Arbitrary area function
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If I wish to express the area of any closed curve in $R^2$ as a function, is there a more efficient way to do so than to use integrals. I ask this because, in the case where this closed curve is something like the one below:
Then I feel as if it would simply be too cumbersome to describe the area of this curve using the antiderivatives of it's piecewise functions. So, is it formally acceptable to simply define an area function for such a closed, simple curve using the function $A: C rightarrow R$. If it is formally acceptable to define such a function, then can this function be assumed to be continuous (when $C$ is continuous)?
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If I wish to express the area of any closed curve in $R^2$ as a function, is there a more efficient way to do so than to use integrals. I ask this because, in the case where this closed curve is something like the one below:
Then I feel as if it would simply be too cumbersome to describe the area of this curve using the antiderivatives of it's piecewise functions. So, is it formally acceptable to simply define an area function for such a closed, simple curve using the function $A: C rightarrow R$. If it is formally acceptable to define such a function, then can this function be assumed to be continuous (when $C$ is continuous)?
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I think to define continuity of $A$ you need to define what an arbitrarily small change in $C$ means—continuity of $A$ is the ability to make $A(C)$ change by as small an amount aa we like by making a small enough change to $C$.
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If I wish to express the area of any closed curve in $R^2$ as a function, is there a more efficient way to do so than to use integrals. I ask this because, in the case where this closed curve is something like the one below:
Then I feel as if it would simply be too cumbersome to describe the area of this curve using the antiderivatives of it's piecewise functions. So, is it formally acceptable to simply define an area function for such a closed, simple curve using the function $A: C rightarrow R$. If it is formally acceptable to define such a function, then can this function be assumed to be continuous (when $C$ is continuous)?
calculus geometry convention
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If I wish to express the area of any closed curve in $R^2$ as a function, is there a more efficient way to do so than to use integrals. I ask this because, in the case where this closed curve is something like the one below:
Then I feel as if it would simply be too cumbersome to describe the area of this curve using the antiderivatives of it's piecewise functions. So, is it formally acceptable to simply define an area function for such a closed, simple curve using the function $A: C rightarrow R$. If it is formally acceptable to define such a function, then can this function be assumed to be continuous (when $C$ is continuous)?
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asked Jan 7 at 18:29
Aryaman GuptaAryaman Gupta
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I think to define continuity of $A$ you need to define what an arbitrarily small change in $C$ means—continuity of $A$ is the ability to make $A(C)$ change by as small an amount aa we like by making a small enough change to $C$.
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– timtfj
Jan 7 at 19:09
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I think to define continuity of $A$ you need to define what an arbitrarily small change in $C$ means—continuity of $A$ is the ability to make $A(C)$ change by as small an amount aa we like by making a small enough change to $C$.
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– timtfj
Jan 7 at 19:09
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I think to define continuity of $A$ you need to define what an arbitrarily small change in $C$ means—continuity of $A$ is the ability to make $A(C)$ change by as small an amount aa we like by making a small enough change to $C$.
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– timtfj
Jan 7 at 19:09
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I think to define continuity of $A$ you need to define what an arbitrarily small change in $C$ means—continuity of $A$ is the ability to make $A(C)$ change by as small an amount aa we like by making a small enough change to $C$.
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Jan 7 at 19:09
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There are various theorems and formulas of this kind, e.g., the following: If
$$gamma:quad tmapsto gamma(t)=bigl(x(t),y(t)bigr)qquad(0leq tleq T)$$
is a simply closed curve in the $(x,y)$-plane that bounds a certain shape $Omegasubset{mathbb R}^2$ counterclockwise then
$${rm area}(Omega)=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt ,tag{1}$$
or
$${rm area}(Omega)={1over2}int_0^T bigl(x(t),y'(t)-x'(t),y(t)bigr)>dt .$$
In order to prove $(1)$ one applies Green's theorem to the vector field ${bf F}(x,y):=(0,x)$. This field has ${rm curl}({bf F})=Q_x-P_yequiv1$. It follows that
$$eqalign{{rm area}(Omega)&=int_Omega 1>{rm d}(x,y)=int_Omega {rm curl}({bf F})>{rm d}(x,y)cr &=int_{partialOmega}{bf F}({bf z})cdot d{bf z}=int_{partial Omega}{bf F}bigl(gamma(t)bigr)cdotgamma'(t)>dtcr &=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt .cr}$$
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Could you please tell me the name of this theorem?
