Why is angle of incidence equal to angle of reflection?
In the Law of Reflection, the angle of incidence is equal to angle of reflection. Why is this true? This is clearly true experimentally, but how does one prove this true mathematically?
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In the Law of Reflection, the angle of incidence is equal to angle of reflection. Why is this true? This is clearly true experimentally, but how does one prove this true mathematically?
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It is mostly due to a perfect plane of the reflecting surface. If the surface is not plane, but wavy, you will have a "diffusion" rather than a reflection to some certain angle.
– Vladimir Kalitvianski
yesterday
math.stackexchange.com/questions/1395215/…
– N. Steinle
yesterday
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The math behind the proofs linked in the above comments is somewhat straightforward; I'm not sure you're saying what you mean with 'prove this (mathematically)'. It's more likely that you're hoping for a derivation from first principles and fundamental characteristics of light and matter; wording which suggests the same would be helpful.
– Chair
yesterday
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This question is completely outside the realm of science, so I suggest to rephrase it. Science doesn't ever question "is XYZ true?" or "why is XYZ true?". Science doesn't ever prove an experimental result. Science uses experimental results and thinking as two inputs in order to produce its output: to predict future experimental results. That's it. If "math" stops working one day, science will probably trash it and look for other tools - but the light will still reflect the old way.
– kubanczyk
21 hours ago
4
Chapter 2 in Feynman’s QED book talks about the Law of Reflection. It’s interesting how time of travel plays a role.
– Lambda
21 hours ago
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In the Law of Reflection, the angle of incidence is equal to angle of reflection. Why is this true? This is clearly true experimentally, but how does one prove this true mathematically?
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In the Law of Reflection, the angle of incidence is equal to angle of reflection. Why is this true? This is clearly true experimentally, but how does one prove this true mathematically?
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It is mostly due to a perfect plane of the reflecting surface. If the surface is not plane, but wavy, you will have a "diffusion" rather than a reflection to some certain angle.
– Vladimir Kalitvianski
yesterday
math.stackexchange.com/questions/1395215/…
– N. Steinle
yesterday
3
The math behind the proofs linked in the above comments is somewhat straightforward; I'm not sure you're saying what you mean with 'prove this (mathematically)'. It's more likely that you're hoping for a derivation from first principles and fundamental characteristics of light and matter; wording which suggests the same would be helpful.
– Chair
yesterday
5
This question is completely outside the realm of science, so I suggest to rephrase it. Science doesn't ever question "is XYZ true?" or "why is XYZ true?". Science doesn't ever prove an experimental result. Science uses experimental results and thinking as two inputs in order to produce its output: to predict future experimental results. That's it. If "math" stops working one day, science will probably trash it and look for other tools - but the light will still reflect the old way.
– kubanczyk
21 hours ago
4
Chapter 2 in Feynman’s QED book talks about the Law of Reflection. It’s interesting how time of travel plays a role.
– Lambda
21 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
It is mostly due to a perfect plane of the reflecting surface. If the surface is not plane, but wavy, you will have a "diffusion" rather than a reflection to some certain angle.
– Vladimir Kalitvianski
yesterday
math.stackexchange.com/questions/1395215/…
– N. Steinle
yesterday
3
The math behind the proofs linked in the above comments is somewhat straightforward; I'm not sure you're saying what you mean with 'prove this (mathematically)'. It's more likely that you're hoping for a derivation from first principles and fundamental characteristics of light and matter; wording which suggests the same would be helpful.
– Chair
yesterday
5
This question is completely outside the realm of science, so I suggest to rephrase it. Science doesn't ever question "is XYZ true?" or "why is XYZ true?". Science doesn't ever prove an experimental result. Science uses experimental results and thinking as two inputs in order to produce its output: to predict future experimental results. That's it. If "math" stops working one day, science will probably trash it and look for other tools - but the light will still reflect the old way.
– kubanczyk
21 hours ago
4
Chapter 2 in Feynman’s QED book talks about the Law of Reflection. It’s interesting how time of travel plays a role.
– Lambda
21 hours ago
It is mostly due to a perfect plane of the reflecting surface. If the surface is not plane, but wavy, you will have a "diffusion" rather than a reflection to some certain angle.
– Vladimir Kalitvianski
yesterday
It is mostly due to a perfect plane of the reflecting surface. If the surface is not plane, but wavy, you will have a "diffusion" rather than a reflection to some certain angle.
– Vladimir Kalitvianski
yesterday
math.stackexchange.com/questions/1395215/…
– N. Steinle
yesterday
math.stackexchange.com/questions/1395215/…
– N. Steinle
yesterday
3
3
The math behind the proofs linked in the above comments is somewhat straightforward; I'm not sure you're saying what you mean with 'prove this (mathematically)'. It's more likely that you're hoping for a derivation from first principles and fundamental characteristics of light and matter; wording which suggests the same would be helpful.
– Chair
yesterday
The math behind the proofs linked in the above comments is somewhat straightforward; I'm not sure you're saying what you mean with 'prove this (mathematically)'. It's more likely that you're hoping for a derivation from first principles and fundamental characteristics of light and matter; wording which suggests the same would be helpful.
