Random walk. Finding probabilities $P_{2k,4}$ and $P_{2k,8}$












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Suppose that $x_1, x_2,...$ are independent copies of random variable $xi$ having distribution $P(x=1)=P(x=-1)=frac{1}{2}.$ Let $S_0=0$, $S_k=x_1+x_2+...+x_k$, $k geq1.$ Let $P_{2k,2n}$ be the probability that during the time interval $[0,2n]$ the particle spends $2k$ units of time on the positive side.



1) Find all possible probabilities $P_{2k,4}$ using only definition.



2) Find all possible probabilities $P_{2k,8}$ using formula $$ P_{2k,2n}=u_{2k}*u_{2n-2k}.$$



So, problem is that I don't know what I have to do in 1). Maybe only then I can do also 2). So how to start and what to use in 1)?










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    What is denoted by $u_{2k}$?
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    – drhab
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    It is formula from Shiryaev's Probability book page 100 (second edition)
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    – Atstovas
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    That does not answer my question. I have no disposal over the book.
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    $u_{2k}=binom{2k}{k}*2^{-2k}$
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    – Atstovas
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Suppose that $x_1, x_2,...$ are independent copies of random variable $xi$ having distribution $P(x=1)=P(x=-1)=frac{1}{2}.$ Let $S_0=0$, $S_k=x_1+x_2+...+x_k$, $k geq1.$ Let $P_{2k,2n}$ be the probability that during the time interval $[0,2n]$ the particle spends $2k$ units of time on the positive side.



1) Find all possible probabilities $P_{2k,4}$ using only definition.



2) Find all possible probabilities $P_{2k,8}$ using formula $$ P_{2k,2n}=u_{2k}*u_{2n-2k}.$$



So, problem is that I don't know what I have to do in 1). Maybe only then I can do also 2). So how to start and what to use in 1)?










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  • $begingroup$
    What is denoted by $u_{2k}$?
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 10 at 10:03










  • $begingroup$
    It is formula from Shiryaev's Probability book page 100 (second edition)
    $endgroup$
    – Atstovas
    Jan 10 at 10:13










  • $begingroup$
    That does not answer my question. I have no disposal over the book.
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 10 at 10:21










  • $begingroup$
    $u_{2k}=binom{2k}{k}*2^{-2k}$
    $endgroup$
    – Atstovas
    Jan 10 at 10:26
















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Suppose that $x_1, x_2,...$ are independent copies of random variable $xi$ having distribution $P(x=1)=P(x=-1)=frac{1}{2}.$ Let $S_0=0$, $S_k=x_1+x_2+...+x_k$, $k geq1.$ Let $P_{2k,2n}$ be the probability that during the time interval $[0,2n]$ the particle spends $2k$ units of time on the positive side.



1) Find all possible probabilities $P_{2k,4}$ using only definition.



2) Find all possible probabilities $P_{2k,8}$ using formula $$ P_{2k,2n}=u_{2k}*u_{2n-2k}.$$



So, problem is that I don't know what I have to do in 1). Maybe only then I can do also 2). So how to start and what to use in 1)?










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Suppose that $x_1, x_2,...$ are independent copies of random variable $xi$ having distribution $P(x=1)=P(x=-1)=frac{1}{2}.$ Let $S_0=0$, $S_k=x_1+x_2+...+x_k$, $k geq1.$ Let $P_{2k,2n}$ be the probability that during the time interval $[0,2n]$ the particle spends $2k$ units of time on the positive side.



1) Find all possible probabilities $P_{2k,4}$ using only definition.



2) Find all possible probabilities $P_{2k,8}$ using formula $$ P_{2k,2n}=u_{2k}*u_{2n-2k}.$$



So, problem is that I don't know what I have to do in 1). Maybe only then I can do also 2). So how to start and what to use in 1)?