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There are various theorems and formulas of this kind, e.g., the following: If
$$gamma:quad tmapsto gamma(t)=bigl(x(t),y(t)bigr)qquad(0leq tleq T)$$
is a simply closed curve in the $(x,y)$-plane that bounds a certain shape $Omegasubset{mathbb R}^2$ counterclockwise then
$${rm area}(Omega)=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt ,tag{1}$$
or
$${rm area}(Omega)={1over2}int_0^T bigl(x(t),y'(t)-x'(t),y(t)bigr)>dt .$$
In order to prove $(1)$ one applies Green's theorem to the vector field ${bf F}(x,y):=(0,x)$. This field has ${rm curl}({bf F})=Q_x-P_yequiv1$. It follows that
$$eqalign{{rm area}(Omega)&=int_Omega 1>{rm d}(x,y)=int_Omega {rm curl}({bf F})>{rm d}(x,y)cr &=int_{partialOmega}{bf F}({bf z})cdot d{bf z}=int_{partial Omega}{bf F}bigl(gamma(t)bigr)cdotgamma'(t)>dtcr &=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt .cr}$$
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Could you please tell me the name of this theorem?
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– Aryaman Gupta
Jan 7 at 19:09
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There are various theorems and formulas of this kind, e.g., the following: If
$$gamma:quad tmapsto gamma(t)=bigl(x(t),y(t)bigr)qquad(0leq tleq T)$$
is a simply closed curve in the $(x,y)$-plane that bounds a certain shape $Omegasubset{mathbb R}^2$ counterclockwise then
$${rm area}(Omega)=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt ,tag{1}$$
or
$${rm area}(Omega)={1over2}int_0^T bigl(x(t),y'(t)-x'(t),y(t)bigr)>dt .$$
In order to prove $(1)$ one applies Green's theorem to the vector field ${bf F}(x,y):=(0,x)$. This field has ${rm curl}({bf F})=Q_x-P_yequiv1$. It follows that
$$eqalign{{rm area}(Omega)&=int_Omega 1>{rm d}(x,y)=int_Omega {rm curl}({bf F})>{rm d}(x,y)cr &=int_{partialOmega}{bf F}({bf z})cdot d{bf z}=int_{partial Omega}{bf F}bigl(gamma(t)bigr)cdotgamma'(t)>dtcr &=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt .cr}$$
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Could you please tell me the name of this theorem?
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– Aryaman Gupta
Jan 7 at 19:09
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There are various theorems and formulas of this kind, e.g., the following: If
$$gamma:quad tmapsto gamma(t)=bigl(x(t),y(t)bigr)qquad(0leq tleq T)$$
is a simply closed curve in the $(x,y)$-plane that bounds a certain shape $Omegasubset{mathbb R}^2$ counterclockwise then
$${rm area}(Omega)=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt ,tag{1}$$
or
$${rm area}(Omega)={1over2}int_0^T bigl(x(t),y'(t)-x'(t),y(t)bigr)>dt .$$
In order to prove $(1)$ one applies Green's theorem to the vector field ${bf F}(x,y):=(0,x)$. This field has ${rm curl}({bf F})=Q_x-P_yequiv1$. It follows that
$$eqalign{{rm area}(Omega)&=int_Omega 1>{rm d}(x,y)=int_Omega {rm curl}({bf F})>{rm d}(x,y)cr &=int_{partialOmega}{bf F}({bf z})cdot d{bf z}=int_{partial Omega}{bf F}bigl(gamma(t)bigr)cdotgamma'(t)>dtcr &=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt .cr}$$
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There are various theorems and formulas of this kind, e.g., the following: If
$$gamma:quad tmapsto gamma(t)=bigl(x(t),y(t)bigr)qquad(0leq tleq T)$$
is a simply closed curve in the $(x,y)$-plane that bounds a certain shape $Omegasubset{mathbb R}^2$ counterclockwise then
$${rm area}(Omega)=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt ,tag{1}$$
or
$${rm area}(Omega)={1over2}int_0^T bigl(x(t),y'(t)-x'(t),y(t)bigr)>dt .$$
In order to prove $(1)$ one applies Green's theorem to the vector field ${bf F}(x,y):=(0,x)$. This field has ${rm curl}({bf F})=Q_x-P_yequiv1$. It follows that
$$eqalign{{rm area}(Omega)&=int_Omega 1>{rm d}(x,y)=int_Omega {rm curl}({bf F})>{rm d}(x,y)cr &=int_{partialOmega}{bf F}({bf z})cdot d{bf z}=int_{partial Omega}{bf F}bigl(gamma(t)bigr)cdotgamma'(t)>dtcr &=int_0^T x(t),y'(t)>dt .cr}$$
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answered Jan 7 at 19:02
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Could you please tell me the name of this theorem?
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Could you please tell me the name of this theorem?
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Could you please tell me the name of this theorem?
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Could you please tell me the name of this theorem?
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I think to define continuity of $A$ you need to define what an arbitrarily small change in $C$ means—continuity of $A$ is the ability to make $A(C)$ change by as small an amount aa we like by making a small enough change to $C$.
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