– Chair
yesterday
5
5
This question is completely outside the realm of science, so I suggest to rephrase it. Science doesn't ever question "is XYZ true?" or "why is XYZ true?". Science doesn't ever prove an experimental result. Science uses experimental results and thinking as two inputs in order to produce its output: to predict future experimental results. That's it. If "math" stops working one day, science will probably trash it and look for other tools - but the light will still reflect the old way.
– kubanczyk
21 hours ago
This question is completely outside the realm of science, so I suggest to rephrase it. Science doesn't ever question "is XYZ true?" or "why is XYZ true?". Science doesn't ever prove an experimental result. Science uses experimental results and thinking as two inputs in order to produce its output: to predict future experimental results. That's it. If "math" stops working one day, science will probably trash it and look for other tools - but the light will still reflect the old way.
– kubanczyk
21 hours ago
4
4
Chapter 2 in Feynman’s QED book talks about the Law of Reflection. It’s interesting how time of travel plays a role.
– Lambda
21 hours ago
Chapter 2 in Feynman’s QED book talks about the Law of Reflection. It’s interesting how time of travel plays a role.
– Lambda
21 hours ago
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The answer by harshit54 is very concise and clear and gives you answers in multiple layers of understanding. However, to quote Leonardo DiCaprio: we need to go deeper. Not because we must, but because we can! There's a TL;DR below.
A beam of light can be thought of as a stream of energy packets (photons, which are the quanta of light - lots of interesting words to look up in the dictionary already). Now let's zoom in and look at what happens when the photon hits any material. It runs into a wall of atoms - lots of nuclei surrounded by electrons (also energy packets - there's more to it but let's not write out all of quantum mechanics here). When a photon hits an electron, its energy gets absorbed and the electron goes into a higher energy state. This does not last long; the electron left an "empty" energy state below it, which is an energetically more favorable position for it. Thus, there is a chance that it spontaneously jumps back to a lower energy state. This chance increases over time, so it's pretty certain that it will jump back quite quickly. When it does, it needs to get rid of its extra energy. This energy is released as a photon!
If this is the only electron in the neighbourhood that releases a photon, it will go in any random direction. HOWEVER! There's a catch. Hint: this is where the wave nature of light comes into play. Let's assume that the beam of light hits the reflecting surface directly from above, so the angle of incidence is 0 degrees. Now you have many electrons that are being bombarded by even more photons, all emitting photons in many directions. The photons that are emitted at an angle however, will be out of phase with eachother (since there is a distance between the electrons, if two photons are emitted at any angle at the same time, there will be a slight delay between them). Photons that are out of phase will tend to cancel eachother out. Photons that are in phase (all the photons that are emitted upwards) will constructively interfere with eachother.
Now something interesting happens - something that also explains why lasers work. When an electron emits a photon, and there are many photons around it who all have the same phase and direction, the emitted photon will copy the phase and direction of the photons around it! So very quickly, all photons that are emitted in random directions die out and only photons that are emitted perfectly in phase with eachother remain.
Now tilt your light beam at an angle. No longer the photons that are emitted upwards are in phase with eachother, but only the photons that are emitted at the exact same angle as the incident photons are in phase. So they remain!
So why does this not happen at any surface? Well, the above only applies to surfaces with lots of electrons, found in materials where electrons are free - for example metals! Surfaces where all electrons are bound will not absorb the photons immediately - they'll penetrate the first few layers of atoms unhindered until by chance they are absorbed. When a new photon is emitted, it will run into other atoms (it's not at the surface anymore!) and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions. Combine this with the fact that without free electrons it is VERY difficult to smooth a surface, it will give you no chance for a decent (specular) reflection.
TL;DR
Photon energy is absorbed by electron
Energy is emitted by electron in the form of a new photon
Photons that are out of phase with eachother die out
Only photons that are emitted at the same angle as the angle of incidence are in phase
Those remain. (Specular) reflection!
The above only works in materials with lots of free electrons, like metals
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No they will reflect light, but less so and the reflected light will be diffuse.
– enzolima
22 hours ago
1
See the sentence "...and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions." <= diffuse reflection!
– enzolima
21 hours ago
2
Is the converse true - that anything which provides clear reflections (like perhaps a highly-polished polyurethane-coated wood floor), has lots of free/loosely-held electrons?
– HammerN'Songs
21 hours ago
1
You said that for reflection we need a surface full of free electrons. However reflection also occurs on a surface of water which does not have any free electrons. How does this happen then?
– harshit54
20 hours ago
3
@harshit54 See here: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/210607/… the answer that enzolima gives is a specific case: the case of long wavelength light (relative to the atomic spacing) with metals. And in a crude approximation, a body of water can be treated as a weak conductor, depending on what you want to do with it
– N. Steinle
17 hours ago
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Well this can be proven in many ways. If you think of light as waves, then use Huygen's Principle.
A much easier proof can also be developed if you consider light as rays propagating in a line. For this we can use Fermat's Principle.
However if you think of light as particles then a much more intuitive proof can be created by considering a ball being hit on the ground. The part of its velocity parallel to the ground will not change (due to conservation of linear momentum) and the part perpendicular to the ground will flip(assuming an Elastic Collision).
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It might be worth mentioning that the reason the velocity doesn't change (for both the ball and the photon) is that this is the only solution that conserves both energy and momentum.