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  • $begingroup$
    What is denoted by $u_{2k}$?
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 10 at 10:03










  • $begingroup$
    It is formula from Shiryaev's Probability book page 100 (second edition)
    $endgroup$
    – Atstovas
    Jan 10 at 10:13










  • $begingroup$
    That does not answer my question. I have no disposal over the book.
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 10 at 10:21










  • $begingroup$
    $u_{2k}=binom{2k}{k}*2^{-2k}$
    $endgroup$
    – Atstovas
    Jan 10 at 10:26




















  • $begingroup$
    What is denoted by $u_{2k}$?
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 10 at 10:03










  • $begingroup$
    It is formula from Shiryaev's Probability book page 100 (second edition)
    $endgroup$
    – Atstovas
    Jan 10 at 10:13










  • $begingroup$
    That does not answer my question. I have no disposal over the book.
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 10 at 10:21










  • $begingroup$
    $u_{2k}=binom{2k}{k}*2^{-2k}$
    $endgroup$
    – Atstovas
    Jan 10 at 10:26


















$begingroup$
What is denoted by $u_{2k}$?
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– drhab
Jan 10 at 10:03




$begingroup$
What is denoted by $u_{2k}$?
$endgroup$
– drhab
Jan 10 at 10:03












$begingroup$
It is formula from Shiryaev's Probability book page 100 (second edition)
$endgroup$
– Atstovas
Jan 10 at 10:13




$begingroup$
It is formula from Shiryaev's Probability book page 100 (second edition)
$endgroup$
– Atstovas
Jan 10 at 10:13












$begingroup$
That does not answer my question. I have no disposal over the book.
$endgroup$
– drhab
Jan 10 at 10:21




$begingroup$
That does not answer my question. I have no disposal over the book.
$endgroup$
– drhab
Jan 10 at 10:21












$begingroup$
$u_{2k}=binom{2k}{k}*2^{-2k}$
$endgroup$
– Atstovas
Jan 10 at 10:26






$begingroup$
$u_{2k}=binom{2k}{k}*2^{-2k}$
$endgroup$
– Atstovas
Jan 10 at 10:26












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In time interval $[0,4]$ there are $2^4=16$ routes that can be taken. The routes are equiprobable.



Now you must pose yourself the question: "how many of these routes are such that the particle spends $2k$ units of time on the positive axis?" This for $k=0$, $k=1$ and $k=2$. It is just a matter of counting.



If there are $m_k$ such routes then: $$P_{2k,4}=frac{m_k}{2^4}=frac{m_k}{16}$$






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    In time interval $[0,4]$ there are $2^4=16$ routes that can be taken. The routes are equiprobable.



    Now you must pose yourself the question: "how many of these routes are such that the particle spends $2k$ units of time on the positive axis?" This for $k=0$, $k=1$ and $k=2$. It is just a matter of counting.



    If there are $m_k$ such routes then: $$P_{2k,4}=frac{m_k}{2^4}=frac{m_k}{16}$$






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      In time interval $[0,4]$ there are $2^4=16$ routes that can be taken. The routes are equiprobable.



      Now you must pose yourself the question: "how many of these routes are such that the particle spends $2k$ units of time on the positive axis?" This for $k=0$, $k=1$ and $k=2$. It is just a matter of counting.



      If there are $m_k$ such routes then: $$P_{2k,4}=frac{m_k}{2^4}=frac{m_k}{16}$$






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        In time interval $[0,4]$ there are $2^4=16$ routes that can be taken. The routes are equiprobable.



        Now you must pose yourself the question: "how many of these routes are such that the particle spends $2k$ units of time on the positive axis?" This for $k=0$, $k=1$ and $k=2$. It is just a matter of counting.



        If there are $m_k$ such routes then: $$P_{2k,4}=frac{m_k}{2^4}=frac{m_k}{16}$$






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        In time interval $[0,4]$ there are $2^4=16$ routes that can be taken. The routes are equiprobable.



        Now you must pose yourself the question: "how many of these routes are such that the particle spends $2k$ units of time on the positive axis?" This for $k=0$, $k=1$ and $k=2$. It is just a matter of counting.



        If there are $m_k$ such routes then: $$P_{2k,4}=frac{m_k}{2^4}=frac{m_k}{16}$$







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