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Consider the senquence of iid r.v. $(Y_k)_{kgeq1}$ such that $mathbb{P}(Y_k=1)=mathbb{P}(Y_k=-1)=frac{1}{2}$ and then consider the process $X=(X_k)_{ngeq1}$ such that $X_n=sum_{k=1}^nfrac{Y_k}{k}$. It's very easy to see that $X$ is a martingale w.r.t. the filtration that it generate itself. However i tried proving that it is almost surely convergent using the convergence theorem for martingales but i failed. Is this really almost surely convergent? if yes is possible to prove this using martingales theory or is better to use other techniques like Borel-Cantelli lemmas?










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    Consider the senquence of iid r.v. $(Y_k)_{kgeq1}$ such that $mathbb{P}(Y_k=1)=mathbb{P}(Y_k=-1)=frac{1}{2}$ and then consider the process $X=(X_k)_{ngeq1}$ such that $X_n=sum_{k=1}^nfrac{Y_k}{k}$. It's very easy to see that $X$ is a martingale w.r.t. the filtration that it generate itself. However i tried proving that it is almost surely convergent using the convergence theorem for martingales but i failed. Is this really almost surely convergent? if yes is possible to prove this using martingales theory or is better to use other techniques like Borel-Cantelli lemmas?










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      Consider the senquence of iid r.v. $(Y_k)_{kgeq1}$ such that $mathbb{P}(Y_k=1)=mathbb{P}(Y_k=-1)=frac{1}{2}$ and then consider the process $X=(X_k)_{ngeq1}$ such that $X_n=sum_{k=1}^nfrac{Y_k}{k}$. It's very easy to see that $X$ is a martingale w.r.t. the filtration that it generate itself. However i tried proving that it is almost surely convergent using the convergence theorem for martingales but i failed. Is this really almost surely convergent? if yes is possible to prove this using martingales theory or is better to use other techniques like Borel-Cantelli lemmas?










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      Consider the senquence of iid r.v. $(Y_k)_{kgeq1}$ such that $mathbb{P}(Y_k=1)=mathbb{P}(Y_k=-1)=frac{1}{2}$ and then consider the process $X=(X_k)_{ngeq1}$ such that $X_n=sum_{k=1}^nfrac{Y_k}{k}$. It's very easy to see that $X$ is a martingale w.r.t. the filtration that it generate itself. However i tried proving that it is almost surely convergent using the convergence theorem for martingales but i failed. Is this really almost surely convergent? if yes is possible to prove this using martingales theory or is better to use other techniques like Borel-Cantelli lemmas?







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          One can see that
          $$
          mathbb Eleft[X_n^2right]=sum_{k=1}^nfrac 1{k^2}mathbb Eleft[Y_k^2right]
          $$

          hence that the martingale $left(X_nright)_{ngeqslant 1}$ is bounded in $mathbb L^2$.






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            $EX_n^{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n} var (frac {Y_k} k)=sum_{k=1}^{n} frac 1 {k^{2}}$ which is bounded. It is well known that this implies uniform integrability and any uniformly integrable martingale converges almost surely.






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              Sorry I forgot to divide se term in the sum please check the edited question
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              @StabiloBoss I have answered the new version of your question also.
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            For a « martingale » proof, the convergence theorem for martingales states that if $(X_n)$ is a martingale wrt some filtration, and $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]$ is bounded, then $X_n$ converges pointwise.



            Now note that $mathbb{E}[|X_n|^2]$ is clearly bounded and is not lower than $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]^2$.






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              One can see that
              $$
              mathbb Eleft[X_n^2right]=sum_{k=1}^nfrac 1{k^2}mathbb Eleft[Y_k^2right]
              $$

              hence that the martingale $left(X_nright)_{ngeqslant 1}$ is bounded in $mathbb L^2$.






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                One can see that
                $$
                mathbb Eleft[X_n^2right]=sum_{k=1}^nfrac 1{k^2}mathbb Eleft[Y_k^2right]
                $$

                hence that the martingale $left(X_nright)_{ngeqslant 1}$ is bounded in $mathbb L^2$.