– Harry Johnston
17 hours ago
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This is beautifully explained by Feynman using his path integrals.
I cannot hope to do it better, but just a quick non-mathematical overview.
What is mind-blowing about the theory is that you assume that individual photon (on quantum electrodynamics level) is actually "reflected" in each possible direction by each atom of the mirror surface. If you calculate how all these "reflections" interfere with each other, you will see that it wouldn't result in chaos, because most of them tend to silence each other, except for one output angle. The silencing is because depending on timing of each possible path, the phases can be opposite at a place. According to the theory it means that the photon wouldn't probably appear there. What is great about it, is that "summing" (integrating) the phases of all these zillions paths doesn't require a supercomputer, but can be done in few minutes by drawing small pictures on a blackboard - see the video.
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It is not necessarily true. A counterexample would be the thought experiment of internal reflection at the surface of a magnetic material, when incident and reflected waves experience different indices of refraction because of magnetic circular birefringence. I think MP Silverman wrote about it, but I cannot find a reference now.
In magneto-optics, one cannot assume Helmholtz reciprocity and reversibility of the rays. ("If I can see you, you can see me.")
The reason for this is that time reversal would also reverse the direction of electrical currents (in coils) and the direction of magnetic fields.
So the basic reason for the law of reflection is symmetry, the time reversibility of the light rays.
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This actually follows from the continuity relations of Maxwell’s equations at the interface of two media: the component of the field tangential to the surface must be the same by $ointvec Ecdot dvec ell=0$ while the normal component will have a discontinuity found by Gauss’ law and related to the net surface charge density at the interface.
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As others have pointed out, you can look at this from ray optics (Fermat's principle), wave optics (consequence of phase matching from boundary conditions for the wave equation at an interface), or more complicated QM approaches.
There was a counterexample mentioned above that I wanted to add to - all you need is a common birefringent crystal (e.g. calcite). For a ray leaving the crystal through a face at some nonzero angle of incidence, there will be refraction out of the crystal as well as reflection at some angle. If your crystal axis is oriented appropriately, the reflected ray will see a different index than the incident ray, changing the reflected angle to be different than the incident angle. This is all just the consequence of phasematching at the interface.
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Snell's law expresses that for a perfectly plane reflecting interface the momentum parallel to the plane is conserved.
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The answer by harshit54 is very concise and clear and gives you answers in multiple layers of understanding. However, to quote Leonardo DiCaprio: we need to go deeper. Not because we must, but because we can! There's a TL;DR below.
A beam of light can be thought of as a stream of energy packets (photons, which are the quanta of light - lots of interesting words to look up in the dictionary already). Now let's zoom in and look at what happens when the photon hits any material. It runs into a wall of atoms - lots of nuclei surrounded by electrons (also energy packets - there's more to it but let's not write out all of quantum mechanics here). When a photon hits an electron, its energy gets absorbed and the electron goes into a higher energy state. This does not last long; the electron left an "empty" energy state below it, which is an energetically more favorable position for it. Thus, there is a chance that it spontaneously jumps back to a lower energy state. This chance increases over time, so it's pretty certain that it will jump back quite quickly. When it does, it needs to get rid of its extra energy. This energy is released as a photon!
If this is the only electron in the neighbourhood that releases a photon, it will go in any random direction. HOWEVER! There's a catch. Hint: this is where the wave nature of light comes into play. Let's assume that the beam of light hits the reflecting surface directly from above, so the angle of incidence is 0 degrees. Now you have many electrons that are being bombarded by even more photons, all emitting photons in many directions. The photons that are emitted at an angle however, will be out of phase with eachother (since there is a distance between the electrons, if two photons are emitted at any angle at the same time, there will be a slight delay between them). Photons that are out of phase will tend to cancel eachother out. Photons that are in phase (all the photons that are emitted upwards) will constructively interfere with eachother.
Now something interesting happens - something that also explains why lasers work. When an electron emits a photon, and there are many photons around it who all have the same phase and direction, the emitted photon will copy the phase and direction of the photons around it! So very quickly, all photons that are emitted in random directions die out and only photons that are emitted perfectly in phase with eachother remain.
Now tilt your light beam at an angle. No longer the photons that are emitted upwards are in phase with eachother, but only the photons that are emitted at the exact same angle as the incident photons are in phase. So they remain!
So why does this not happen at any surface? Well, the above only applies to surfaces with lots of electrons, found in materials where electrons are free - for example metals! Surfaces where all electrons are bound will not absorb the photons immediately - they'll penetrate the first few layers of atoms unhindered until by chance they are absorbed. When a new photon is emitted, it will run into other atoms (it's not at the surface anymore!) and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions. Combine this with the fact that without free electrons it is VERY difficult to smooth a surface, it will give you no chance for a decent (specular) reflection.
TL;DR
Photon energy is absorbed by electron
Energy is emitted by electron in the form of a new photon
Photons that are out of phase with eachother die out
Only photons that are emitted at the same angle as the angle of incidence are in phase
Those remain. (Specular) reflection!
The above only works in materials with lots of free electrons, like metals
1
No they will reflect light, but less so and the reflected light will be diffuse.
