How to prove that $lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n}=operatorname{max}(a,b)$? [duplicate]












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How do I show that $$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n}=operatorname{max}(a,b)$$
with $a,bge0$.



I tried to do this by dividing it in two cases, when $a=b$ and $agt b$.



In the case $agt b$ I factored $a^n$ like this: $$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{a^n left(1+{b^nover a^n} right)} = lim_{ntoinfty} asqrt[n]{1+{b^nover a^n}} = alim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{1+{b^nover a^n}}$$



Then I expressed it in exponential way. $$alim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}$$



Now I need to prove that $lim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}=1$ so the whole limit is equal to a. The problem is that I don't know how to take the limit of $lim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}$ I tried to use the natural logarithm, but it ended up like this:
$$lim_{ntoinfty} logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}=lim_{ntoinfty} {1over n} logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)=lim_{ntoinfty} {1over n} lim_{ntoinfty}logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)=0$$
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    You have shown that the logarithm of the limit is $0$, so the limit is $1$, which I believe is what you were trying to prove.
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    I don't understand how the fact that logarithm of the limit is $0$ implies that the limit is $1$, can you explain please?
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    Jan 23 at 3:55






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    $x=1$ is the solution to the equation $log(x)=0$. Just replace $x$ with your limit.
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    Oh, so I was correct all this time, thanks!
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    – davidllerenav
    Jan 23 at 4:05
















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  • Convergence of $sqrt[n]{x^n+y^n}$ (for $x, y > 0$)

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How do I show that $$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n}=operatorname{max}(a,b)$$
with $a,bge0$.



I tried to do this by dividing it in two cases, when $a=b$ and $agt b$.



In the case $agt b$ I factored $a^n$ like this: $$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{a^n left(1+{b^nover a^n} right)} = lim_{ntoinfty} asqrt[n]{1+{b^nover a^n}} = alim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{1+{b^nover a^n}}$$



Then I expressed it in exponential way. $$alim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}$$



Now I need to prove that $lim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}=1$ so the whole limit is equal to a. The problem is that I don't know how to take the limit of $lim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}$ I tried to use the natural logarithm, but it ended up like this:
$$lim_{ntoinfty} logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}=lim_{ntoinfty} {1over n} logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)=lim_{ntoinfty} {1over n} lim_{ntoinfty}logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)=0$$
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    You have shown that the logarithm of the limit is $0$, so the limit is $1$, which I believe is what you were trying to prove.
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    – greelious
    Jan 23 at 3:50










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    I don't understand how the fact that logarithm of the limit is $0$ implies that the limit is $1$, can you explain please?
    $endgroup$
    – davidllerenav
    Jan 23 at 3:55






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    $x=1$ is the solution to the equation $log(x)=0$. Just replace $x$ with your limit.
    $endgroup$
    – greelious
    Jan 23 at 3:57












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    Oh, so I was correct all this time, thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – davidllerenav
    Jan 23 at 4:05














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  • Convergence of $sqrt[n]{x^n+y^n}$ (for $x, y > 0$)

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  • How to compute the limit $lim_{n to infty} sqrt[n]{a_1^n + cdots + a_m^n}$?

    2 answers




How do I show that $$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n}=operatorname{max}(a,b)$$
with $a,bge0$.



I tried to do this by dividing it in two cases, when $a=b$ and $agt b$.



In the case $agt b$ I factored $a^n$ like this: $$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{a^n left(1+{b^nover a^n} right)} = lim_{ntoinfty} asqrt[n]{1+{b^nover a^n}} = alim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{1+{b^nover a^n}}$$



Then I expressed it in exponential way. $$alim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}$$



Now I need to prove that $lim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}=1$ so the whole limit is equal to a. The problem is that I don't know how to take the limit of $lim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}$ I tried to use the natural logarithm, but it ended up like this:
$$lim_{ntoinfty} logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}=lim_{ntoinfty} {1over n} logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)=lim_{ntoinfty} {1over n} lim_{ntoinfty}logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)=0$$
What did I do wrong and how can I do it right?










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  • Convergence of $sqrt[n]{x^n+y^n}$ (for $x, y > 0$)

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  • How to compute the limit $lim_{n to infty} sqrt[n]{a_1^n + cdots + a_m^n}$?

    2 answers




How do I show that $$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n}=operatorname{max}(a,b)$$
with $a,bge0$.



I tried to do this by dividing it in two cases, when $a=b$ and $agt b$.



