Multi-variable extremisation problem when pure substitution fails to deliver all solutions












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I have always thought that pure, equality substitution was one of the methods in mathematics which is always guaranteed to work. Yet I appear to have found a case when it fails and if somebody here can help me understand it I would be very thankful.





Find and classify the critical points of the following functions subject to equality constraints:
$$f(x,y) = x^2 - y^2 $$
$$ x^2 + y^2 = 1 $$





Performing a Lagrangian we have:
$$mathcal{L} = x^2 - y^2 -lambda(x^2+y^2-1) $$
FOC:



$ 2x -2lambda x = 0 $



$ -2y - 2lambda y = 0 $



$x^2 + y^2 = 1 $



By pure observation solutions are:
(x,y,$lambda$) = { (1,0,1), (-1,0,1), (0,1,-1), (0,-1,-1) }



However, in this case one would be tempted to use substitution, so that the problem becomes:
$$f(x) = x^2 + (x^2-1) = 2x^2 -1 $$
giving $$f'(x) = 4x = 0 $$
Hence this substitution only leads to (x,y,$lambda$) = {(0,1,-1), (0,-1,-1) }, missing out two of the solutions! Performing the reverse substitution gives the other two.





Why is it that substitution doesn't work fully?













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    I have always thought that pure, equality substitution was one of the methods in mathematics which is always guaranteed to work. Yet I appear to have found a case when it fails and if somebody here can help me understand it I would be very thankful.





    Find and classify the critical points of the following functions subject to equality constraints:
    $$f(x,y) = x^2 - y^2 $$
    $$ x^2 + y^2 = 1 $$





    Performing a Lagrangian we have:
    $$mathcal{L} = x^2 - y^2 -lambda(x^2+y^2-1) $$
    FOC:



    $ 2x -2lambda x = 0 $



    $ -2y - 2lambda y = 0 $



    $x^2 + y^2 = 1 $



    By pure observation solutions are:
    (x,y,$lambda$) = { (1,0,1), (-1,0,1), (0,1,-1), (0,-1,-1) }



    However, in this case one would be tempted to use substitution, so that the problem becomes:
    $$f(x) = x^2 + (x^2-1) = 2x^2 -1 $$
    giving $$f'(x) = 4x = 0 $$
    Hence this substitution only leads to (x,y,$lambda$) = {(0,1,-1), (0,-1,-1) }, missing out two of the solutions! Performing the reverse substitution gives the other two.





    Why is it that substitution doesn't work fully?













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      I have always thought that pure, equality substitution was one of the methods in mathematics which is always guaranteed to work. Yet I appear to have found a case when it fails and if somebody here can help me understand it I would be very thankful.





      Find and classify the critical points of the following functions subject to equality constraints:
      $$f(x,y) = x^2 - y^2 $$
      $$ x^2 + y^2 = 1 $$





      Performing a Lagrangian we have:
      $$mathcal{L} = x^2 - y^2 -lambda(x^2+y^2-1) $$
      FOC:



      $ 2x -2lambda x = 0 $



      $ -2y - 2lambda y = 0 $



      $x^2 + y^2 = 1 $



      By pure observation solutions are:
      (x,y,$lambda$) = { (1,0,1), (-1,0,1), (0,1,-1), (0,-1,-1) }



      However, in this case one would be tempted to use substitution, so that the problem becomes:
      $$f(x) = x^2 + (x^2-1) = 2x^2 -1 $$
      giving $$f'(x) = 4x = 0 $$
      Hence this substitution only leads to (x,y,$lambda$) = {(0,1,-1), (0,-1,-1) }, missing out two of the solutions! Performing the reverse substitution gives the other two.





      Why is it that substitution doesn't work fully?













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      I have always thought that pure, equality substitution was one of the methods in mathematics which is always guaranteed to work. Yet I appear to have found a case when it fails and if somebody here can help me understand it I would be very thankful.





      Find and classify the critical points of the following functions subject to equality constraints:
      $$f(x,y) = x^2 - y^2 $$
      $$ x^2 + y^2 = 1 $$





      Performing a Lagrangian we have:
      $$mathcal{L} = x^2 - y^2 -lambda(x^2+y^2-1) $$
      FOC:



      $ 2x -2lambda x = 0 $



      $ -2y - 2lambda y = 0 $



      $x^2 + y^2 = 1 $



      By pure observation solutions are:
      (x,y,$lambda$) = { (1,0,1), (-1,0,1), (0,1,-1), (0,-1,-1) }



      However, in this case one would be tempted to use substitution, so that the problem becomes:
      $$f(x) = x^2 + (x^2-1) = 2x^2 -1 $$
      giving $$f'(x) = 4x = 0 $$
      Hence this substitution only leads to (x,y,$lambda$) = {(0,1,-1), (0,-1,-1) }, missing out two of the solutions! Performing the reverse substitution gives the other two.





      Why is it that substitution doesn't work fully?










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