– enzolima
22 hours ago
1
See the sentence "...and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions." <= diffuse reflection!
– enzolima
21 hours ago
2
Is the converse true - that anything which provides clear reflections (like perhaps a highly-polished polyurethane-coated wood floor), has lots of free/loosely-held electrons?
– HammerN'Songs
21 hours ago
1
You said that for reflection we need a surface full of free electrons. However reflection also occurs on a surface of water which does not have any free electrons. How does this happen then?
– harshit54
20 hours ago
3
@harshit54 See here: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/210607/… the answer that enzolima gives is a specific case: the case of long wavelength light (relative to the atomic spacing) with metals. And in a crude approximation, a body of water can be treated as a weak conductor, depending on what you want to do with it
– N. Steinle
17 hours ago
|
show 7 more comments
The answer by harshit54 is very concise and clear and gives you answers in multiple layers of understanding. However, to quote Leonardo DiCaprio: we need to go deeper. Not because we must, but because we can! There's a TL;DR below.
A beam of light can be thought of as a stream of energy packets (photons, which are the quanta of light - lots of interesting words to look up in the dictionary already). Now let's zoom in and look at what happens when the photon hits any material. It runs into a wall of atoms - lots of nuclei surrounded by electrons (also energy packets - there's more to it but let's not write out all of quantum mechanics here). When a photon hits an electron, its energy gets absorbed and the electron goes into a higher energy state. This does not last long; the electron left an "empty" energy state below it, which is an energetically more favorable position for it. Thus, there is a chance that it spontaneously jumps back to a lower energy state. This chance increases over time, so it's pretty certain that it will jump back quite quickly. When it does, it needs to get rid of its extra energy. This energy is released as a photon!
If this is the only electron in the neighbourhood that releases a photon, it will go in any random direction. HOWEVER! There's a catch. Hint: this is where the wave nature of light comes into play. Let's assume that the beam of light hits the reflecting surface directly from above, so the angle of incidence is 0 degrees. Now you have many electrons that are being bombarded by even more photons, all emitting photons in many directions. The photons that are emitted at an angle however, will be out of phase with eachother (since there is a distance between the electrons, if two photons are emitted at any angle at the same time, there will be a slight delay between them). Photons that are out of phase will tend to cancel eachother out. Photons that are in phase (all the photons that are emitted upwards) will constructively interfere with eachother.
Now something interesting happens - something that also explains why lasers work. When an electron emits a photon, and there are many photons around it who all have the same phase and direction, the emitted photon will copy the phase and direction of the photons around it! So very quickly, all photons that are emitted in random directions die out and only photons that are emitted perfectly in phase with eachother remain.
Now tilt your light beam at an angle. No longer the photons that are emitted upwards are in phase with eachother, but only the photons that are emitted at the exact same angle as the incident photons are in phase. So they remain!
So why does this not happen at any surface? Well, the above only applies to surfaces with lots of electrons, found in materials where electrons are free - for example metals! Surfaces where all electrons are bound will not absorb the photons immediately - they'll penetrate the first few layers of atoms unhindered until by chance they are absorbed. When a new photon is emitted, it will run into other atoms (it's not at the surface anymore!) and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions. Combine this with the fact that without free electrons it is VERY difficult to smooth a surface, it will give you no chance for a decent (specular) reflection.
TL;DR
Photon energy is absorbed by electron
Energy is emitted by electron in the form of a new photon
Photons that are out of phase with eachother die out
Only photons that are emitted at the same angle as the angle of incidence are in phase
Those remain. (Specular) reflection!
The above only works in materials with lots of free electrons, like metals
1
No they will reflect light, but less so and the reflected light will be diffuse.
– enzolima
22 hours ago
1
See the sentence "...and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions." <= diffuse reflection!
– enzolima
21 hours ago
2
Is the converse true - that anything which provides clear reflections (like perhaps a highly-polished polyurethane-coated wood floor), has lots of free/loosely-held electrons?
– HammerN'Songs
21 hours ago
1
You said that for reflection we need a surface full of free electrons. However reflection also occurs on a surface of water which does not have any free electrons. How does this happen then?
– harshit54
20 hours ago
3
@harshit54 See here: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/210607/… the answer that enzolima gives is a specific case: the case of long wavelength light (relative to the atomic spacing) with metals. And in a crude approximation, a body of water can be treated as a weak conductor, depending on what you want to do with it
– N. Steinle
17 hours ago
|
show 7 more comments
The answer by harshit54 is very concise and clear and gives you answers in multiple layers of understanding. However, to quote Leonardo DiCaprio: we need to go deeper. Not because we must, but because we can! There's a TL;DR below.
A beam of light can be thought of as a stream of energy packets (photons, which are the quanta of light - lots of interesting words to look up in the dictionary already). Now let's zoom in and look at what happens when the photon hits any material. It runs into a wall of atoms - lots of nuclei surrounded by electrons (also energy packets - there's more to it but let's not write out all of quantum mechanics here). When a photon hits an electron, its energy gets absorbed and the electron goes into a higher energy state. This does not last long; the electron left an "empty" energy state below it, which is an energetically more favorable position for it. Thus, there is a chance that it spontaneously jumps back to a lower energy state. This chance increases over time, so it's pretty certain that it will jump back quite quickly. When it does, it needs to get rid of its extra energy. This energy is released as a photon!