In the case $agt b$ I factored $a^n$ like this: $$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{a^n left(1+{b^nover a^n} right)} = lim_{ntoinfty} asqrt[n]{1+{b^nover a^n}} = alim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{1+{b^nover a^n}}$$



Then I expressed it in exponential way. $$alim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}$$



Now I need to prove that $lim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}=1$ so the whole limit is equal to a. The problem is that I don't know how to take the limit of $lim_{ntoinfty} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}$ I tried to use the natural logarithm, but it ended up like this:
$$lim_{ntoinfty} logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}=lim_{ntoinfty} {1over n} logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)=lim_{ntoinfty} {1over n} lim_{ntoinfty}logleft({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)=0$$
What did I do wrong and how can I do it right?





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  • Convergence of $sqrt[n]{x^n+y^n}$ (for $x, y > 0$)

    2 answers



  • How to compute the limit $lim_{n to infty} sqrt[n]{a_1^n + cdots + a_m^n}$?

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    You have shown that the logarithm of the limit is $0$, so the limit is $1$, which I believe is what you were trying to prove.
    $endgroup$
    – greelious
    Jan 23 at 3:50










  • $begingroup$
    I don't understand how the fact that logarithm of the limit is $0$ implies that the limit is $1$, can you explain please?
    $endgroup$
    – davidllerenav
    Jan 23 at 3:55






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    $x=1$ is the solution to the equation $log(x)=0$. Just replace $x$ with your limit.
    $endgroup$
    – greelious
    Jan 23 at 3:57












  • $begingroup$
    Oh, so I was correct all this time, thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – davidllerenav
    Jan 23 at 4:05














  • 3




    $begingroup$
    You have shown that the logarithm of the limit is $0$, so the limit is $1$, which I believe is what you were trying to prove.
    $endgroup$
    – greelious
    Jan 23 at 3:50










  • $begingroup$
    I don't understand how the fact that logarithm of the limit is $0$ implies that the limit is $1$, can you explain please?
    $endgroup$
    – davidllerenav
    Jan 23 at 3:55






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    $x=1$ is the solution to the equation $log(x)=0$. Just replace $x$ with your limit.
    $endgroup$
    – greelious
    Jan 23 at 3:57












  • $begingroup$
    Oh, so I was correct all this time, thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – davidllerenav
    Jan 23 at 4:05








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You have shown that the logarithm of the limit is $0$, so the limit is $1$, which I believe is what you were trying to prove.
$endgroup$
– greelious
Jan 23 at 3:50




$begingroup$
You have shown that the logarithm of the limit is $0$, so the limit is $1$, which I believe is what you were trying to prove.
$endgroup$
– greelious
Jan 23 at 3:50












$begingroup$
I don't understand how the fact that logarithm of the limit is $0$ implies that the limit is $1$, can you explain please?
$endgroup$
– davidllerenav
Jan 23 at 3:55




$begingroup$
I don't understand how the fact that logarithm of the limit is $0$ implies that the limit is $1$, can you explain please?
$endgroup$
– davidllerenav
Jan 23 at 3:55




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$begingroup$
$x=1$ is the solution to the equation $log(x)=0$. Just replace $x$ with your limit.
$endgroup$
– greelious
Jan 23 at 3:57






$begingroup$
$x=1$ is the solution to the equation $log(x)=0$. Just replace $x$ with your limit.
$endgroup$
– greelious
Jan 23 at 3:57














$begingroup$
Oh, so I was correct all this time, thanks!
$endgroup$
– davidllerenav
Jan 23 at 4:05




$begingroup$
Oh, so I was correct all this time, thanks!
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– davidllerenav
Jan 23 at 4:05










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Assume that $a geq b$. Else, relabel the numbers $a leftrightarrow b$. This being understood, we have $a = max(a,b)$. Then $$a =sqrt[n]{a^n} leq sqrt{a^n+b^n} leq sqrt{a^n + a^n} = sqrt[n]{2} a. $$Now apply $lim_{n to +infty}$ on everything, noting that $sqrt[n]{2} to 1$. It follows from the squeeze theorem that $$lim_{nto +infty}sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n} = a,$$ as wanted.






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    For your specific question you may proceed as follows using





    • $lim_{xto 0}left(1+x right)^{frac{1}{x}} = e$ and

    • Let $a>b > 0$ (For $b= 0$ there is nothing to show.) $Rightarrow 0< q:= frac{b}{a} < 1 Rightarrow q^n stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} 0$


    begin{eqnarray*} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}
    & = & (1+q^n)^{frac{1}{n}}\
    & = & left( underbrace{(1+q^n)^{frac{1}{q^n}}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}e} right)^{underbrace{frac{q^n}{n}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}0}}\
    & stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} & e^0 = 1
    end{eqnarray*}






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      Assume that $a geq b$. Else, relabel the numbers $a leftrightarrow b$. This being understood, we have $a = max(a,b)$. Then $$a =sqrt[n]{a^n} leq sqrt{a^n+b^n} leq sqrt{a^n + a^n} = sqrt[n]{2} a. $$Now apply $lim_{n to +infty}$ on everything, noting that $sqrt[n]{2} to 1$. It follows from the squeeze theorem that $$lim_{nto +infty}sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n} = a,$$ as wanted.