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                  One can see that
                  $$
                  mathbb Eleft[X_n^2right]=sum_{k=1}^nfrac 1{k^2}mathbb Eleft[Y_k^2right]
                  $$

                  hence that the martingale $left(X_nright)_{ngeqslant 1}$ is bounded in $mathbb L^2$.






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                  One can see that
                  $$
                  mathbb Eleft[X_n^2right]=sum_{k=1}^nfrac 1{k^2}mathbb Eleft[Y_k^2right]
                  $$

                  hence that the martingale $left(X_nright)_{ngeqslant 1}$ is bounded in $mathbb L^2$.







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                      $EX_n^{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n} var (frac {Y_k} k)=sum_{k=1}^{n} frac 1 {k^{2}}$ which is bounded. It is well known that this implies uniform integrability and any uniformly integrable martingale converges almost surely.






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                        Sorry I forgot to divide se term in the sum please check the edited question
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                        @StabiloBoss I have answered the new version of your question also.
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                      $EX_n^{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n} var (frac {Y_k} k)=sum_{k=1}^{n} frac 1 {k^{2}}$ which is bounded. It is well known that this implies uniform integrability and any uniformly integrable martingale converges almost surely.






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                        Sorry I forgot to divide se term in the sum please check the edited question
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                        – StabiloBoss
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                        @StabiloBoss I have answered the new version of your question also.
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                        – Kavi Rama Murthy
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                      $EX_n^{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n} var (frac {Y_k} k)=sum_{k=1}^{n} frac 1 {k^{2}}$ which is bounded. It is well known that this implies uniform integrability and any uniformly integrable martingale converges almost surely.






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                      $EX_n^{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n} var (frac {Y_k} k)=sum_{k=1}^{n} frac 1 {k^{2}}$ which is bounded. It is well known that this implies uniform integrability and any uniformly integrable martingale converges almost surely.







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                      • $begingroup$
                        Sorry I forgot to divide se term in the sum please check the edited question
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                        – StabiloBoss
                        Jan 7 at 12:22










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                        @StabiloBoss I have answered the new version of your question also.
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                        – Kavi Rama Murthy
                        Jan 7 at 12:28


















                      • $begingroup$
                        Sorry I forgot to divide se term in the sum please check the edited question
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                        – StabiloBoss
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                      • $begingroup$
                        @StabiloBoss I have answered the new version of your question also.
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                        – Kavi Rama Murthy
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                      $begingroup$
                      Sorry I forgot to divide se term in the sum please check the edited question
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                      – StabiloBoss
                      Jan 7 at 12:22




                      $begingroup$
                      Sorry I forgot to divide se term in the sum please check the edited question
                      $endgroup$
                      – StabiloBoss
                      Jan 7 at 12:22












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                      @StabiloBoss I have answered the new version of your question also.
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                      – Kavi Rama Murthy
                      Jan 7 at 12:28




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                      @StabiloBoss I have answered the new version of your question also.
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                      For a « martingale » proof, the convergence theorem for martingales states that if $(X_n)$ is a martingale wrt some filtration, and $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]$ is bounded, then $X_n$ converges pointwise.



                      Now note that $mathbb{E}[|X_n|^2]$ is clearly bounded and is not lower than $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]^2$.






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                        For a « martingale » proof, the convergence theorem for martingales states that if $(X_n)$ is a martingale wrt some filtration, and $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]$ is bounded, then $X_n$ converges pointwise.



                        Now note that $mathbb{E}[|X_n|^2]$ is clearly bounded and is not lower than $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]^2$.






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                          For a « martingale » proof, the convergence theorem for martingales states that if $(X_n)$ is a martingale wrt some filtration, and $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]$ is bounded, then $X_n$ converges pointwise.



                          Now note that $mathbb{E}[|X_n|^2]$ is clearly bounded and is not lower than $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]^2$.






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                          For a « martingale » proof, the convergence theorem for martingales states that if $(X_n)$ is a martingale wrt some filtration, and $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]$ is bounded, then $X_n$ converges pointwise.



                          Now note that $mathbb{E}[|X_n|^2]$ is clearly bounded and is not lower than $mathbb{E}[|X_n|]^2$.







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