If this is the only electron in the neighbourhood that releases a photon, it will go in any random direction. HOWEVER! There's a catch. Hint: this is where the wave nature of light comes into play. Let's assume that the beam of light hits the reflecting surface directly from above, so the angle of incidence is 0 degrees. Now you have many electrons that are being bombarded by even more photons, all emitting photons in many directions. The photons that are emitted at an angle however, will be out of phase with eachother (since there is a distance between the electrons, if two photons are emitted at any angle at the same time, there will be a slight delay between them). Photons that are out of phase will tend to cancel eachother out. Photons that are in phase (all the photons that are emitted upwards) will constructively interfere with eachother.
Now something interesting happens - something that also explains why lasers work. When an electron emits a photon, and there are many photons around it who all have the same phase and direction, the emitted photon will copy the phase and direction of the photons around it! So very quickly, all photons that are emitted in random directions die out and only photons that are emitted perfectly in phase with eachother remain.
Now tilt your light beam at an angle. No longer the photons that are emitted upwards are in phase with eachother, but only the photons that are emitted at the exact same angle as the incident photons are in phase. So they remain!
So why does this not happen at any surface? Well, the above only applies to surfaces with lots of electrons, found in materials where electrons are free - for example metals! Surfaces where all electrons are bound will not absorb the photons immediately - they'll penetrate the first few layers of atoms unhindered until by chance they are absorbed. When a new photon is emitted, it will run into other atoms (it's not at the surface anymore!) and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions. Combine this with the fact that without free electrons it is VERY difficult to smooth a surface, it will give you no chance for a decent (specular) reflection.
TL;DR
Photon energy is absorbed by electron
Energy is emitted by electron in the form of a new photon
Photons that are out of phase with eachother die out
Only photons that are emitted at the same angle as the angle of incidence are in phase
Those remain. (Specular) reflection!
The above only works in materials with lots of free electrons, like metals
The answer by harshit54 is very concise and clear and gives you answers in multiple layers of understanding. However, to quote Leonardo DiCaprio: we need to go deeper. Not because we must, but because we can! There's a TL;DR below.
A beam of light can be thought of as a stream of energy packets (photons, which are the quanta of light - lots of interesting words to look up in the dictionary already). Now let's zoom in and look at what happens when the photon hits any material. It runs into a wall of atoms - lots of nuclei surrounded by electrons (also energy packets - there's more to it but let's not write out all of quantum mechanics here). When a photon hits an electron, its energy gets absorbed and the electron goes into a higher energy state. This does not last long; the electron left an "empty" energy state below it, which is an energetically more favorable position for it. Thus, there is a chance that it spontaneously jumps back to a lower energy state. This chance increases over time, so it's pretty certain that it will jump back quite quickly. When it does, it needs to get rid of its extra energy. This energy is released as a photon!
If this is the only electron in the neighbourhood that releases a photon, it will go in any random direction. HOWEVER! There's a catch. Hint: this is where the wave nature of light comes into play. Let's assume that the beam of light hits the reflecting surface directly from above, so the angle of incidence is 0 degrees. Now you have many electrons that are being bombarded by even more photons, all emitting photons in many directions. The photons that are emitted at an angle however, will be out of phase with eachother (since there is a distance between the electrons, if two photons are emitted at any angle at the same time, there will be a slight delay between them). Photons that are out of phase will tend to cancel eachother out. Photons that are in phase (all the photons that are emitted upwards) will constructively interfere with eachother.
Now something interesting happens - something that also explains why lasers work. When an electron emits a photon, and there are many photons around it who all have the same phase and direction, the emitted photon will copy the phase and direction of the photons around it! So very quickly, all photons that are emitted in random directions die out and only photons that are emitted perfectly in phase with eachother remain.
Now tilt your light beam at an angle. No longer the photons that are emitted upwards are in phase with eachother, but only the photons that are emitted at the exact same angle as the incident photons are in phase. So they remain!
So why does this not happen at any surface? Well, the above only applies to surfaces with lots of electrons, found in materials where electrons are free - for example metals! Surfaces where all electrons are bound will not absorb the photons immediately - they'll penetrate the first few layers of atoms unhindered until by chance they are absorbed. When a new photon is emitted, it will run into other atoms (it's not at the surface anymore!) and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions. Combine this with the fact that without free electrons it is VERY difficult to smooth a surface, it will give you no chance for a decent (specular) reflection.
TL;DR
Photon energy is absorbed by electron
Energy is emitted by electron in the form of a new photon
Photons that are out of phase with eachother die out
Only photons that are emitted at the same angle as the angle of incidence are in phase
Those remain. (Specular) reflection!
The above only works in materials with lots of free electrons, like metals
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No they will reflect light, but less so and the reflected light will be diffuse.
– enzolima
22 hours ago
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See the sentence "...and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions." <= diffuse reflection!
– enzolima
21 hours ago
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Is the converse true - that anything which provides clear reflections (like perhaps a highly-polished polyurethane-coated wood floor), has lots of free/loosely-held electrons?
