempt to compute the volume of $g(U)$ for some rectangle $U$?



Post-comment addition



As OP points out, I really set about answering the wrong question. The real question was, in essence, "Why is it that when $h$ and $g$ both transform a rectangle to a parallelogram, that $h circ g$ does as well?"



First of all, I want to concentrate on parallelograms with one vertex at the origin. Suppose that $E$ is a parallelogram with one vertex at $P$. Then $E' = E-P$ (i.e., subtract $P$ from every point in $E$ to get a new set $E'$) is a parallelogram with one vertex at the origin. And if $T$ is a linear transformation, and $Q in E$, we can write
$$
T(Q) = T(Q-P) + T(P)
$$

by linearity. So
begin{align}
{T(Q) mid Q in E }
&= {T(Q-P) + T(P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(Q-P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(S) mid S in E' }
end{align}

In short, we can understand how $T$ transforms the set $E$ by looking at how it transforms $E'$, and then adding a constant vector $T(P)$ to the result. Thus I've reduced the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms to parallelograms" to the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin," where "at the origin" means "with one vertex being the origin."



The next problem is to figure out what exactly is a parallelogram at the origin. By looking at the 2D and 3D cases, we can observe that in $Bbb R^n$, there will be $n$ edges of the parallelogram leaving the origin (or any other vertex for that matter). Let's call the vectors from the origin to the remote ends of those edges $v_1, ldots, v_n$, OK?



Now you have to think a little, and realize that once you have, for some parallelogram $S$ (just to give it a name) those $n$ vectors, the set of all points in $S$ is exactly the set of linear combinations
$$
c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n
$$

where $0 le c_i le 1$ for all $i = 1, ldots, n$. In fact, let's give that set a name. I'm going to define
$$
Y(v_1, v_2, ldots, v_n) =
{c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}.
$$



I'm going to hope that you believe those last two claims (namely that $n$ edges meet at the origin, and that linear combinations of those, with $0$-to-$1$ coefficients, constitute the entire parallelogram), but if you don't, by all means tell me. There's one last bit: I also claim that not only can every parallelogram at the origin be described this way, but every set described this way is also a parallelogram. (Interesting things happen when the vectors are linearly dependent, so this isn't completely trivial. As a first step, it requires a really clear definition of "parallelogram"!)



Now what I have to do is to show you what happens when I linearly transform one such set, I get another; then I'll have shown that linear transformations take parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin (and hence that they take parallelograms anywhere to other parallelograms), so that you really can do part "b" of the problem just as Spivak asks.



So: let's look at a linear transformation $T$, applied to the set $Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)$. We get
begin{align}
&T(Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)) \
&= Tleft( {c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}right)\
&= {T(c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}\
&= {T(c_1v_1) + T(c_2 v_2) + ldots + T(c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity}\
&= {c_1T(v_1) + c_2T( v_2) + ldots + c_nT( v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity again}\
&= {c_1 w_1 + c_2 w_2 + ldots + c_n w_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{where $w_i = T(v_i)$ for each $i$}\
&= Y(w_1, ldots, w_n).
end{align}

So the parallelogram generated by the $v$ vectors has become a parallelogram generated by the $w$ vectors, where each $w_i$ is just $T(v_i)$.



And I think that's the end of the story.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



A serious hint, not a solution.



This is a serious hint, one that can be reduced to saying "You should read the hint given in the problem itself; Spivak his helping you out here!"




  1. You know from the hint that $g$ can be written
    $$
    g = h_1 circ h_2 circ h_3 circ cdots circ h_k
    $$

    where each $h_i$ is a linear transformation of the form given.


  2. You know that if $g = p circ q$, and all are linear transformation on $Bbb R^n$, then $det g = (det p) cdot (det q)$, right?


  3. You know that for each $h_i$, you have the volume of $h_i(U)$ is $|det h_i|$ times the volume of $U$.



What do you get when you combine these three facts to attempt to compute the volume of $g(U)$ for some rectangle $U$?



Post-comment addition



As OP points out, I really set about answering the wrong question. The real question was, in essence, "Why is it that when $h$ and $g$ both transform a rectangle to a parallelogram, that $h circ g$ does as well?"



First of all, I want to concentrate on parallelograms with one vertex at the origin. Suppose that $E$ is a parallelogram with one vertex at $P$. Then $E' = E-P$ (i.e., subtract $P$ from every point in $E$ to get a new set $E'$) is a parallelogram with one vertex at the origin. And if $T$ is a linear transformation, and $Q in E$, we can write
$$
T(Q) = T(Q-P) + T(P)
$$

by linearity. So
begin{align}
{T(Q) mid Q in E }
&= {T(Q-P) + T(P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(Q-P) mid Q in E } \
&= T(P) + {T(S) mid S in E' }
end{align}

In short, we can understand how $T$ transforms the set $E$ by looking at how it transforms $E'$, and then adding a constant vector $T(P)$ to the result. Thus I've reduced the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms to parallelograms" to the problem of showing that "$T$ takes parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin," where "at the origin" means "with one vertex being the origin."



