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the problem is: Is the function $phi(f)=frac{sqrt{f}}{2}cdotlog f$ for $fin L^2(mathbb{R}_{>0})$ convex or concave.
My idee or presumption is, that the function $phi$ is concave, because we have the inequalitiy[sqrt{alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g}geq alphacdot sqrt{f}+(1-alpha)cdotsqrt{g}quadtext{for}~alphain(0,1).]










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    How do you define convexity of $phi$?
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    We call a map convex, if [phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)leq alphacdot phi(f)+(1-alpha)cdot phi(f)] for $alphain (0,1)$
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    But $phi( something )$ is a function. Is $ge$ to be understood pointwise?
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    Sorry, the correct definition is $phi(f(x)).$ f is also a map.
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the problem is: Is the function $phi(f)=frac{sqrt{f}}{2}cdotlog f$ for $fin L^2(mathbb{R}_{>0})$ convex or concave.
My idee or presumption is, that the function $phi$ is concave, because we have the inequalitiy[sqrt{alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g}geq alphacdot sqrt{f}+(1-alpha)cdotsqrt{g}quadtext{for}~alphain(0,1).]










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    How do you define convexity of $phi$?
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    – gerw
    Jan 22 at 15:20










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    We call a map convex, if [phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)leq alphacdot phi(f)+(1-alpha)cdot phi(f)] for $alphain (0,1)$
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    – FuncAna09
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  • $begingroup$
    But $phi( something )$ is a function. Is $ge$ to be understood pointwise?
    $endgroup$
    – gerw
    Jan 22 at 18:00










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    Sorry, the correct definition is $phi(f(x)).$ f is also a map.
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    – FuncAna09
    Jan 22 at 18:06
















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the problem is: Is the function $phi(f)=frac{sqrt{f}}{2}cdotlog f$ for $fin L^2(mathbb{R}_{>0})$ convex or concave.
My idee or presumption is, that the function $phi$ is concave, because we have the inequalitiy[sqrt{alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g}geq alphacdot sqrt{f}+(1-alpha)cdotsqrt{g}quadtext{for}~alphain(0,1).]










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the problem is: Is the function $phi(f)=frac{sqrt{f}}{2}cdotlog f$ for $fin L^2(mathbb{R}_{>0})$ convex or concave.
My idee or presumption is, that the function $phi$ is concave, because we have the inequalitiy[sqrt{alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g}geq alphacdot sqrt{f}+(1-alpha)cdotsqrt{g}quadtext{for}~alphain(0,1).]







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    How do you define convexity of $phi$?
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    – gerw
    Jan 22 at 15:20










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    We call a map convex, if [phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)leq alphacdot phi(f)+(1-alpha)cdot phi(f)] for $alphain (0,1)$
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    – FuncAna09
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  • $begingroup$
    But $phi( something )$ is a function. Is $ge$ to be understood pointwise?
    $endgroup$
    – gerw
    Jan 22 at 18:00










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, the correct definition is $phi(f(x)).$ f is also a map.
    $endgroup$
    – FuncAna09
    Jan 22 at 18:06




















  • $begingroup$
    How do you define convexity of $phi$?
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    – gerw
    Jan 22 at 15:20










  • $begingroup$
    We call a map convex, if [phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)leq alphacdot phi(f)+(1-alpha)cdot phi(f)] for $alphain (0,1)$
    $endgroup$
    – FuncAna09
    Jan 22 at 17:59












  • $begingroup$
    But $phi( something )$ is a function. Is $ge$ to be understood pointwise?
    $endgroup$
    – gerw
    Jan 22 at 18:00










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, the correct definition is $phi(f(x)).$ f is also a map.
    $endgroup$
    – FuncAna09
    Jan 22 at 18:06


















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How do you define convexity of $phi$?
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– gerw
Jan 22 at 15:20




$begingroup$
How do you define convexity of $phi$?
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– gerw
Jan 22 at 15:20