– HammerN'Songs
21 hours ago
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You said that for reflection we need a surface full of free electrons. However reflection also occurs on a surface of water which does not have any free electrons. How does this happen then?
– harshit54
20 hours ago
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@harshit54 See here: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/210607/… the answer that enzolima gives is a specific case: the case of long wavelength light (relative to the atomic spacing) with metals. And in a crude approximation, a body of water can be treated as a weak conductor, depending on what you want to do with it
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No they will reflect light, but less so and the reflected light will be diffuse.
– enzolima
22 hours ago
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See the sentence "...and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions." <= diffuse reflection!
– enzolima
21 hours ago
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Is the converse true - that anything which provides clear reflections (like perhaps a highly-polished polyurethane-coated wood floor), has lots of free/loosely-held electrons?
– HammerN'Songs
21 hours ago
1
You said that for reflection we need a surface full of free electrons. However reflection also occurs on a surface of water which does not have any free electrons. How does this happen then?
– harshit54
20 hours ago
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@harshit54 See here: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/210607/… the answer that enzolima gives is a specific case: the case of long wavelength light (relative to the atomic spacing) with metals. And in a crude approximation, a body of water can be treated as a weak conductor, depending on what you want to do with it
– N. Steinle
17 hours ago
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No they will reflect light, but less so and the reflected light will be diffuse.
– enzolima
22 hours ago
No they will reflect light, but less so and the reflected light will be diffuse.
– enzolima
22 hours ago
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1
See the sentence "...and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions." <= diffuse reflection!
– enzolima
21 hours ago
See the sentence "...and keep the reaction going until at the surface, photons are reflected in random directions." <= diffuse reflection!
– enzolima
21 hours ago
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2
Is the converse true - that anything which provides clear reflections (like perhaps a highly-polished polyurethane-coated wood floor), has lots of free/loosely-held electrons?
– HammerN'Songs
21 hours ago
Is the converse true - that anything which provides clear reflections (like perhaps a highly-polished polyurethane-coated wood floor), has lots of free/loosely-held electrons?
– HammerN'Songs
21 hours ago
1
1
You said that for reflection we need a surface full of free electrons. However reflection also occurs on a surface of water which does not have any free electrons. How does this happen then?
– harshit54
20 hours ago
You said that for reflection we need a surface full of free electrons. However reflection also occurs on a surface of water which does not have any free electrons. How does this happen then?
– harshit54
20 hours ago
3
3
@harshit54 See here: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/210607/… the answer that enzolima gives is a specific case: the case of long wavelength light (relative to the atomic spacing) with metals. And in a crude approximation, a body of water can be treated as a weak conductor, depending on what you want to do with it
– N. Steinle
17 hours ago
@harshit54 See here: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/210607/… the answer that enzolima gives is a specific case: the case of long wavelength light (relative to the atomic spacing) with metals. And in a crude approximation, a body of water can be treated as a weak conductor, depending on what you want to do with it
– N. Steinle
17 hours ago
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Well this can be proven in many ways. If you think of light as waves, then use Huygen's Principle.
A much easier proof can also be developed if you consider light as rays propagating in a line. For this we can use Fermat's Principle.
However if you think of light as particles then a much more intuitive proof can be created by considering a ball being hit on the ground. The part of its velocity parallel to the ground will not change (due to conservation of linear momentum) and the part perpendicular to the ground will flip(assuming an Elastic Collision).
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It might be worth mentioning that the reason the velocity doesn't change (for both the ball and the photon) is that this is the only solution that conserves both energy and momentum.
– Harry Johnston
17 hours ago
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Well this can be proven in many ways. If you think of light as waves, then use Huygen's Principle.
A much easier proof can also be developed if you consider light as rays propagating in a line. For this we can use Fermat's Principle.
However if you think of light as particles then a much more intuitive proof can be created by considering a ball being hit on the ground. The part of its velocity parallel to the ground will not change (due to conservation of linear momentum) and the part perpendicular to the ground will flip(assuming an Elastic Collision).
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It might be worth mentioning that the reason the velocity doesn't change (for both the ball and the photon) is that this is the only solution that conserves both energy and momentum.
– Harry Johnston
17 hours ago
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Well this can be proven in many ways. If you think of light as waves, then use Huygen's Principle.
A much easier proof can also be developed if you consider light as rays propagating in a line. For this we can use Fermat's Principle.
However if you think of light as particles then a much more intuitive proof can be created by considering a ball being hit on the ground. The part of its velocity parallel to the ground will not change (due to conservation of linear momentum) and the part perpendicular to the ground will flip(assuming an Elastic Collision).
Well this can be proven in many ways. If you think of light as waves, then use Huygen's Principle.
A much easier proof can also be developed if you consider light as rays propagating in a line. For this we can use Fermat's Principle.
However if you think of light as particles then a much more intuitive proof can be created by considering a ball being hit on the ground. The part of its velocity parallel to the ground will not change (due to conservation of linear momentum) and the part perpendicular to the ground will flip(assuming an Elastic Collision).
edited 16 hours ago
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harshit54
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It might be worth mentioning that the reason the velocity doesn't change (for both the ball and the photon) is that this is the only solution that conserves both energy and momentum.