The next problem is to figure out what exactly is a parallelogram at the origin. By looking at the 2D and 3D cases, we can observe that in $Bbb R^n$, there will be $n$ edges of the parallelogram leaving the origin (or any other vertex for that matter). Let's call the vectors from the origin to the remote ends of those edges $v_1, ldots, v_n$, OK?



Now you have to think a little, and realize that once you have, for some parallelogram $S$ (just to give it a name) those $n$ vectors, the set of all points in $S$ is exactly the set of linear combinations
$$
c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n
$$

where $0 le c_i le 1$ for all $i = 1, ldots, n$. In fact, let's give that set a name. I'm going to define
$$
Y(v_1, v_2, ldots, v_n) =
{c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}.
$$



I'm going to hope that you believe those last two claims (namely that $n$ edges meet at the origin, and that linear combinations of those, with $0$-to-$1$ coefficients, constitute the entire parallelogram), but if you don't, by all means tell me. There's one last bit: I also claim that not only can every parallelogram at the origin be described this way, but every set described this way is also a parallelogram. (Interesting things happen when the vectors are linearly dependent, so this isn't completely trivial. As a first step, it requires a really clear definition of "parallelogram"!)



Now what I have to do is to show you what happens when I linearly transform one such set, I get another; then I'll have shown that linear transformations take parallelograms at the origin to parallelograms at the origin (and hence that they take parallelograms anywhere to other parallelograms), so that you really can do part "b" of the problem just as Spivak asks.



So: let's look at a linear transformation $T$, applied to the set $Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)$. We get
begin{align}
&T(Y(v_1, ldots, v_n)) \
&= Tleft( {c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}right)\
&= {T(c_1v_1 + c_2 v_2 + ldots + c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n}\
&= {T(c_1v_1) + T(c_2 v_2) + ldots + T(c_n v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity}\
&= {c_1T(v_1) + c_2T( v_2) + ldots + c_nT( v_n) mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{by linearity again}\
&= {c_1 w_1 + c_2 w_2 + ldots + c_n w_n mid 0 le c_i le 1, i = 1, ldots, n} & text{where $w_i = T(v_i)$ for each $i$}\
&= Y(w_1, ldots, w_n).
end{align}

So the parallelogram generated by the $v$ vectors has become a parallelogram generated by the $w$ vectors, where each $w_i$ is just $T(v_i)$.



And I think that's the end of the story.







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  • $begingroup$
    I am sorry, but I do not think I made myself clear enough in my question. I am well aware of this hint, and I am well aware you are intended to stitch this hint together with the fact that determinant is multiplicative to get (b). I am saying it is not that simple, as the $h_i$'s in your answer can modify the shape of $U$, and part (a) only holds for $U$ rectangular. This was the crux of my original question.
    $endgroup$
    – Aneesh
    Jan 23 at 14:11








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    No...you were clear. I was just too hasty in my reading. I'll add more to my answer shortly.
    $endgroup$
    – John Hughes
    Jan 23 at 17:27










  • $begingroup$
    See post-comment addition.
    $endgroup$
    – John Hughes
    Jan 23 at 17:53










  • $begingroup$
    Apologies if I've misunderstood, but what you've shown so far is that linear transformations take parallelograms (as you've described) to parallelograms, but part (a) is only valid for rectangles, which is the specific case of a parallelogram where the vectors generating the parallelogram are orthogonal. So I don't think this is quite enough to use part (a) and prove part (b). One has to show that even though $g_2$ takes rectangles to parallelograms (where the parallelograms edges may NOT be orthogonal), we can still apply part (a).
    $endgroup$
    – Aneesh
    Jan 23 at 18:07










  • $begingroup$
    To add to the comment above, a method one could use to show this, is that if one proves (a) for $U$ a parallelogram at the origin generated by $n$ linearly independent vectors in $mathbb{R}^n$, then we can prove part (b) easily (as a rectangle is a special case of a parallelogram as you have defined where the generating vectors are orthogonal)
    $endgroup$
    – Aneesh
    Jan 23 at 18:09




