$begingroup$
We call a map convex, if [phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)leq alphacdot phi(f)+(1-alpha)cdot phi(f)] for $alphain (0,1)$
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– FuncAna09
Jan 22 at 17:59






$begingroup$
We call a map convex, if [phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)leq alphacdot phi(f)+(1-alpha)cdot phi(f)] for $alphain (0,1)$
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– FuncAna09
Jan 22 at 17:59














$begingroup$
But $phi( something )$ is a function. Is $ge$ to be understood pointwise?
$endgroup$
– gerw
Jan 22 at 18:00




$begingroup$
But $phi( something )$ is a function. Is $ge$ to be understood pointwise?
$endgroup$
– gerw
Jan 22 at 18:00












$begingroup$
Sorry, the correct definition is $phi(f(x)).$ f is also a map.
$endgroup$
– FuncAna09
Jan 22 at 18:06






$begingroup$
Sorry, the correct definition is $phi(f(x)).$ f is also a map.
$endgroup$
– FuncAna09
Jan 22 at 18:06












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Waht i have so far for $phi:mathbb{R}_{>0}tomathbb{R}$ with $fmapsto phi(f)$
$begin{align*}
-phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)&=-sqrt{alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g}log(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)\
&leq -(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})log(f^{alpha}g^{(1-alpha)})\
&=-left[(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})(alphalog(f)+(1-alpha)log(g))right]\
&=-[alpha^2sqrt{f}log(f)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{f}log(g)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{g}log(f)\
&+(1-alpha)^2sqrt{g}log(g)]\
&=...
end{align*}$






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    Waht i have so far for $phi:mathbb{R}_{>0}tomathbb{R}$ with $fmapsto phi(f)$
    $begin{align*}
    -phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)&=-sqrt{alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g}log(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)\
    &leq -(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})log(f^{alpha}g^{(1-alpha)})\
    &=-left[(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})(alphalog(f)+(1-alpha)log(g))right]\
    &=-[alpha^2sqrt{f}log(f)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{f}log(g)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{g}log(f)\
    &+(1-alpha)^2sqrt{g}log(g)]\
    &=...
    end{align*}$






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      Waht i have so far for $phi:mathbb{R}_{>0}tomathbb{R}$ with $fmapsto phi(f)$
      $begin{align*}
      -phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)&=-sqrt{alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g}log(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)\
      &leq -(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})log(f^{alpha}g^{(1-alpha)})\
      &=-left[(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})(alphalog(f)+(1-alpha)log(g))right]\
      &=-[alpha^2sqrt{f}log(f)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{f}log(g)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{g}log(f)\
      &+(1-alpha)^2sqrt{g}log(g)]\
      &=...
      end{align*}$






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        Waht i have so far for $phi:mathbb{R}_{>0}tomathbb{R}$ with $fmapsto phi(f)$
        $begin{align*}
        -phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)&=-sqrt{alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g}log(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)\
        &leq -(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})log(f^{alpha}g^{(1-alpha)})\
        &=-left[(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})(alphalog(f)+(1-alpha)log(g))right]\
        &=-[alpha^2sqrt{f}log(f)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{f}log(g)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{g}log(f)\
        &+(1-alpha)^2sqrt{g}log(g)]\
        &=...
        end{align*}$






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        Waht i have so far for $phi:mathbb{R}_{>0}tomathbb{R}$ with $fmapsto phi(f)$
        $begin{align*}
        -phi(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)&=-sqrt{alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g}log(alphacdot f+(1-alpha)cdot g)\
        &leq -(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})log(f^{alpha}g^{(1-alpha)})\
        &=-left[(alphasqrt f+(1-alpha) sqrt{g})(alphalog(f)+(1-alpha)log(g))right]\
        &=-[alpha^2sqrt{f}log(f)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{f}log(g)+alpha(1-alpha)sqrt{g}log(f)\
        &+(1-alpha)^2sqrt{g}log(g)]\
        &=...
        end{align*}$







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