– Harry Johnston
17 hours ago
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It might be worth mentioning that the reason the velocity doesn't change (for both the ball and the photon) is that this is the only solution that conserves both energy and momentum.
– Harry Johnston
17 hours ago
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4
It might be worth mentioning that the reason the velocity doesn't change (for both the ball and the photon) is that this is the only solution that conserves both energy and momentum.
– Harry Johnston
17 hours ago
It might be worth mentioning that the reason the velocity doesn't change (for both the ball and the photon) is that this is the only solution that conserves both energy and momentum.
– Harry Johnston
17 hours ago
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This is beautifully explained by Feynman using his path integrals.
I cannot hope to do it better, but just a quick non-mathematical overview.
What is mind-blowing about the theory is that you assume that individual photon (on quantum electrodynamics level) is actually "reflected" in each possible direction by each atom of the mirror surface. If you calculate how all these "reflections" interfere with each other, you will see that it wouldn't result in chaos, because most of them tend to silence each other, except for one output angle. The silencing is because depending on timing of each possible path, the phases can be opposite at a place. According to the theory it means that the photon wouldn't probably appear there. What is great about it, is that "summing" (integrating) the phases of all these zillions paths doesn't require a supercomputer, but can be done in few minutes by drawing small pictures on a blackboard - see the video.
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This is beautifully explained by Feynman using his path integrals.
I cannot hope to do it better, but just a quick non-mathematical overview.
What is mind-blowing about the theory is that you assume that individual photon (on quantum electrodynamics level) is actually "reflected" in each possible direction by each atom of the mirror surface. If you calculate how all these "reflections" interfere with each other, you will see that it wouldn't result in chaos, because most of them tend to silence each other, except for one output angle. The silencing is because depending on timing of each possible path, the phases can be opposite at a place. According to the theory it means that the photon wouldn't probably appear there. What is great about it, is that "summing" (integrating) the phases of all these zillions paths doesn't require a supercomputer, but can be done in few minutes by drawing small pictures on a blackboard - see the video.
add a comment |
This is beautifully explained by Feynman using his path integrals.
I cannot hope to do it better, but just a quick non-mathematical overview.
What is mind-blowing about the theory is that you assume that individual photon (on quantum electrodynamics level) is actually "reflected" in each possible direction by each atom of the mirror surface. If you calculate how all these "reflections" interfere with each other, you will see that it wouldn't result in chaos, because most of them tend to silence each other, except for one output angle. The silencing is because depending on timing of each possible path, the phases can be opposite at a place. According to the theory it means that the photon wouldn't probably appear there. What is great about it, is that "summing" (integrating) the phases of all these zillions paths doesn't require a supercomputer, but can be done in few minutes by drawing small pictures on a blackboard - see the video.
This is beautifully explained by Feynman using his path integrals.
I cannot hope to do it better, but just a quick non-mathematical overview.
What is mind-blowing about the theory is that you assume that individual photon (on quantum electrodynamics level) is actually "reflected" in each possible direction by each atom of the mirror surface. If you calculate how all these "reflections" interfere with each other, you will see that it wouldn't result in chaos, because most of them tend to silence each other, except for one output angle. The silencing is because depending on timing of each possible path, the phases can be opposite at a place. According to the theory it means that the photon wouldn't probably appear there. What is great about it, is that "summing" (integrating) the phases of all these zillions paths doesn't require a supercomputer, but can be done in few minutes by drawing small pictures on a blackboard - see the video.
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It is not necessarily true. A counterexample would be the thought experiment of internal reflection at the surface of a magnetic material, when incident and reflected waves experience different indices of refraction because of magnetic circular birefringence. I think MP Silverman wrote about it, but I cannot find a reference now.
In magneto-optics, one cannot assume Helmholtz reciprocity and reversibility of the rays. ("If I can see you, you can see me.")
The reason for this is that time reversal would also reverse the direction of electrical currents (in coils) and the direction of magnetic fields.
So the basic reason for the law of reflection is symmetry, the time reversibility of the light rays.
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It is not necessarily true. A counterexample would be the thought experiment of internal reflection at the surface of a magnetic material, when incident and reflected waves experience different indices of refraction because of magnetic circular birefringence. I think MP Silverman wrote about it, but I cannot find a reference now.
In magneto-optics, one cannot assume Helmholtz reciprocity and reversibility of the rays. ("If I can see you, you can see me.")
The reason for this is that time reversal would also reverse the direction of electrical currents (in coils) and the direction of magnetic fields.
So the basic reason for the law of reflection is symmetry, the time reversibility of the light rays.
add a comment |
It is not necessarily true. A counterexample would be the thought experiment of internal reflection at the surface of a magnetic material, when incident and reflected waves experience different indices of refraction because of magnetic circular birefringence. I think MP Silverman wrote about it, but I cannot find a reference now.
In magneto-optics, one cannot assume Helmholtz reciprocity and reversibility of the rays. ("If I can see you, you can see me.")
The reason for this is that time reversal would also reverse the direction of electrical currents (in coils) and the direction of magnetic fields.
So the basic reason for the law of reflection is symmetry, the time reversibility of the light rays.
It is not necessarily true. A counterexample would be the thought experiment of internal reflection at the surface of a magnetic material, when incident and reflected waves experience different indices of refraction because of magnetic circular birefringence. I think MP Silverman wrote about it, but I cannot find a reference now.