  • $begingroup$
    I am sorry, but I do not think I made myself clear enough in my question. I am well aware of this hint, and I am well aware you are intended to stitch this hint together with the fact that determinant is multiplicative to get (b). I am saying it is not that simple, as the $h_i$'s in your answer can modify the shape of $U$, and part (a) only holds for $U$ rectangular. This was the crux of my original question.
    $endgroup$
    – Aneesh
    Jan 23 at 14:11








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    No...you were clear. I was just too hasty in my reading. I'll add more to my answer shortly.
    $endgroup$
    – John Hughes
    Jan 23 at 17:27










  • $begingroup$
    See post-comment addition.
    $endgroup$
    – John Hughes
    Jan 23 at 17:53










  • $begingroup$
    Apologies if I've misunderstood, but what you've shown so far is that linear transformations take parallelograms (as you've described) to parallelograms, but part (a) is only valid for rectangles, which is the specific case of a parallelogram where the vectors generating the parallelogram are orthogonal. So I don't think this is quite enough to use part (a) and prove part (b). One has to show that even though $g_2$ takes rectangles to parallelograms (where the parallelograms edges may NOT be orthogonal), we can still apply part (a).
    $endgroup$
    – Aneesh
    Jan 23 at 18:07










  • $begingroup$
    To add to the comment above, a method one could use to show this, is that if one proves (a) for $U$ a parallelogram at the origin generated by $n$ linearly independent vectors in $mathbb{R}^n$, then we can prove part (b) easily (as a rectangle is a special case of a parallelogram as you have defined where the generating vectors are orthogonal)
    $endgroup$
    – Aneesh
    Jan 23 at 18:09


















$begingroup$
I am sorry, but I do not think I made myself clear enough in my question. I am well aware of this hint, and I am well aware you are intended to stitch this hint together with the fact that determinant is multiplicative to get (b). I am saying it is not that simple, as the $h_i$'s in your answer can modify the shape of $U$, and part (a) only holds for $U$ rectangular. This was the crux of my original question.
$endgroup$
– Aneesh
Jan 23 at 14:11






$begingroup$
I am sorry, but I do not think I made myself clear enough in my question. I am well aware of this hint, and I am well aware you are intended to stitch this hint together with the fact that determinant is multiplicative to get (b). I am saying it is not that simple, as the $h_i$'s in your answer can modify the shape of $U$, and part (a) only holds for $U$ rectangular. This was the crux of my original question.
$endgroup$
– Aneesh
Jan 23 at 14:11






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1




$begingroup$
No...you were clear. I was just too hasty in my reading. I'll add more to my answer shortly.
$endgroup$
– John Hughes
Jan 23 at 17:27




$begingroup$
No...you were clear. I was just too hasty in my reading. I'll add more to my answer shortly.
$endgroup$
– John Hughes
Jan 23 at 17:27












$begingroup$
See post-comment addition.
$endgroup$
– John Hughes
Jan 23 at 17:53




$begingroup$
See post-comment addition.
$endgroup$
– John Hughes
Jan 23 at 17:53












$begingroup$
Apologies if I've misunderstood, but what you've shown so far is that linear transformations take parallelograms (as you've described) to parallelograms, but part (a) is only valid for rectangles, which is the specific case of a parallelogram where the vectors generating the parallelogram are orthogonal. So I don't think this is quite enough to use part (a) and prove part (b). One has to show that even though $g_2$ takes rectangles to parallelograms (where the parallelograms edges may NOT be orthogonal), we can still apply part (a).
$endgroup$
– Aneesh
Jan 23 at 18:07




$begingroup$
Apologies if I've misunderstood, but what you've shown so far is that linear transformations take parallelograms (as you've described) to parallelograms, but part (a) is only valid for rectangles, which is the specific case of a parallelogram where the vectors generating the parallelogram are orthogonal. So I don't think this is quite enough to use part (a) and prove part (b). One has to show that even though $g_2$ takes rectangles to parallelograms (where the parallelograms edges may NOT be orthogonal), we can still apply part (a).
$endgroup$
– Aneesh
Jan 23 at 18:07












$begingroup$
To add to the comment above, a method one could use to show this, is that if one proves (a) for $U$ a parallelogram at the origin generated by $n$ linearly independent vectors in $mathbb{R}^n$, then we can prove part (b) easily (as a rectangle is a special case of a parallelogram as you have defined where the generating vectors are orthogonal)
$endgroup$
– Aneesh
Jan 23 at 18:09






$begingroup$
To add to the comment above, a method one could use to show this, is that if one proves (a) for $U$ a parallelogram at the origin generated by $n$ linearly independent vectors in $mathbb{R}^n$, then we can prove part (b) easily (as a rectangle is a special case of a parallelogram as you have defined where the generating vectors are orthogonal)
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Jan 23 at 18:09




















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