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        Assume that $a geq b$. Else, relabel the numbers $a leftrightarrow b$. This being understood, we have $a = max(a,b)$. Then $$a =sqrt[n]{a^n} leq sqrt{a^n+b^n} leq sqrt{a^n + a^n} = sqrt[n]{2} a. $$Now apply $lim_{n to +infty}$ on everything, noting that $sqrt[n]{2} to 1$. It follows from the squeeze theorem that $$lim_{nto +infty}sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n} = a,$$ as wanted.






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          Assume that $a geq b$. Else, relabel the numbers $a leftrightarrow b$. This being understood, we have $a = max(a,b)$. Then $$a =sqrt[n]{a^n} leq sqrt{a^n+b^n} leq sqrt{a^n + a^n} = sqrt[n]{2} a. $$Now apply $lim_{n to +infty}$ on everything, noting that $sqrt[n]{2} to 1$. It follows from the squeeze theorem that $$lim_{nto +infty}sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n} = a,$$ as wanted.






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          Assume that $a geq b$. Else, relabel the numbers $a leftrightarrow b$. This being understood, we have $a = max(a,b)$. Then $$a =sqrt[n]{a^n} leq sqrt{a^n+b^n} leq sqrt{a^n + a^n} = sqrt[n]{2} a. $$Now apply $lim_{n to +infty}$ on everything, noting that $sqrt[n]{2} to 1$. It follows from the squeeze theorem that $$lim_{nto +infty}sqrt[n]{a^n+b^n} = a,$$ as wanted.







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              For your specific question you may proceed as follows using





              • $lim_{xto 0}left(1+x right)^{frac{1}{x}} = e$ and

              • Let $a>b > 0$ (For $b= 0$ there is nothing to show.) $Rightarrow 0< q:= frac{b}{a} < 1 Rightarrow q^n stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} 0$


              begin{eqnarray*} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}
              & = & (1+q^n)^{frac{1}{n}}\
              & = & left( underbrace{(1+q^n)^{frac{1}{q^n}}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}e} right)^{underbrace{frac{q^n}{n}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}0}}\
              & stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} & e^0 = 1
              end{eqnarray*}






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                For your specific question you may proceed as follows using





                • $lim_{xto 0}left(1+x right)^{frac{1}{x}} = e$ and

                • Let $a>b > 0$ (For $b= 0$ there is nothing to show.) $Rightarrow 0< q:= frac{b}{a} < 1 Rightarrow q^n stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} 0$


                begin{eqnarray*} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}
                & = & (1+q^n)^{frac{1}{n}}\
                & = & left( underbrace{(1+q^n)^{frac{1}{q^n}}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}e} right)^{underbrace{frac{q^n}{n}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}0}}\
                & stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} & e^0 = 1
                end{eqnarray*}






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                  For your specific question you may proceed as follows using





                  • $lim_{xto 0}left(1+x right)^{frac{1}{x}} = e$ and

                  • Let $a>b > 0$ (For $b= 0$ there is nothing to show.) $Rightarrow 0< q:= frac{b}{a} < 1 Rightarrow q^n stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} 0$


                  begin{eqnarray*} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}
                  & = & (1+q^n)^{frac{1}{n}}\
                  & = & left( underbrace{(1+q^n)^{frac{1}{q^n}}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}e} right)^{underbrace{frac{q^n}{n}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}0}}\
                  & stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} & e^0 = 1
                  end{eqnarray*}






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                  For your specific question you may proceed as follows using





                  • $lim_{xto 0}left(1+x right)^{frac{1}{x}} = e$ and

                  • Let $a>b > 0$ (For $b= 0$ there is nothing to show.) $Rightarrow 0< q:= frac{b}{a} < 1 Rightarrow q^n stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} 0$


                  begin{eqnarray*} left({1+{b^nover a^n}}right)^{1/n}
                  & = & (1+q^n)^{frac{1}{n}}\
                  & = & left( underbrace{(1+q^n)^{frac{1}{q^n}}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}e} right)^{underbrace{frac{q^n}{n}}_{stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow}0}}\
                  & stackrel{n to infty}{longrightarrow} & e^0 = 1
                  end{eqnarray*}







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