In magneto-optics, one cannot assume Helmholtz reciprocity and reversibility of the rays. ("If I can see you, you can see me.")
The reason for this is that time reversal would also reverse the direction of electrical currents (in coils) and the direction of magnetic fields.
So the basic reason for the law of reflection is symmetry, the time reversibility of the light rays.
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Pieter
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This actually follows from the continuity relations of Maxwell’s equations at the interface of two media: the component of the field tangential to the surface must be the same by $ointvec Ecdot dvec ell=0$ while the normal component will have a discontinuity found by Gauss’ law and related to the net surface charge density at the interface.
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This actually follows from the continuity relations of Maxwell’s equations at the interface of two media: the component of the field tangential to the surface must be the same by $ointvec Ecdot dvec ell=0$ while the normal component will have a discontinuity found by Gauss’ law and related to the net surface charge density at the interface.
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This actually follows from the continuity relations of Maxwell’s equations at the interface of two media: the component of the field tangential to the surface must be the same by $ointvec Ecdot dvec ell=0$ while the normal component will have a discontinuity found by Gauss’ law and related to the net surface charge density at the interface.
This actually follows from the continuity relations of Maxwell’s equations at the interface of two media: the component of the field tangential to the surface must be the same by $ointvec Ecdot dvec ell=0$ while the normal component will have a discontinuity found by Gauss’ law and related to the net surface charge density at the interface.
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As others have pointed out, you can look at this from ray optics (Fermat's principle), wave optics (consequence of phase matching from boundary conditions for the wave equation at an interface), or more complicated QM approaches.
There was a counterexample mentioned above that I wanted to add to - all you need is a common birefringent crystal (e.g. calcite). For a ray leaving the crystal through a face at some nonzero angle of incidence, there will be refraction out of the crystal as well as reflection at some angle. If your crystal axis is oriented appropriately, the reflected ray will see a different index than the incident ray, changing the reflected angle to be different than the incident angle. This is all just the consequence of phasematching at the interface.
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As others have pointed out, you can look at this from ray optics (Fermat's principle), wave optics (consequence of phase matching from boundary conditions for the wave equation at an interface), or more complicated QM approaches.
There was a counterexample mentioned above that I wanted to add to - all you need is a common birefringent crystal (e.g. calcite). For a ray leaving the crystal through a face at some nonzero angle of incidence, there will be refraction out of the crystal as well as reflection at some angle. If your crystal axis is oriented appropriately, the reflected ray will see a different index than the incident ray, changing the reflected angle to be different than the incident angle. This is all just the consequence of phasematching at the interface.
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As others have pointed out, you can look at this from ray optics (Fermat's principle), wave optics (consequence of phase matching from boundary conditions for the wave equation at an interface), or more complicated QM approaches.
There was a counterexample mentioned above that I wanted to add to - all you need is a common birefringent crystal (e.g. calcite). For a ray leaving the crystal through a face at some nonzero angle of incidence, there will be refraction out of the crystal as well as reflection at some angle. If your crystal axis is oriented appropriately, the reflected ray will see a different index than the incident ray, changing the reflected angle to be different than the incident angle. This is all just the consequence of phasematching at the interface.
As others have pointed out, you can look at this from ray optics (Fermat's principle), wave optics (consequence of phase matching from boundary conditions for the wave equation at an interface), or more complicated QM approaches.
There was a counterexample mentioned above that I wanted to add to - all you need is a common birefringent crystal (e.g. calcite). For a ray leaving the crystal through a face at some nonzero angle of incidence, there will be refraction out of the crystal as well as reflection at some angle. If your crystal axis is oriented appropriately, the reflected ray will see a different index than the incident ray, changing the reflected angle to be different than the incident angle. This is all just the consequence of phasematching at the interface.
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Snell's law expresses that for a perfectly plane reflecting interface the momentum parallel to the plane is conserved.
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Snell's law expresses that for a perfectly plane reflecting interface the momentum parallel to the plane is conserved.
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Snell's law expresses that for a perfectly plane reflecting interface the momentum parallel to the plane is conserved.
Snell's law expresses that for a perfectly plane reflecting interface the momentum parallel to the plane is conserved.
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It is mostly due to a perfect plane of the reflecting surface. If the surface is not plane, but wavy, you will have a "diffusion" rather than a reflection to some certain angle.
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The math behind the proofs linked in the above comments is somewhat straightforward; I'm not sure you're saying what you mean with 'prove this (mathematically)'. It's more likely that you're hoping for a derivation from first principles and fundamental characteristics of light and matter; wording which suggests the same would be helpful.
– Chair
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This question is completely outside the realm of science, so I suggest to rephrase it. Science doesn't ever question "is XYZ true?" or "why is XYZ true?". Science doesn't ever prove an experimental result. Science uses experimental results and thinking as two inputs in order to produce its output: to predict future experimental results. That's it. If "math" stops working one day, science will probably trash it and look for other tools - but the light will still reflect the old way.
– kubanczyk
21 hours ago
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Chapter 2 in Feynman’s QED book talks about the Law of Reflection. It’s interesting how time of travel plays a role.
– Lambda
21 hours ago